Nov 2008 - because there was no thread space to think of a clever title!

[Yorky]

Had to be done soon, hope it works!

It gets worse I have just been talking to my other neighbour who has become a good friend to me over the last year and her DD was walking said dog but my DF wasnt happy about it and told her to stop, but she found out same woman had shouted at her last week and then her DD had went round again and the woman asked her into her house so my friend was saying never ever go there again.
My DD1 is sleeping now but I am thkind of person who thinks of things to say after the event but will say to her next time I see her never to shout at my DD again.
daisy glad your babies are a bit better.
chocgal I will be in your shoes next week, kind of looking forward to being a nurse again
pinky hope you ears better soon.
ceebee glad Hamster

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ceebee Glad hamster is enjoying nursery
ladybuzz Hope Jays tooth comes through soon, Millie has 4 teeth at the top and her gums are bursting must be annoying her

Woohoo! I am connected again!!
I am sooo happy!
Did ya miss me??

Quick catch up.
I caved , J is in the room with DD. We get peace from 8-12 then see him 2 hourly after that, so not a whole heap better, but a little. At least this way DH is doing his part though.
He was told J goes in there but I don't. It is me he is smelling and demanding so, no more. I told him it was his turn for 8 months of no sleep [evil ]
Ha! DH lasts about 5 mins then comes through to me, what will I do, what does he need? Or Grrr horrid J just won't stop grr, until I cave and back in I go

Have put J side car cot to DD, who has one of those spare beds that hide under hers and can be raised to the same level IYSWIM?
So J is still co sleeping with someone, be it DD, DH or me.
It seems to be working.

Only down side at the mo is poor J and his willy
His ...ahem.. foreskin, is too short so doesn't cover him all up and now he is getting sore.
Looks like someone has sliced the end off it, is so bad.
Docs told me, just use barier cream he does not seem in pain.
up every 2 hours shouting as if in pain. I have been putting it down to teeth, but they are a no show, so how long do I keep blaming them?
Well, off to docs tommorrow, so will shout a bit at them.

Oops that wasn't a quick catch up at all

morning,

O hasn't eaten for 2 days and is only having 3 bottles in 24 hrs and no other fluids, i too am putting it all down to teeth.

hope work goes ok ellie i'm sure you will settle back in fine.

Hey twinkling

Good to have you back and that you are getting a little more sleep! I sometimes think that I shouild go to bed at 8 after the children and then at least I'd get about five hours straight a night. no life though!!

Is it OK to have J sleeping that close to DD? or he is in his cot beside her so bars between them?

and ouch for his poor willie . I hope you get some answers from the doctor.

We have our first tooth - Yay!
I'm so pleased poor little mite!
Tegan Jay was exactly the same as O and it was his teeth (as I know now ) hope it makes an appearence soon.

Pinky hope your ear clears up soon.

Ellie at your neighbour she sounds awful! hope DD is OK

Hi twinkling hope you sort poor Js willy. We are having issues in that dept too and were also told its nothing to worry about. I asked the HV yesterday though and she said there def is an issue but they won't do anything if it isn't hurting him. She also said he might stretch it himself when he starts to take an interest in it.

Its actually not raining here today so I am off out for a walk with the boys.

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aaahhhhh that's better.

he had managed to put the number lock on, which is pretty impressive as the two keys you press to do it are at diagonally opposite corners of the keyboard!

yay for the tooth LB.

bumble is crawling...well sort of. He made it out of the living room and into the hall earlier; no stopping him now

Afternoon all

Twinkling welcome back - we did miss ya! Poor J - his willy problem sounds like it could be painful but hopefully it will correct itself - joys of having boys eh?

Daisy well done to Bumble - am dying for Hamster to start crawling as I think he will be far happier once he is on the move!

Buzz yay for J's tooth - at last! Still waiting for Hamster's to arrive - am slightly worried although no idea why as Ds1's first tooth didn't arrive until he was 9 months old and I do quite like the gummy look

Ellie your neighbour sounds like a bit of a dragon - I would think your DD is well out of it by not walking her dog! She is hardly going to get many offers behaving like that is she??

Have a friend coming over shortly - her 14-month old has chicken pox and she has been trapped in the house since the weekend. I figured that since Sam has had it already, might aswell give her the opportunity to see 4 different walls

bugger, I sold a fridge to one of the mums from stay and play and DH delivered it at the weekend. She hadn't paid me for it yet (thankfully), and it's stopped working. I feel really bad as some of her food has gone off and she is a single mum and is really struggling. Would it be off to offer her some money to get more shopping?

bloody rain; it's tipping it down here again.

bumble still not 100%. He is now throwing up every time he coughs. He doesn't have a temperature though, so not sure what the docs will do other than just say "virus"

daisy it is as if DD is at the far side of a double bed to J. Do you think that is too close, do you think?
She pretty much stays in her own bed, so there is always a single bed between them.
It kinda seemed safer to me, cos that way I can lie down while feeding and, if/when J starts to move, he has a whole double bed to get around before he finds a floor to fall on.
Though, obviously, once he is actually on the move I will have to re-assess everything.

Docs, of course, did very little. Assured me he would not be in pain for this kind of thing and took a swab to see if there is an infection. Which there won't be cos, of course, it is not bleeding today and, of course, looked pretty healthy! Typical, eh?

Oh daisy, poor bumble

ah right; he is next to the "spare" bed as opposed to on it; sorry I didn't understand what you meant first time. I'd read that older children shouldn't share a bed with a bbay, or if they do should have an adult in the middle. Not sure how old that should be until though; I imagine it would only apply to a younger baby.

twinks nice to have you back My friends little boy had trouble with his foreskin when he was a baby, not sure what happened think he got cream.
Ladybuzz Did you enjoy your walk.
We are fine after crazy lady episode last night, I have been keeping my eye out for her today I am deinately going to tell her I didnt appreciate the way she behaved towards my DD, I didnt say anything last night as was taken aback but dont want her thinking she can shout at me and daughter when she feels like it.
DH back tomorrow YAY have been busy all day and am going to make a list lol
done 3 loads of washing, dried, ironed and put away,
Cleaned Kitchen
Cleaned Bathroom
Hoovered
Washed floors
Been to post office
Looked after children
Stripped our bed and washed and then made it up again.
If DH was home he would be getting "list" but he is not so I have written it here lol

I don't think it would be bad to offer, saying that you feel so bad.... you know?
I mean you are not offering cos she is a single mum, you don't want to give her a hand out, you just want to replace what was lost cos you feel bad that something you sold broke.

Agree with twinks sorry daisy meant to reply earlier, she can only say no.
I am watching how the other half live think its going to be emotional.

I have just added people on FB so if you get a request it is likely to be me

ellielou02 at that stupid crazy neighbour. Hope your DD has been too upset by it all.
twinklingfairy HELLLOOOO. Poor J and you lovely. Hope the doc has been helpful.
tegan hope O ok. I wouldnt worry about the lack of food as long as having fluids and seems ok to you.
ladybuzz congrats on the tooth . I completely understand what the HV means by taking an interest in his willy . I have lost count how many times I have told DS to leave his alone when he's in the bath or even walking around in the nude in front of Alyssa! Good job they dont understand things at this age. At 3yr old I have already had to explain to him why him and A are different and to stop looking !
lacka congrats on the crawling. Alyssa is getting everywhere too so now it starts with the saying "no" and moving them away from things. She has even got up the fireplace to take the stones off it . She commando drags herself at mo but has started raising her bum and doing a sort of boogie .

Hi again, found you all

Sorry you're having such a rough time vbab - I agree that we don't feel like married couple atm, but hang on in there, I'm hoping that more sleep will make me feel friendlier

Hope J's willy doesn't get sore, DS 'checks' his regularly/constantly!

Can't believe Bumble is mobile Daisy, how to run round in ever decreasing circles more than ever! How annoying about the fridge - I don't think she would mind you offering to replace some of the lost food, if not you could make 'too much' next time you have a flapjack production moment.

Sorry to those I've missed, off to read thread more thoroughly now

ESSAY ALERT
Things good here but had a very mixed day. Went to a friend's house with kiddies to see her 3 kids and another friend with 2 kids. Well all was well but i kept noticing that DS would run in the room to us exciting playing and no one following like he was on his own but didnt think anything to it (DS the youngest at 3yr). Another time the young girl (4yr) ran into us crying saying DS had done something but none of us could make it out but her mum told her to stop putting it on . DS ran in after her happy and playing then realised she was upset so I saw his face change to upset and he ran out the room. We think DS had tried to cuddle her (which he does to anyone). But they all carried on playing.

Next thing I know my friend's eldest (11yr) came in the room and said her brother (6yr) told DS to kiss the young girl and pull down his pants . DS didnt though. I was not happy. This happened the last time we saw them but it was the young girl (4yr) that pulled DS pants down while her and the others laughed at DS . While the boy was getting told off by his mum who took him upstairs I heard him say the young girl whispered it in his ear and told him to say it. At which moment she appeared in the room with me and her mum and her mum said "you better had not been whispering" but that was it! i told DS we were going because i was so angry but DS didnt understand. when coming back downstairs my friend said to the boy he should apologise to me HE GAVE BACK CHAT TO ME AND HIS MUM SAYING WHY SHOULD HE!!! I said "I dont what apologies that are not genuine so dont bother". We left but on ok terms.

Am I wrong to be angry at the 6yr old? i think whether the little girl (known to be sly) told him to say it or not he should know better. Poor DS is so soft he thinks they are his friends and doesnt realise they arent playing they are making fun of him. I know kids are kids but this has happened twice to DS and I see it as they pick on him when he doesnt know better and it makes me sooo angry . As for the boy if he was my DS for his actions and words to his mum and the me he would have stopped upstairs. Where was the discipline?

After all this when we came home due to my high emotions i flipped at DS being slightly lack of hearing rather than telling him off a little. As quick as i told him off i felt guilty and started crying. I then felt happy and sad at once when DS said "you ok now mummy we are best friends here is your picture i did for you". BLESS HIM. I thought I must remember this when I see the doctor next week.

I even took DS to mcdonalds as a treat i think to make up for my behaviour. He got a magazine yesterday for my guilt. these emotions are costing me a fortune. i just hope they dont cost me my "best mate forever".

vbab just read your post and sorry you had such a rubbish time at your friends. You are right to be so upset at what happened, I would be too. I think I'd angry too at the mum for lack of discipline. In my experience, 6 year olds love all that willy and bottom humour. Thinking about my DS2, he loves the occasional chance to have a laugh at younger child, and I don't mean that he is cruel or naughty, it's just his chance to be "top dog" in a situation rather than playing second fiddle to an older brother.
I wouldn't take it personally on behalf of your DS that he was picked on, they probably do it to any poor kid that darkens their door. It's lovely that you felt so protective towards your DS and even though you had a flip at him later, it goes to show that you have all these lovely feelings towards your son even though sometimes you are narked with him.

ellielou I have just found your friend request on fb and accepted!! Hope all goes well for DH coming back tomorrow.
lacks hope you all start to feel better soon. Well done ( i think?) on the crawling. M is now sitting up by himself without toppling over much!

Well, let me fill you in on the speech therapists visit to assess M's weaning. I could do it in 3 words......waste of time.
To be fair, I didn't expect her to arrive with great words of wisdom, I know it's going to be a long slow process of getting him onto lumpy food. But what I was annoyed at was that I ended up telling her all about tongue tie. She hadn't even realized there were different types. Now I know she probably doesn't come across a lot of it and therefore could be rusty in her knowledge, but I know if I were in her shoes and knew I was doing a home visit to someone with tongue tie, then i would at least update myself a bit. Pah.
Meant to say the last time he was at the docs, she looked down his throat and it turns out he has these ENORMOUS tonsils just like DS2 had. DS2 ended up having his taken out, not because he got tonsillitis, but just because they were so restrictive in his breathing and sleeping (v. noisy at night)
So all in all the poor M has got a lot going on in his mouth and throat area.

flipping heck vbab you reckon you've done an essay, I think i've just done a dissertation, better stop now!!!

ellie i DO THE 'LIST' FOR dh TOO[SMILE]
oh cobblers, hit caps lock

Caw, that took ages, and all I read was one page!
Oh vbab my heart totally goes out to you. I am so sick of the arguments with my DH. After saying that he would go to the doc for anger managment (he flies off the handle at the smallest thing) he has done absolutely nothing.
He was going to get a blood test cos he gets absolutely horrendous if he is hungry, put a bit of chocolate in his mouth and it is a miraculous transformation. But again, he has actually done,....nothing.
Ok, in his defence, he did ask, but had to have blood taken before 11am and he won't take the day off to get across the county for it. Can't blame him for that.

aaaanyway, I can understand what you are going through, cos me and DH seem to clash more than connect (forget the physical, daisy I am with you, I just don't need the demands from DH as well as DS)

Defo think that going to get help from docs is a good idea just tell them how negatively you find yourself reacting to things without saying the PND thing, as pinky said.
I would think about the counselling too. I think that your DH does love you, really, and that you can prob work things out, but you are finding it hard to communicate all that you are feeling right now. but hey, I don't truly know you and I don't mean to say anything out of turn.
Do you remember though, your reaction when you thought he was flirting, you were mega jealous. That was a gut reaction.

DH and I are doing ok for the mo. We have had the ultimatum talk (once or twice though) but the last time, we ended up involving my mum who gave us both a shake and said 'look at what you have, don't throw it away'.
It does seem, for the most part, to have worked.
Still, he cusses and swears at the slightest thing, which just gets me, everytime

ho hum, time for bed I think.

ooh hello!
daisy just wanted to say W has same as bumble - our poor little guys! He was throwing up when he coughed too and wheezing so took to dr this a.m and he got a once over and all fine. was worried bout chest infection but is clear. just wanted to say think w is getting over it now so hopefully bumble will be feeling a bit better soon x
vbab gah! I would be extremely annoyed if that had happened too
fof sorry that the SALT was a disappointment. Very annoying. Hope you get some support soon. W is doing o.k with weaning (apart from allergy issues) so have decided not to persue getting tongue snipped for the time being so as not to confuse. But did notice yesterdat that his top lip seems to be attached between his top teeth - is this normal for babies or is this another tie?

hello to everyone else!

am a thread destroyer this evening btw am bit

God vbab that is so upsetting.
How good are these friends?
If their children are not being nice/including yours, forget them.
It worries me greatly when I hear tell of this kind of thing, humiliation and pulling down of pants! Cruel to the extreme.
But then, I only have my 2 wee ones, what do I know of 6 yr olds?
Do they really do this kind of thing?
Where did the girl/boy get the idea to combine kisses and the pulling down of pants?
Worrying
Or am I the one overreacting now?

and vbab. Poor DS. I would be inclined to have proper words with their mum over how upsetting it has been. As a mum of a (used to be) 6yo, I would say that this is not normal 6yo behaviour and I would suspect that the older boy is probably behind it all. Also as the youngest in a family of 9 cousins who all used to descend on Granny every Saturday any funny business/ritual humiliation was always done by the older ones on the youngest .

I can understand you not wanting to fall out with the mum, and if you don't feel you can say anything else, I would make sure that next time you see them that DS isn't left alone with the older children.

barbs, poor W, hope he is better soon. I just wish bumble wouldn't do the hacking "40 a day" cough, sounds horrible.

fudge, if M's tonsils are enlarged is this the reason he is gagging on anything solid? Having had lots of bouts of tonsilitis, once the pain was numbed with painkillers it was still hard to swallow with a restricted space. I would go back to the docs and demand a referral to an ENT specialist.

yorky, lol at DS chicking his constantly.....what is it with men/boys? bumble grabs his at every nappy off opportunity and cries when I out the new nappy on as he can't get it anymore......DH just tells him that he'll spend the rest of his life being admonished for playing with it.

I have done the unprecendented, and have packed clothes for all the DC and DH has done his own. DH and I usually run around like headless chickens the night before/morning of our holiday trying to get things sorted....NOT THIS YEAR . We've even cleared out under the stairs for the electrician and emptied the airing cupboard (which is coming out to make a bigger bathroom). Only my stuff, the groceries and coats and shoes to sort and we are good to go. DH wants me to leave the pooter at home, but I'm having palpitations at the though of being without it....two weeks. nope can't do that sort of cold turkey.

I see vbab's essay and fudge's dissertation and raise you a thesis

oh, and twinkling, I can totally realte to DH and the hunger thing.....I get like that if I don't eat. I tested neg for diabetes though and they said hypoglycaemia. It's a lot better now that I am on a gluten free diet as my poor vitamin absorption was adding to the hypoglycaemic effect.