May '09 - We've had our first tooth!!

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Here we are, in honour of baby O and the first tooth through.

Momino DS1 was born on the 98th centile and now at 3 is on the 9th, so one extreme to the other. DS2 was born on the 50th, has fallen to the 25th and will fall again I think.

All the things you describe about being alert, happy etc are a much better indicator.

Momino Also a quick one to reassure you that you're dong a brilliant job. You feed on demand and clearly H is only taking what she needs. I'm sure it's been said before, but the centile at birth doesn't reflect what size your lo will be when older. If H wasn't happy with the amount of milk she gets she'd feed more or wouldn't be happy and reaching the milestones you're talking about. Chin up. You're doing brilliantly

Oh and ladyH You're already planning no3. Brave woman! I'm personally so happy I have a nice big gap between n2 and n3. I couldn't have coped with the SPD if I had a toddler to care for.

Right, I've been experimenting with my bottle making up techniques and I'm sure you're all dying to know what I've decided! LOL.

I've been doing a mix of:

1. Mixing cooled boiled water and freshly boiled water, immediately adding the powder, allowing to cool and then feeding.
2. Powder into just boiled water and then into fridge to cool until needed (anticipating feed within an hour)

I was a bit scared by all the stats and stuff on the other thread and with R's nappies being really watery, exploisive ones in the middle of the night etc, I thought I'd try the guideline method, and yes it is an absolute faff.

However, its as though R has sensed a change in the feeds (although of course it is the same water from the same place and the same powder). His nappies are heaps better, and he has finished his last few bottles completely when before he was leaving as much as 3oz of a 7oz feed.

Now I am not saying this is the best way for everyone. Far from it. I am going to continue with adding powder to cooled boiled water when we are out, or use the cartons, but it does seem to have had an impact on R anyways. I wonder if it will get him through the night again?

Thanks to all who replied about this.

belgian I can't believe it myself sometimes that I can even contemplate another. But I just don't feel "done" yet, if that makes any sense. And although there is a slight delay till March, I am 40 next year. Time is not on my side!

I've been thinking about number 3 but we'll be waiting at least 2 years I think. I'll be 36 with a history of fertility problems nd miscarriages so who knows? We'll be happy with 2 but 3 seems finished for us.

Gulp.

oh, thank you all for your support/advice . it is so reassuring to hear similar circumstances about dropping centiles. chin firmly back in place.

FF sounds so complicated, i can't remember how i mixed it for dd2 but think i made it with boiled water then added cooled boiled water to bring it down to room temp.

ladyH, can't believe thinking about dc3 but completely understand. we didn't have our 1st till i was 35 and had Harper just before turning 40 so 20 mos between each of the 3. i wish i could have had a bigger gap but can't help i started 'late'e. and there are many good things about them being close in age. no.3 has actually been an easier transition than 2 .

momimo thats good to know about 2 into 3! And glad you are feeling better about H's centile now.

llare I also have a history of mc (2 before DS1 and three inbetween DS1 and DS2) so part of me did think can I go through all the heart ache, misery, knickerchecking and weeing on sticks again. However now R is here, it was all so worth it, that not doing it again hasn't crossed my mind.

ladyH Glad to hear that changing the way you make up your ff has made such a big difference. Funny isn't it, it's still the same water, boiled and put in sterilised containers, so you wouldn't think it would make that much difference.

All this talk about ff, makes me so happy that bf has always been a success with me. I'd get too confused with remembering what I've done when and how many scoops I've counted etc... I get confused enough as it is when filling up the steriliser for my breastpump. It's cold water as no microwave and I keep losing track of how many liters of water I'm at.

transition from 2 to 3 I've heard from more people that had a smaller gap than me that they found it easier than from 1 to 2. I personally found it harder, so I'm wondering whether it's our largish gap that has been the cause.

Personally I still haven't ruled out no4. I'm even starting to get broody moments . I just love having C and can't imagine never being able to have close baby cuddles again. If only I didn't have to go through pregnancy again I'd do it again tomorrow.

Hello ladies, I've been reading but not had chance to post. I've had quite a miserable week as I developed mastitis It hurt, but my Hv really good and got me some antibiotics from the Dr and it's getting better.

Afraid my memory is too shocking to name check! Welcome back Dandy - I wondered how you were.

Re dc3, I wish I was allowed another, not yet 2011 is plenty early enough for me, but dh says no!

Running glad the heart scan went well.

Sausage hope your mri goes well.

I decided to let ds1 put pants on instead of a nappy and he duly peed (thankfully in a cardboard box!!) so I got him to sit on the potty - now he won't get off it or have his nappy put back on! I know it won't last long but at least it's the 1st step.

Fi, Sausage I was thinking about starting South-West mums meet up thing on fb when I have the time. Otherwise Fi will have disappeared to Canada before we get ourselves sorted!!

We're off on holiday on Sat so I have to do the packing tomorrow (under orders from dh and see what space we have in the car before we leave! I know it's not all going to fit in, but he reckons it will, but won't be around to help. Thankfully mum has said she'll help out.

Got to dash ds1 has not peed on the floor and ds 2 is crying!

belgian, tbh I'm broody as well! but as you know, DH has had the snip so no more. i think my body deserves a rest anyway from having 3 children in 3.5 years. i can still brood though . and cuddle others' newborns.

off out tonight to a Jamie Oliver party so hope everyone has a good evening and thanks again MN buddies (albeit holographs )for your help earlier. i feel much more relaxed!

Have a good evening MOMI and remember, H is thriving and happy .

Hi DAIZY. Hope you recover from mastitis quickly.
DD came home from nursery with a sticker saying ' I sat on the potty'. She didn't do anything, but it's a start. I was sooo pleased as she has had no interest in potty training at all that I was thinking I might have to give it a go soon (she's 2.9).

LADYH based on your earlier comment, I decided today to give it a go putting powder in a small amount of boiling water, mixing, then immediately adding cooled boiled water so it was the right temperature. The formula seem to mix much better and I await poo outcome . Having said that, he's not been on top form today after last night's sickness so hasn't had a great deal (only 3 instead of the usual 5 bottles, but thankfully no more sickness). The formula I use they don't do it in carton pre-made form.

SES hope tonight goes well.

DANDY quite amusing how childbirth makes you very open about all and sundry. Thankfully I do stop short of saying 'do you want to see it'

Would love a dc3 but dh only wanted 1 so we had 2 as a compromise. Think it would be a bit unfair to go back on my word. And not sure if my bits could take it. And I'm old. And I'm just about to venture onto Ebay for the first time to sell my maternity wear.

momimo have a nice eve. I went to a Jamie party a few weeks ago. Let us know if you make any purchases!

daizy sorry to hear you have mastitis. Hope it clears up quickly.

reggiee know what you mean about being open about everything following childbirth. The ladies in my ante natal group from DS1 were sharing lots within days of knowing each other.Its quite a bonding experience and something only women who have given birth can do! LOL at do you want to see it? i've not even looked at my own yet!!

Evening all a quick drive-by post while I try to settle a in her cot.

Momi - you've got some good advice there. Try not to worry as the dr said to me yesterday if h is happy and hitting milestones and has lots of wet n pooey nappies you're doing the right thing. Have fun tonight x x

muddled - hope you recover quickly

lol at the tmi. Found myself discussing episiotomies today with a mum I've only met twice!

Waves at everyone else x x

Whoops. Am slightly sozzled on red wine, and accidently burned the tea. Never mind. Bah, who needs food anyway !

Hi all,

momino glad you've got some reassurance here - you are of course doing brilliantly! I have lovely health visitors who always do a genuinely surprised face when I say I'm still bf (at 6 weeks, at 12 weeks, etc etc) and it's so encouraging. You are doing a fab job!

Afraid I think it's time for a

Evening all

Having a glass of very chiiled Rose. My mum's gone home, I survived the DDs having friends over, S grizzling (think teeth are imminent), invasion of DDs friends with extra kids etc.

Momi sorry I missed being able to reassure you, although you may not have appreciated hearing 'you go girl, you have nothing to worry about' from someone who has a HUGE baby. But, I still get concerned about S as she takes tiny feeds, I must have very rich milk or summat? Anyway, having seen the cherub that is H, she is bright as a button, strong, alert and, yes, petite, but I would say you are petite too, oh twiglet momi.

Those thinking about another - if I could guarantee no SPD, I would have another. I can't bear the thought of never having a newborn again. And I didn't want more than 1 for a long time! I'm relishing every second of S, she's fabulous.

jennster I ate the Kit-Kat. I'm sorry. I was exhausted, weak and in need of sugary comfort.

Definitely not broody here! I found the transition from 2 to 3 much harder (hence my PND or maybe because of my PND).

I can look at newborns with adoring eyes, but don't want one of my own. At playgroup today, there was a woman with 3 children- aged 2 months, 14 months and 2.6 - now that is brave (or foolish!).

Grumpy I can't believe you ate the kit-kat! I know the real reason why everyone is anti Nestle, but I went out with the UK Marketing twat Director of Nestle a few years ago, and ever since I have smugly boycotted Nestle. Ok, I think I may have had the odd SMALL (never a GIANT) kit kat, but still. Never been the same since you can't slice open the tinfoil with a fingernail. Ho hum.

Am at my parents. They have both fallen asleep in front of the telly. I can't find any wine. Called dp and he is at the f##cking pub AGAIN (he promised not to until after the wedding because a) I know he will smoke and b) he's getting fat. He said he was going to be in last night at 8.30pm after working all day in Derby, so I made (yes MADE!) a swanky meal, laid the table all lovely, got candles ready etc. He got in at 1030. Said he had to go to the office when he got back. Ha. He'd been drinking! Sheesh. Is this the kind of life I have to look forward to for the next 50 odd years?

Still. He is taking next Thursday off ("working from home") so I can go into uni in London and meet my tutors in the morning. Have also arranged to go into work and have lunch with the girlies and catch up and gad about a bit. Sod it, I might even stop for a drink on the way home. Am I being childish? Yes, but lets see how he likes it. Ha.

AND ANOTHER THING. We haven't done the relations thingy yet either..... although dp TRIED the other night. At 3am!!!! We were at my parents, Mum was in the room next door in with M, said us two could have a good nights sleep. Fat bloody chance with Mr Roaming Hands. Told him to get knotted. Couldn't BELIEVE a chance of a good night's kip just flew by because he got a f#cking stiffy in the middle of the night.

Rant over. Men are twats sometimes.

Ahem. Sorry about that

..... that last one was a JOKE by the way.

saus

Have some wine. It's cheap crap but I'm sure you won't mind.

DH has received the pet passport, he's coming here, he's coming here!

Must diet, shave legs, pluck eyebrows etc, (shades of saus's DP here - I think I may be getting fat).

Blardy hell, Dandy, I had no idea about your ovarian cancer. Did I miss you talking about that? Can't talk now but wanted to send you those unmumsnetting hugs that we definitely don't do here. I don't know if you want them, but if you don't please give yourself a pat on the back.

Oh, and sausage, your post made me snort with laughter.

dandy I also missed the ovarian cancer. Sounds like you came through it and are doing well, with having babies and all that.

I'm considering trying to find some sort of excersise so my muscles are stronger and hopefully more supportive so my pelvis might be a little stronger and able to cope with another pregnancy. Hmm... DH and I have said we'll see how I feel by May 10. The broodiness is creeping up on my though. My head tells me not to put my body through the whole SPD thing again, but...

grumpy Hurrah, mum gone and DH on the way. Life is on the up . Have a glass of wine on me.

momi Hope you had a lovely jamie oliver party.

, hi all.
just had 3 glassesof wine at the Jamie Olivery which made me a bit tipsy and i bought very useful things. like a mezzaluna for my DH for Christmas, or anniversary. and I promised the hostess I'd become a rep. ahh, it was messy.

what's worse was that one of the women brought an 8wk old baby who was gorgeously chubby so i got broody again. ah, I wish I were 10 years younger and could have at least 5 more. i'm just going to cuddle H as much as possible in this baby stage. in fact, I can't wait till she wakes up tonight so i can cuddle her .

grumpy, am happy for youthat dh and pup arriving soon. and well done for putting up with your mum but you don't have to worry about her now.

saus, who was the marketing director? i worked for nestle rowntree for 7 yrs was it someone from York? most of the marketing people I knew were knobs so understand your reason for boycotting.

daizy, hope your mastitis clears quickly and you feel better soon.

reggiee, at your dd on the potty. bless.

dandy, i do remember you talking about it when we were still preg. must have been such a tough time. you're so wise about being grateful for having 2 happy, healthy DCs.

belgian, another?? can't believe we're talking about subsequent children already but I totally understand after seeing the 8wk old baby tonight.

i really should go to sleep eh?

momimo LOL at your tipsiness!! Hows your head this morning?

dandy gosh had no idea about your ovarian cancer but I remember your birth stories. Those days waiting to hear about your right cyst must have been unbearable. Much respect to you for getting through that, having two difficult births and retaining your wicked sense of hunour.No one but you can make the decision what to do. I know what you mean about the civilisee 4 year age gap. I think it has made life with a new baby considerably less stressful here too. Not sure if I have found you on FB yet either?