May '09 - We've had our first tooth!!

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Here we are, in honour of baby O and the first tooth through.

grumpy does all the preparation means you and your DH will be having (ahem) relations when he arrives??? Can't wait for that post!

Morning everyone,

It's another lovely day here today. I can't believe summer has been carrying on until well into September, nearly October.

momino Your post of last night made me laugh. Sounds like you had a great time. I have no idea what the thing is you bought for your DH tough.

It's macmillan coffee morning here in the Village. I'll got later on when C wakes from her nap. I can't believe how easily she transfered to her cot this morning.

I'm going to put another shedload of stuff on eBay today. I really really need money. My mat pay is going to take a nose dive sometime soon and I've been buying to many slings . They're just all so beautiful. I think I'm an addict.

I have just realised that I still haven't heard from the CHB. I contacted them 2 weeks ago and back then they said that as they had requested extra info it could take 16 weeks from then, but I'm pretty sure the 16 weeks are over now. Although I'm not entirely sure, because I sent the application off when C was a few weeks old.

Oh I also got a call from m&p. I feel so stupid now. Apparently there was a newborn insert thingy that was still in there. I have now removed it and C's got plenty of space again. I'm not sure if it'll be enough until she's 1, but definitely a good few months. I'll see how it goes now. It did make me a bit about me complaining to them.

morning everyone

sorry i didn't get back on yesterday.. this week has been manic in RL and it's all sorta flown by in a blur.

I'm going to try and do a catch up post before G wakes up for a feed (currently fast asleep on her baby gym mat, bless her awww).

momino Sorry didn't get on to reassure you about H, as everyone has said you're doing a fantastic job and don't doubt the norks... if H wanted more i'm sure she'd yell pretty quick! G has got to the stage that she won't take boob just for the sake of it... so if she's full she'll object very strongly & grumpily at me offering her more . They know what they want and when and all we can do is follow that right?

sausage yes jessops for the baby passport pics. They did a cracking shot of G.. so nice DH has nabbed one for his wallet! They have a padded mat thingy for the floor with a flat pale top that you lie them on and they take the photo from above iyswim? Anyway she looks scrummy DS was very good too although he looks a bit grumpy in his photo . You get 6 photos for £7.00 and they're guaranteed so if your application gets sent back because they don't like the photo they'll do them again for free. The one for updating my driving license to a photo one looks awful! I had make up and everything on and I still look shattered. Oh well. LOL (sorry ) at your DH. Mine had a similar wondering hands night on monday this week... but we had no condoms in the house so his options for relief were a bit err limited .

grumpy Well done on surviving your mum and glad to hear DH etc coming over now your pet passport all sorted. How are the beautifications going?!

dandy OMG what an awful thing to have gone through in your 20's. You must feel blessed that it was found and sorted with no recurrences. Although I expect you'll always worry about the what if's even now. It's an awful thing to go through at any age but when you were so young it must have been extra specially worrying at the time. Ikwym about the deliberations about whether to go for #3. Many of the reasons you mention I have said myself and i'm still wondering do we/don't we. DH is 46 and i'm 39 with DS 3.5 and G 4months. We have to get on with it fast if we do go for it as I don't want to be pregnant well into my 40's and having to have 3rd CS etc.

reggie how's B? no more throwing up sessions I hope.

pula Hope your smear isn't too uncomfortable. The one I had after having DS was not very comfortable but I just counted to 10 while trying to relax. Oh boy I was glad when it was over.

uhoh G woken up... better go change her bum, feed her and then off to get ds from pre school.

Grumpy thanks for the wine. It helped. Was is Blue Nun? Or a nice drop of Asti? Am going for serious beautifications (as Fi says) the day before my wedding. Blimey, that poor ladygarden area. msot unruly. I feel for the poor lady that has to do it.

Dp is ignoring me today as I had a go at him last night. Pah. Men are sooooo poo.

FiByTheSea thanks for the tip re Jessops - will be heading there tomorrow morning. Good description of how they take the pic, I did wonder!

Belgian - what's the CHB?

Momino (was it you, last page?!) - nah, it was Nestle Croydon. Aaaargh makes me angry just thinking about him. Won't go into the story, but lets say he dumped me for someone we BOTH met at a BBQ at his friends house. AND she was ugly. Ugh. (his friend didn't know I existed, let alone was coming, so it was actually a set up. It was a most uncomfortable afternoon and evening. So I glugged lots of wine and hit their dog.) (It was sniffing my, erm, crotch area, as I'd spilled some chocolate on my lap (it was one of those horrid little yappy things that jump on your lap) - I pushed it away, so it bit me, so I (knee jerk reaction) hit it's nose (which I do to any dog, sorry). oooooh that didn't go down too well. Bloody thing. Ugh. When we sat down to eat, I think it was about an hour until anyone spoke to me - they plain ignored me. Anyway, the funny thing is that I know someone else who worked for Nestle at the time, and he spread it around what a loser that twat was.

Bitter? Nah. He bought me a Tiffany necklace, which I flogged and then paid off my credit card. Hahahaaaaaa.

Right. Work. Have a lovely day everyone.

Memememe post ahead (again). Sorry but I am . Just been to GP with suspected UTI. She had a go at me for BFing, as it restricted antibiotic options. FFS. She then asked if I had started weaning yet . What a muppet.

sausage i agree.. sounds like a right twat but as you say handy to have been given the necklace :-)

tummum that's dreadful doc behavior! i'd have thought of all people they'd be pro bf!

tummum @ your GP. I would be seriously angry too . You could go and complain and wave the WHO guidelines in her face. I had a GP who told me to stop bf when dd1 got teeth. She was only 5m when she got her 1st tooth, because breastmilk apparently rots teeth. I sent my scary mw to him who at the time was also one of the lead BF mws He learnt his lesson never to say anything that stupid again.

sausagen sounds like you're better off without the nestle guy after all. I would love to boycot nestle, but find it sooooo difficult. On our hols the ice cream by the pool was Nestle, I couldn't really tell the dcs not to have any. I'm trying my hardest, but they make too much chocolaty stuff and are so hard to avoid

With CHB I meant child benefit. I might have used the wrong abbreviation

tummum- I am also . My GPs are all pro-BF and they never even questioned me BF when on ADs or ABs.

I had a proud mummy moment this morning. I was with DD in her classroom, and DD was doing some cutting out and another girl said she couldn't do it so needed the teacher's help. The teacher said well done to DD and said that DD has been good at doing other things too and called her a "shining light" .

I've been to 2 macmillan coffee mornings today- at school and then at playgroup. nice to have a sit down now though as its been non stop.

afternoon all. strangely, i slept well despite the wine which usually wakes me at 4am. although i was desperate for a latenight cuddle, Harper decided to sleep till 645. just as good since alcohol and cosleeping don't mix.

ladyhelen, surprisingly my head is ok, lol.

belgian, a mezzaluna is a semicircular 2-handled knife that chops herbs. btw so glad you got the m&P thing sorted but it obviously wasn't clear so maybe they need to rewrite instructions or packaging to be a bit clearer. thank goodness you can still use it.

sausage, sorry he was a tw_t. but found the dog part of the story slightly funny and brilliant about the necklace .

tummum, i don't understand your GP either, what mixed messages. I hope you're feeling better soon.

Fi, thanks for the reassurance and lovely about G's passport photos. how exciting!

pula, about your DD!

Hi! Am sittingin Costa catching up via my phone with a sleeping O.

Tummum - unbelievable !!!! you should definitely complain

Momino - glad you had a good night. Just to add that Harper is fine and when I saw her a week ago I was really impressed with how strong she is. It really won't be long before she's sitting

Grumpy - phew! She's gone!!

more DC - I'd love loads but a) don't know how people cope with more than one and b) will be restricted by my age as I'm 36. Am I the oldest first time mum on here? DH and I did have the chat last week though and we'll probably start ttc next May.

teeth - as O's tooth comes through more and more, I can feel it more when feeding. It's now about a third fully through and twice I've actually shrieked when a corner has caught me. Those of you with experience of BF a little one with teeth, any advice or just a matter of put up with it if I want to continue BF?

Last night sort of went well. DH and O had a good time except when O woke and wouldn't stop screaming about 15mins before I got home. He was hungry bless him but DH didn't think to try the last lot of EBM!
I was greeted at my meeting by someone who said I looked blooming, another that asked whether I'd had the baby and another who was insistent this was my second (think he knew I was pg first time round but not about mc). Felt like going home before the meeting started!
What was good though was that I saw my boss and she said she was relieved when I said I'd be in touch to discuss my return in the new year and that my stores had been missing me She doesn't know yet that I'm going to ask for 3 days a week...!

Right, sorry that's a mega post! Thank you if you're still reading!!

ses I bf DS who had a full set of teeth. IME he bit me for a few days, but not hard, then stopped. I think they subscribe to the "don't bite the nipple that feeds you" school.

Ses- I've not really had trouble with biters- I think if it hurts and you yell and pull them off, they will soon learn not to. I think DS1 did it a bit when he was teething and wanted to bite down on something.

Well, I'm back from my smear- not the most enjoyable experience (very painful) but over with very quickly. The nurse said "it still looks a bit tender in there- do you know how many stitches you had?". I said "those stitches are from 5 years ago as the last 2 were planned sections" and she said "and you went on to have more children?!". I am curious in a way to know what everything is like down there as i had an episiotomy, an internal tear and an external tear. Maybe that's why relations are still uncomfortable .

Thanks Llare & Pula . Fingers crossed he learns quickly!

We had a good afternoon. Popped into town and got DS's passport photos done. I know someone else was asking about this. We went to Jessops who were v good. Got 2 lots so he can have a British passport and an Irish passport. We're hoping to take him over to Ireland at the end of October for DH's granny's 95th birthday!

When we got home, our neighbour opposite was just getting home with her 3DC. She was kind enough to buy O a little outfit when he was born and I said I'd pop over from time to time and never have so I popped in then. She has DS 5.9yrs, DD1 4.4yrs, DD2 2.10yrs. She gave us a packet of biscuits as she said it is tradition for them to give something sweet when a new baby visits for the first time She said they are sikhs and will have us over for a full indian meal sometime

I'm halfway through catching up, so if this has been corrected, then I apologise, I just needed to type this post before I loose the computer.

Formula making up Think it was Sausage that said WHO guidelines had a post script to the best way of making up formula as and when, as boiling the water and adding the powder to the cold water. THIS IS NOT CORRECT. Formula powder is not sterile so must always be added to water above the temperature of 70'C. You can make up a feed in advance, but only if you cool very very quickly and store in the coldest part of the fridge and use within 24 hours. This is the second best way of making up formula.

ses you're not the oldest 1st time mum.. i was 36 when i had ds.. 39 with G. 2 passports too lucky O!

G got her 2nd lot of jabs this pm. she screamed the place down at the time and made the nurse feel really bad about giving them as she was giggling chattering and smiling beautifully to her before the needles went in! but so far since then she's ok..

I find catching up hard these days jennster and i have to admit with all the advice on how we should be making up bottles i'm delighted to be able to skip it this time and just bf

Quick post before H wakes up.

Tummum you should tell your gp he's talking bllcks. So there.

Ses I think I'm the oldest first time mum on here - I turned 38 at the end of April. I'd need to conceive another one by August next yr if I was to pop s/he out before I turn 40.

DH and I both agree and disagree about number 2. I agree with all his reasons to stick at one but my hormones are going 'la la la, we're not listening!'. The biggest issue is our house. It's a cosy 2-bed cottage which we've spent loads of cash on to get it just right (DH is an interior designer so that's really important to him). Only trouble is, we don't own it - FIL does, and even if it was ours to sell DH wouldn't sell it as it's been in his family over 100 years. If we did move, we could only afford somewhere ok-ish and I know it would depress DH after all the effort he has put into this place. It sounds a shallow reason, but there we are. DH's other main objection is my age: he knows a couple who're expecting their 2nd after the woman pestered her DH into TTC and the baby is very likely to have Down's If I tell him about loads of people who have popped out healthy DCs at 40+ he goes 'la la la'

H awake & demanding food, better go. Hope to pop back later.

just been reading the MN roundup.. how did i miss this lol!!! maybe i should try tomorrow when they're fullest?!

spangle not shallow reasons at all.. we'd need a bigger place for more dc's. i worry about the being 40+ too. if i'm still broody in NS maybe i'll give another some more thought?!

Fi, very funny thread! I didn't read the whole thread but it made me wonder how bored are people? and how much time does one have to 1) think about weighing one's breasts and 2) write about it?

spangle, I had Harper just before turning 40 and was a bit worried about downs but thankfully she's healthy. like you, I know so many 40+ who have healthy babies. doesn't helf with your DH not listening though.

it's not up to me but I want you guys to have babies even if you're 40/near40 or you don't have room, etc. I would love another but then I don't think my body could go through another pregnancy in such a short span and - more importantly - DH just received the NHS letter to say he's infertile! (feels strange to be happy about this.) it is a bit of a relief anyway.

ses, like the others said, O will learn. I've heard also that you can say 'no' and take him off the breast straight away. Harper has already clamped down (ouch!) with her gums and my yelp of pain startled her enough to make her come off and look at me in wonder and innocence (the cherub). didn't even have to utter 'No'. llare, 'don't bite the nipple...' very, very funny.

pula, maybe you should 'investigate' with your GP if relations continue to be painful. glad your smear test is over anyway. mine is in nov/dec. will remember to breeeeathe.

i'm using a lot of 'quotations' aren't i? .

whatcha all doing tonight?

Well I for one am sitting in my office, drinking wine again .

I think S is definitely teething, and she's looking like being a thumb-sucker (all of mine have been really sucky babies). Cute now but no so when she's 11........

Went to the mum and child group, it was lovely, they all spoke slowly for me and asked me what lots of words were in English. I sang 'Twinkle Twinkle Little Star' for everyone and we had a great time, I'm definitely going to the next one.

dandy you're amazing. How horrendous to have cancer so young, but how wonderful to have your 2 DC's now!

I hope everyone's ok, just going to catch up and back soon.

grumpy, how's the French? I really admire you as it must be tough. do you dream in French? i remember when I was in italy struggling with the language, people said I would be fluent when I started dreaming in the language. well, I did dream in Italian at some point but didn't understand myself so woke up confused .

The French.......I can read and understand loads of French and quite complicated French.

However, as far as actually talking to people goes, I can't remember the various tenses and verb endings and so invariably end up saying things like "I am driving to the shops yesterday and I am buying petrol tomorrow". It's incredibly frustrating and makes me sound like a goit, but from what the lovely French people I've pidgined at say, it's a common problem and they face the same problem when speaking English.

English isn't learnt particularly strongly here and so everyone likes to practice their bit of Anglais on me. My French is improving day by day.

And in my dreams, I'm fluent in French

DD2 is going to find French the easiest, she's picking it up almost by osmosis. DD1 already appears to have become teacher's pet and is having extra lessons.

Italy love that country, could never persuade DH to go, went when I was 16, saw the Basillica of St Francis in Assisi (sp x 100 there probably) and fell in love.

MOMI I'm doing nothing tonight. DH out boozing. I'm recovering from having both dc from dawn til dusk on my own today (brief respite when friend came over). Have now cracked open the vino rouge but have run out of wine glasses (seem to have broken a set of 12 over the years) so am drinking out of a pint glass. Classy huh. I hasn't to add, it's not a full pint...hic...

FI absolutely rofl at that thread.

Glad to hear a lot of you on this thread are old farts mature like me . I was 36 when ds born. Actually, I still am 36 but I do have to think about the year I was born and what year it is now to work out my age. That surely is a sign that I am old.

PULA glad you survived the smear. Sounds like you had a busy day, and what a sweetie your dd sounds.

TUM what a strange GP. Hope your UTI clears up soon.

FI ta for asking about B. Seems much better today.

DANDY I am now your FB 'fwend'. Be very afraid . BTW what you wrote about enjoying your ds more is exactly how I feel. Dd was a much "easier" baby but I had no idea at all; such high expectations pre birth not helped by me being a perfectionist and a bit sensitive to 'helpful' advice from friends who didn't have kids.

Right, am off to refill the pint and sign off for today. Busy day tomorrow - yet another party for dd then need to find something to keep them out of mischief in the afternoon whilst dh goes to the footie. Have a good evening / weekend folks.