Jan '09 'All we are saying is give peas a chance....and carrots and broccoli and cumcumber and........'

[hongkongzoe]

...here we go ladies, right I'm off to catch up!

Am now sweating a bit about Moose, as I haven't seen her around her sty in ages [must be a few hours at least ] and it's wierd without Moose.

Hope you are curled up in your sty, tucked with some hay and turnips, and your piglets are ok.

yes, hope she's just trying to sleep the bug out or something... hope you aren't feeling too bad, tree

I'm gonna go and crawl into bed. Wish me luck.

qumps hope you have a better night.

tree hope you feel lots better tomorrow. I'm sure moose will be ok. probably snoozing under a warm duvet.

goodnight.

Dont panic Mr Manwaring (sp?) am here, in spirit if not in body.

Have been in bed all day, couldn't get up this morning, arms and legs ached, random sore joints, thundering headache and killer sore throat, extending down windpipe. Worst bit is a nasty pain around the bottom of my ribcage on the left hand side. Kept ds2 off school, not ill, just ridiculously tired and kept crying.

DH had to go into work, so was left at home with all 3 dcs on my own and Mum was unable to help today. Stayed in bed with my door open and confined boys to their room (opposite mine) with their door open stocked up with drinks, snacks, dvds and books/toys etc.

Fortunately, DH managed to get the afternoon off and got home at 1.30, by which time, I'd really had it as between all 3 kids and the fear of leaving them unsupervised I hadn't been able to rest.

Haven't had a high temperature at all though.

Dd is not herself, couldn't get her to settle at all, lots of crying and needing to be held constantly, so think she's feeling poorly too.

Sorry to hear you have it too Tree. I haven't gone for antivirals, firstly because without the temp they won't give them to you, secondly as all they do is reduce the symptoms slightly and shorten the illness by one day (on local news tonight there were people saying it only lasted 3 days for them and people who've gone back to work at DH's office have only had it for 3/4 days as well) and thirdly because I'm still not sure we've actually, got/had it.

We have stopped ds1's tamiflu as he seems to have made a total recovery and has been a complete pita loon all day today after being cooped up since Tuesday. He only took 4 pills in all. Am thinking that's probably for the best, as we now have the right dosage of pills to start straight away if ds2 goes down with it and he's much more high risk.

Haven't read much and just crawling back to bed, but qumps we ended up resorting to cc with ds1 after, what with moving and travelling/camping, he was so used to sleeping with us we just couldn't get him to settle, we too were at our wits end. We did it slightly differently, we did the kiss and retreat method. You place a chair next to the cot and sit with them but don't interact, if they start to get distressed you just lay them back down, give them a kiss and sit down again. Gradually you move the chair further and further across the room until you are outside the door. It worked really well for us. We also had a sort of medley of 'sleepy songs' which we always sang when we put him in his cot - they still make him fall asleep if we sing them now, I think its a conditioned response.

Right, only got up for a bath and change of nightclothes. Am crawling back upstairs now.

Hope everyone else is ok.

Get well soon Tree.

Yay Moose.
What you say makes sense I must say. Hmmmmm.

We did pat/shush and retreat, and edged towards the door over a year week or 52. It seemed maddness to work ok really. I think. Long time ago now, 4 years.
Well, she is 4.9 and sleeps through in her own bed and doesn't need much getting to sleep. So I claim that as a victory for my accidental parenting skills.

Night all.

Fingers crossed for peaceful nights. Good luck Qumps and Kity. See how we all tomorrow, another day.

How were the lady bits Tink? Was it Tink? ??

morning - hope everyone ok and no more temperatures and piggy oinks.

We have our employee wooohoo!! (I think I may in my rant have failed to mention that we also had two budding internet entrepreneurs wanting to steal our secrets apply as well!)

We did pick up, put down, with pat/shush, and like trees dd1 it worked for ours. She sleeps through (unless ill) 12 or 13 hours, goes to sleep within 5 minutes (silent minutes! yay!) of being in bed, etc.

Was a killer prior to 9mo though...

Hmm moose, dd is very tired and whiny today... have just tucked her in bed for a 'nap'... unheard of, so maybe she's coming down with it too? Highly unlikely she'll sleep though!

Uh oh ds1 asking to go to bed! Let's hope we are not being hit too. Under 5s the most vunerable apparenty. Lots of get better soon wishes to you all.
Well S cried for 5 mins at 7pm, shouted at 5am for 30 secs and then woke up to him laughing at 6.55. Can't quite believe it! We are doing go back in after 5, 10, 15 mins. Was trying pupd but he never stopped crying and pat shush didn't work either, so although it was quite extreme I am so far glad we have done it.
God just realised he has been asleep for an hour! Been to check on him about 6 times and now crazily wondering if I should wake him
Kitty hope the love is all around and you had a better night too.
Got a crazy wanting to go to Ikea today. Call me mental but I love it - hotdogs, meatballs and shopping yay!

Sparkle what does your company do or is it top secret? Glad you have found someone.

qumps engagement rings and wedding rings....

Hope Moose and Tree are feeling better and so are your DCs.

Qumps, we did CC with Jude and Lily and have no regrets. Lily slept throught the night frm 12 weeks anyway and has never been a problem with waking in the night or going to bed and (wood touching again....) Jude has been sleeping right through for a little while. He does a sort of moaning thing as he's going off to sleep now, but not a distressed sound iyswim. I guess you just have to do what works for you. I think also, that I wake at Jude making the slightest sound and so am probably to quick to go in and pick himup and since I have been back at work DP has beenin charge at night and he never wakes up, so J has just stirred and gone back to sleep! PUPD and Pat Shush didn't work well with either of mine as they got older, I think thye found it confusing.

Glad you found someone to hire Sparkle.

EPPM, my DD is super whiney today also and have just put her down for a nap which, at this time in the morning is most unusual... although she did have a super tantrum which lasted a good 40 minutes (sigh...I thought wwe'd got over that)

Kitty, I think 24 weeks is fine to give a soother, J has had a cuddly floppy zebra thing in with him for about a month now and he curls himself around it and strokes it as he drifts off.

I am a happy bunny, 7 weeks of paid school holidays are stretching out ahead, just got weaning, potty training, wedding, being completely skint and a mountain of work to get through.

Really enjoying BLW, I did purees with DD, but DS is loving the BLW, its really fun to watch them (I need to get out more)...haven't read up on it, but am just giving him large chunks of steamed vege and fruit and hoping for the best! He covered me in banana vomit yesterday as he got a bit over enthusiastic. Have dropped baby rice and cereal as it seems to make his skin bad. The oilatum and E45 is definitely helping the eczema.

Hen night tonight, (I refuse to have anything to do with devil horns, L plates or other such malarky!) not sure what my friend has planned but my sister has booked us into a posh hotel so I get a night of freedom and....A LIE IN! Can't wait, but think getting up at 7 is now so ingrained in me that I'll be lying there wondering what to do and end up coming home early anyway!

Got your parecel today hKZ - thank you! Very very kind of you. I can paypal you?

In bed feeling ok so long as don't do too much. Tight chest and all that, and had to go downstairs for a nappy and got totally out of breath and started coughing like mad.

Mum can't really visit. Her partner had lung cancer, huge op and a whole lung out in December. SO am guessing swine flu would be bad.
On top of that he is now on emergency list for an MRI as he has sight problems so big worry of secondary tumours in brain. Hopefully MRI monday.
Poor man. He and my mum have been together 20 years so this is mega.

Qumps - great you had a good night!

Hi Tree

Sorry to hear about your Mum's partner, must be really worrying. My dad had 6 brain secondaries, lost his sight in one eye and his personality changed significantly, but after just one session of targetted radiotherapy he was like a new man again after only 48 hours, its amazing what they can do these days.

I'm still in bed too. Dh took ds2 to a farm birthday party this morning so have had ds1 and dd on my own all morning, he's just got back.

Spent the morning curled up in bed with dd in a crib full of toys and ds1 playing on the cbeebies website on dh's laptop (he's never normally allowed to touch the laptop).

I still don't think I've got oinky flu. Probably just a nasty virus. Throat and 'pipes' feel all burny and irritated and bad headache, but have only coughed a couple of times and still no temp. Legs still verrrry wobbly when I get out of bed and feel very spaced out though.

Am hoping I'm better for Tuesday night as both sisters, my niece (the one thats pg) and my step nan are home and we are all supposed to be going out for a meal together while dh babysits for my gang and my nephew (8).

Not sure about dd either, she's been sick several times this morning and she is almost never sick, what with her mega grumps and irritability last night, she's not really herself at all.

Poor old dd hasn't had any more solids since Thursday tea time, basically if I don't organise, it noone will and I am just not up to it at the moment.

Wow Moose - that's encouraging. We were all pretty floored by the news tbh and thought it was just the worst. Its good to hear there may be a defence, iff it is the worst. We'll see, no point going there till we know.

We sound in pretty much the same boat Moose. DH has just said he thinks I need to take the med and get better.

DD2 not fed here either Moose!! Thats so similar, I did mention it to dh yesterday but I ended up doing it at 8pm. She wolfed down some apple and peach from Ella's - from a squeezy thing. I just couldn't face defrosting and adding ebm etc to the sweet pot and carrot we have frozen. Will do some apple wedges for her today and some bannana too. .

I hope C is ok Moose.

We were exactly the same Tree though that was it, but we had another valuable year with him and the thing we lost him to was related to the prostate cancer, but not the brain tumours.

Aw Moose . Thank you for telling me about it.

I have bought the brown itti I want. I've wanted it for 6 months, and really, nothing matters does it? Especially not £13. If we can't take pleasure from little things when we are alive and well, and the dc's are thriving, then whats the point.

And on that shopping note I have had this bargain delivered today

here Got some for my Goddaughter too. Free delivery so worth it.

I've been drooling over the mini mode half price swimwear sale. We have a lovely mini mode uv suit in 3-6 months, but I want one in 6-9 months for her as mini mode sometimes come up small. I fancy this suit with this hat. Wanted this coverup to go with it, but they are out of dd's size.

these are a bit of a bargain at a fiver for two though.

You're making me want to go on holiday

I like the molly'n'jack stuff too. Lovely.

Sigh, Stuff. I like.

My chest is so tight and sore. Pah.

Haven't you just come back off holiday?

We are off to Wexford on 9th August for 10 days with our best mate, his partner and her 13 year old dd (who is lovely and not a bit teenagery thank goodness). Am praying for good weather, as we are way too broke to do anything but sit on the beach and walk the dogs, despite paying for the ferry with Tesco vouchers!

Problem is the VW has to pass its MOT first and that aint gonna be easy - or cheap!

I feel like somone's kicked me in the ribs [grump] and I just had a bust up with dh because he wanted to leave the dcs with me - again, while he went and got some tyres fitted on the van! Grrrr - men!

Oi! Who you callin' a sicko - broccoli stealer!