DEC 08 - Barely into toddlerhood and already at our tit's end

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Tit's end...had to be done.

Hope this works!

AND I spent Sunday with a friend who's pregnant and yesterday with another friend who is - all with rashy Izz. It just didn't cross my mind that it might effect a pregnant person!

Can't remember whether they were on the palms of DS's hands but they were really minor on his hands feet and bum compared to his mouth. I am sure it was that as I then got it, it was a weird bug as one day my mouth would be really sore, the next suddenly my hands had flared up and were ridiculously itchy, the next I couldn't walk because it was on my feet! So maybe it could be that, as symptoms seemed a bit variable.
Anyway I seriously doubt it is measles! I hope your nannyshare mum calms down soon! Can understand her worrying but sure you are right that it will be something minor.

Yes, I think it will be too. Thanks SL - I'm pregnant too and really not that worried about it as doctor said they are being over cautious and not to worry myself.

eeek Beans. I'm sure it's nothing. Hope you get to the bottom of it.

Spoke to Mum thismorning and she mentioned I was saying sentences at 15 months
ds still has a grand total of one word which consists of variations of Dadda.
has anyone else got little or no words going on? He understahnds a lot of what I say but the grunts and groans in reply are getting old....

Good luck Beans, hope it's nothing serious. Babies do get inexplicable rashes from time to time, though I can see why they're being extra cautious.

Rubena: DS2 only uses as many words as he needs to get what he wants! At the moment it's 'dis' which he repeats until you light on the right thing. I try scaffolding a bit, i.e. repeating what I want him to say but he'll get to it in his own good time . You could try refusing his requests until he tries saying the right word, but at this tantrummy stage possibly not the best approach!

Oooh, lots of sicky babies still. Hope the rash turns out to be nothing serious, Beans. And hope the antibiotics work for Mr T. And poor Lu, Trace, I do hope they get to the bottom of it this time.

It's pouring here and I have got to get the bus into Oxford (one hour) to hand DD over to DP after court, then get the train into London for this drinks thing. (Thanks for the offers of calls Unfortunately I do have to talk to people so if I am on my phone all night they will think I am weird). I just don't feel like it. I'm tired from the pregnancy, and also feeling breathless (it's an increase in the progesterone in your body, apparently) and very thirsty (I am keeping my eye on this). The house renovation is turning into an bottomless pit, moneywise, and I have been rubbish at working these last few days. Sorry, I am just having a bit of a whinge, forgive me

DD is still not eating much but chickpeas went down well, as did regular peas. She likes little things she can hold in her fingers. What a fusspot. She can't live on blueberries and raisins though I think she would if she could (along with lashings of formula).

yeah Mum said not to respond to his grunts but if i ignore him completely he just squeals and screams and runs around waving his arms in the air -kind of like a pissed off version of the happy running around when his milk is coming

probably shouldn't be too worried. Mil said dh said nothing at all until one day when he finished his rice pudding he pushed the bowl and said "more please" and he was quite old at that point! he is a little shy like his daddy too

Plus I guess look at me now - mt brother and I both don't know when to shut up - no wonder we talked early

Rubes, I really think the words will come. As long as you keep talking to him, one day he will surprise you. Girls speak earlier than boys, generally, according to various studies.

My DD said 'Nanny' across the table to my Mum on Sunday. I had to laugh. She has never said Mummy or anything like it. It's a bit of a cheek, in my view

Well he's obviously communicating - and as you know non-verbal comminication comes first and is pretty vital! Was trying to find a no-nonsense definition of scaffolding and boy, there's a lot of waffle about child language and learning on the internet. Basically (and again you may well know this) it's something we tend to do automatically as mothers to encourage language development. You get to your child's level and build a temporary scaffold to encourage them to get to the next level. E.g. if they say 'dadda' you say ' where's daddy?' or 'you want daddy?'. Then when they say 'want dadda' you say 'you want to see daddy? you want to go to daddy?'. So you provide just enough support to get them to the right level by extending sentences or adding new words or correcting words and so on. It is instinctive but also worth thinking about if you're busy and don't always respond verbally to requests (I know I'm guilty of bunging stuff to DS2 en route and not getting down and interacting with him properly). Reading books and nursery rhymes are also great because the repetition provides a helpful structure for learning.

Sorry to be a bore but I studied language development a few years back and found it fascinating!

Points and grunts only here. Maybe a bab-bye for goodbye but that's pushing it (never sure that it's not just coincidence).
To be honest most of the babies his age that I've seen recently don't say a lot either so I'm not worried.
He does some very good animal noises though.

lady - cross posted. thats funny the nanny thing! DS said Mum once but that was it - it's always dadadadada.

I had major thirst in the first trimester - it has dropped off a lot now.
I also get the breathless thing and can't sleep on my back anymore or I feel like I can't breathe!

I was just whining about walking down to the Health visitor in the drizzle but thinking about what you have to do on the bus etc I will get my act together!
I want to ask her about this afternoon screaming thing and I might ask about the talking too

DS2 doesn't really speak. He says "mamma", "dadda", "deddie" and "what's that". He will occasionally say "doggy" if we are at Mums or we see one in the street.

Beans, hope DD is ok and that the scan goes well.

LadyT I hope tonight goes well for you.

I am having a crazy moment and thinking I would like to do a triathlon in the summer. I am hoping the training will take my mind of wanting to be pregnant, I'll lose weight quicker and once I have done it, it will be time to start trying to a baby. But I am quite worried about the wetsuit part of it. I will not look good in a wetsuit!!

Just watching DH and DS1 playing. They are racing some of DS1's cars. It's so cute.

Thanks Effie, i will try that method a bit more consciously. I didn't really think about it like that before.

Summer - are the animal noises intentional? Does he know what noise a pig makes you mean and can go oink oink?

We've got no proper words yet, she has a fairly general "de-duh" that seems to mean everything.

Though there is exciting news about lovely baby M (DD's godmother's little girl who had the heart problems), she's just started saying 2 word sentences and apparently the first ones were "read book" and "goats cheese"

Effie that sounds really interesting, I basically guess what she might be on about and so she'll say "de-duh" and I say "Oh you want to have another bit of apple?" and if she looks cheery, assume that was right!

Oh no he's not that clever
He will answer what noise do snakes make with a hiss but that's because I cheat and say SSSSSSSnake, and he copies it.
but in general I have to say "what noise do Xes make" and then make the noise, then he copies

Summer!

Lady, I messaged dh about your plumbing stuff and he replied with a [shocked blackberry emoticon]! He said he would be happy to have a look and tell you what he thinks and may even be able to do it mates rates but would have to see it to know what it actually involves of course as my description was hardly in proper blokey plumber speak perhaps we should sort out a pub lunch sooner rather than later!
well ds has been put down for his nap and has been chatting squealing and grunting to himself for about 30 mins now. he has also cycled through every program on his sleep sheep as I can hear him on the monitor. I am wondering if he doesn't need 2 naps a day anymore and perhaps I should drop the morning one as he slept for 1.5 hours at 10am?

Rubes, that is really kind. I will speak to DP later on and let's get a date in the diary. If he could just cast his eye over it, it would be so much appreciated. It would be nice to see you both and if anything it will certainly put the mockers on you feeling wistful about a renovation job I am at the end of my tether.

I'm not known for having a long tether, but still...

Right, off to tart myself up and think about getting this bus...

Have a fun time at your drinks LadyT. I know you aren't in the mood but you might get into it once you are there. Sorry to hear you are breathless and thirsty. At least your not nauseated - were you last time?

Beans - I hope the scan goes well. And the rash tests. I think Whizz would be pretty ill if it were measles so hopefully that is v unlikely.

Effie - yay for the sleep through. I hope it continues.

Rubes - I have never, ever seen a 14 month old who could speak in sentences so I wouldn't worry. You were clearly a child prodigy! DD2's red book suggests that is not expected until they are two. DD2 says "mama", "dada", "duck", "teddy" and "no" (that last one is the clearest and most often repeated). Plus a few animal noises. But most of the time she just shouts "nene" in various volumes and intonations.

We need a new thread title people. I am the least creative person in the world so I will lurk until someone more talented siezes the moment.

Hi all
One quick one, then I'm going to head off as am totally wiped out after spending whole afternoon at the hospital!
Basically, DD has ezcema round her mouth, on her hands and up her arms. She has bad nappy rash. She has a viral cough. She is teething really badly and has an ulcer. And they say things come in threes, my arse! It took bloody hours - thank GOD for DH working nearby, who came and took over so I could get my scan done. Which was fine! All well with the newbie. Just sad that DH couldn't be there as well. But never mind. Hurrah for new teeny tiny. And Whizzer, who was so well behaved and didn't cry at all. She is a little diamond and I love her so much!

She only says 'daddy' and has said 'doggy' once. oh and says 'deeetie' for "sheepie" her beloved blanket thing!

I can't think of a new thread title = sorry - too bloody knackered!

Much love to you all.
xxxx

Hi!
ladyT hope you survive the evening. Poor you having to put an enthusiastic smile on when you'd rather stay home. Hope it's more enjoyable than you're expecting.
Kayz I'm impressed that you're even thinking of doing a triathlon. I'm such a sloth
Beans how has today gone?
re all the speaking...P is still limited to "mmmmmmmm" and "aaaaah". She obeys no commands and seems to understand nothing I read something today that said at 15 months (which she is clearly miles off ) they can usually point at people/ objects when asked eg "where is daddy/ dolly?". Not a chance round here. Oh well. Next week I'm joining a group called 'smalltalk' which is for 12-24 month olds and it encourages verbal stuff through play, bubble blowing etc. Sounds good and it's run by the children's centre so it's free too
I took L to the gp yesterday and she's going to have a coeliac screen. It'll be good to rule out if it's not that, but if it is then at least we can work with it.
Can't believe we need a new thread. We've made lots of "ooh that'll have to be in the next thread title" comments, but I can't remember any of them!

Hope this will suffice

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