january babies are now riggling,giggling & crawling to keep us on our toes

[bodenaddict]

hi

Whoah Bold is back.

Leennnniniii!!!???? What have you done....?

Moose - elkidee said exactly what I was going to say! Buy her a coffee somewhere nice. I'd come to yours, I'd feel at home.

I know how you feel t hough, I've pretended not to be in when someone has knocked at the door because of this place. The bathroom was a bio hazard

Boden, so glad dd was excited and looking forward to school. How are you, tearful, lump in throat or ready for it?

Chef I'm so sorry to hear how low you are feeling. PPD is most common in the first six months, but can start any time up to a year (occasionally ever after that). It could be that you were already mildly affected and because it has gone untreated the symptoms have intensified. Most cases of PPD don't have any negative feelings towards the baby, they are good mums who care for their babies very well. The more common symptoms are not being able to function as efficiently as usual (woolly thinking), feeling unable to cope or overwhelmed even by normal day to day stuff, feeling a failure or bad parent/wife, telling yourself your are useless/hopeless/a mess, changes in appetite (comfort eating or not eating at all), crying for no apparent reason and finding it difficult or impossible to have fun or look forward to things.

Not being able to get back to doing a job you love and 'need' to do for emotional and fulfilment needs rather than just for financial gain, could well be one of the triggers in your case. Your DH sounds like he is being a typical man and 'just not getting it'. If you don't want to see your GP or go down the medical route, getting back to work would probably be the best thing for you IMHO, as it would give you an outlet for your emotions as well as some time to yourself and a break from the whole baby routine. Even the best mothers in the world need a break from their children sometimes, in fact its often getting the occasional break that tends to make you a better mum. Would it be possible for you to organise some kind of 'talking therapy' (counselling or psychotherapy) for yoursef? This tends to have much better results than just going for antidepressants and I know you are very careful about what you put into your body. I went for psychotherapy when I had PPD and just getting out of the house once a week and speaking/venting to another adult that wasn't involved and didn't have an axe to grind was enormously helpful to me.

In the meantime, I'm sending you some very un MN hugs, it sounds like you could do with some tlc. (([smile))

Ooops! (())

News what happened on the school run?

You could come to my house for coffee - but I couldn't possibly let you in! We would have to sit in the camper instead!

Ooooo! What happened then, first no bold, now bold - this is messing with my poor befuddled brain!

No bold!

See you in the camper Moose!

Well - I satyed too long. I patted another little one I know on the back who was lip wobbling and I think that set her off a bit too. I couldn't let poor A just stand there all lost though.

W have troubles because she is constipated and it really does drag her right down, and also a shnuffly nose.

Am also worried about school dinners. The menu isn't as set [they got their weeks mixed up] so she wont be getting what she expects. She opted in on the days she likes food [pfb], and takes packed lunch on the others. So she didn't eat yesterday as the mince wasn't pitta pockets, and they put onion in the mince [outrage] Bless her outraged socks.

Maybe it will all be ok. Breath.

Hatts is chuntering and has a mild temp. Bloody vaccines.

atlanta had a great first day @ school came home covered in paint and brought home a book.
i went into town to get my hair cut.
didnt feel tearful definetly had enough of hols

Yay MiniBoden!

Oh News you poor thing, its horrible when thry aren't happy going into school in the morning. I bet once she's in there she'll be so busy and distracted all wil be forgotten and she'll be off having fun.

Have you tried fybogel for the constipation? My younger sister has spinabifida occulta, very mild but really affected her bowels, particlularly when she was little. The docs gave her fybogel, which I think acts as additional fibre to retain water in the bowel and help get things moving. She swears by it.

Poor little H as well, gosh you are going through it today. Did you watch Panorama about swine flu last night? They were talking about the vaccination and whether or not people want to give it to their children. I'm really not sure. I don't trust the government or the drug companies, but would never forgive myself if I said no and anything happened to one of my babies.

Boden great, really pleased that today went so well for you both - long may it continue.

Ds1 has his first judo club tonight after school. I don't know why, but I'm so uneasy about it. I know it will be good for him, its a non-violent very moral/ethical martial art that will help with his balance, stamina, coordination and self discipline (all of which he needs help with) but something feels amiss. I have made sure the school checks out the coach properly and everything, I think its probably just pfb overprotectiveness, I was the same when he started chess club fgs.

Lol at chess club worry. Aw, that felt like a hug, It really relieved my tension!

Fibrogel - I might try it. We have lactalose and moviocal but they take a while to act. She could do with a good...er...clear out.I wondered if dd1 might have a tiny occulta, she has a dimple and all. But nothing else so clearly a case of me having too much information and not enough knowledge

No idea about the swine flu vaccination thing - it's the MMR problem over again in my head. I feel uneasy about all of it. But my head wil explode if I think about it, if that makes sense? Especially with dd2, who is a different kettle of fish to dd1 all together. With this milk thing.

I'd be the same about the judo actually. I hate not being in the room whilst dd does her gymnastics. I took her to ballet but that was a no way no day as we weren't even encouraged to stay on the premises, even on the first class!

They're uor babies, it is our job to watch over them. A basic urge, it feels like sandpaper rubbed teeth when we have to go against the urge.

Sigh. Motherhood is very heavy this week. Though with the promise of joyous things to come.

Crap! Bold!

Maybe a certain laundry powder wants to raise its profile by making us think BOLD all the time

If so I'll take 100kg for free - cheers!

this is the fybogel leaflet that comes in the packet.

Cheapest I've seen it online is £4.15 for 30 sachets, but I think my sister got it on prescription.

You're a star Moose. Even if you are Bold.

i take fybogel it is great. i buy it from my local chemist next to the doctors

Oh Dog!!

Hells bells how awful for you, but big well done for acting in so calm and sensible a manor.

OMG! Dog what an awful shock for both of you! As News said, well done for acting so quickly and not panicking.

Just got back from year three meeting, where I found out ds1 is star of the week and he hadn't even told me. Apparently he got it for asking lots of clever appropriate questions in science (science and maths are his favourite topics). He said he forgot to tell me because he was excited so about judo! (Judo went well by the way and his year one teacher stayed for the first half so was all ok.) Got to go to assembly with dd tomorrow now though. Am a bit apprehensive as she's such a shouter/yodeller when she's bored. She is so loud its unbelievable! I think I'll put her in the sling and circuit the playground a few times before going in to get her to sleep (maybe a dreaded dummy for back-up as well).

I haven't dared post all day for fear of bolding you all again, but Dog hope you are okay. Terrible thing to happen to Isla the smiler. Good job she has such a great Mummy.

News It'll be easier tomorrow.

Boden Yay for good day at school. And glad you enjoyed your day too

Moose Don't you go bold on me now lady, I can't cope without MN!

Chef Sounds to me like you need to tell DH that you are going back to work because You Need To to maintain your career, for mental stimulation, to get you out of the house and to pay the bills. Sit him down and tell him the going back part is non-negotiable but you're happy to work out something that works for you all as a family. Sometimes I think men don't really realise what it is like being home with the kids day in day out. Perhaps you should suggest he spends a day or two with V while you hunt for some studio space so he gets an insight into your world? 10 months a Mum eh? How time flies. I hope you are still enjoying it - if it's any help much as I love my two little sausages I get very very very very very very bored sometimes. Children are wonderful sometimes, but not all that stimulating - my conversation with DD mainly involves "What is that Mummy?" "Why?" "What is that person doing Mummy?" etc. etc. after a while I get a little weary.

MissJ How is DH? Hope he's holding up. And hope the funeral goes ok - can't wait to meet N in Oct, was thinking about him earlier when I put DS's Green Baby jammies on!

DS says Mama to me, but only when he wants milk or when he wants me to pick him up. It is pretty cute though and I'm very pleased he chose to go with mama ahead of dada, since DD said Daddy, Grandad, Dog, Milk... and plenty more before Mummy. He also says Hiya, and has learnt to wave and clap. He's a little cutie. I'm in love.

Obviously I put DS in the jammies, not me, since that would be a little strange.

Hi everyone, YEY and AYA for no bold... fingers crossed.

Lenni Can't wait to meet you all too! It will be really good fun. The boys can all bash each other about. OH is okay I think - he's been away for three days taking his big ride across Wales, so I am sure he has been missing Magic. Back late tonight so looking forward to seeing him again.

Dog you poor thing, that sounds really scary. Before I weaned Nye I read up about what to do if they choke, and you did the right thing with the back wallop - I often rehearse it in my head when I am freaking out generally about being responsible... - but must have been awful to actually carry it out. Hope your caffeine rush has subsided by now!

boden DD sounds like she had a great day, how brilliant for you.

tree oh just the thought of your LO coming up against a lunch she wasn't expecting... breaks my heart! I was a pfb too and always had packed lunch. I still remember my lunchbox... it will all be routine in a couple of weeks I expect. But she will always have ups and downs. School is a big deal!

chef agree, you don't sound depressed, you just sound rightfully pissed off. I hate to sound cliched, but men, really, have no idea how women have to fundamentally change their sense of life/ space/ individuality/ soul when they have a child... Do what you need to do to care for yourself - no-one else will do it for you. This is what I have learned.

MM felt reading your surprise that another Mum would ask you for coffee - you are so articulate and funny and caring on this thread, so I am pretty sure that in RL you can't be some sort of monster! And your house can't be THAT bad (you of superb organisational skills) - but I agree with others that have suggested meeting for a coffee elsewhere if the thought stresses you out.

We are slightly struggling the last few days as N seems to have dropped his little mid-afternoon nap - which I think is better in terms of going down at night, but worse because by the time we get to about 5pm he is approaching melt-down..... would be nice if he slept for longer at lunchtime, and then I think he would probably be okay. But apart from that, all is good... but exhausting. He is such a sweet, smiley, happy chap.

Christ I'm tired and so out of touch.......

Just finished typing a newsletter and the minutes for playgroup as twas the commitee meeting today. HOW do I get myself roped into these things.

Hope Mini-boden had a nice day at school, I think FB tells me she enjoyed it.

Dog- Just read bit about Isla, how scary for you! hope she is ok now, what a terrible thought. I sometimes get thoughts like this and scare myself rigid. have been known to wake in the middle of the night and go in and check they are still alive....DH thinks I'm batty

Errr, tax credits have now decided that they owe us A LOT of money and are giving us £300 a month. I am asking NO questions, thought they owed us some and now feel justified, don't care if its wrong as its taken me complaining 3 times to get this far Things not quite as tight as I thought for next year so YAY!

Sorry, selfish post alert, time for a wash and heading to bed!

Oh, forgot to mention that my friend bought DS round her old V-tech walker this afternoon. He was like the cat that got the cream.

has already learnt how to take steps pushing it, thank the lord for a bigger house soon!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and I think we may have Da-da-da as of yesterday so am very of the 'Mama' lenni. Z says Mmmmmmmmm, Mmmmmmmmm when he sees me, but that could be 'milk' I'm thinking.

MissJ- surely its totally worth a bit of a long afternoon if N goes longer at night? glad to hear he is a happy chappy too.

Evening people.

dd struck with the hysterical ab-dabs this eve, not terrors more tantrums. Maybe its the meds working and there is a weapon grade addition to the sea on its way....

Hurrah for tax credits Pat. What will you buy I often scheck mine are alive tucked in.
Can't believe there are words! No teeth or new sounds here. But sitting strongly and very very happy. Such a smiler. Such a change from the 1st 4 months!

I totaly agree with MissJ about Moose. I would sit in a jail to have a cuppa with you Moose, you are a sound woman. Yay for ds1!! Yuo must be chuffed to bits Moose.

Hope you have a happy homecoming with dh MissJ.

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