Jan '09 'All we are saying is give peas a chance....and carrots and broccoli and cumcumber and........'

[hongkongzoe]

...here we go ladies, right I'm off to catch up!

missj forgot to say, what a wanker silly man arguing about breast-feeding. There simply is NO argument, its clearly best, but regardless of that, its a woman's personal choice. He is one of those blokes who i would actually LOVE to sit down next to in a cafe and breast-fed in-front of (note i always do it discreetly although i know am not obliged to do so) and happyily tell them if they ever DARED to challenge me that it is in-fact now illegal to voice your disapproval of someone doing so. (although how they would enforce this piece of legislation I'm not so sure!)

anyone would think that man had got my back up....and i wasn't even there/ the woman in question!

Ray secret weapon = jumperoo ( I think)

Alternatively, Thread Keeper of the amazing baby routine (or something along those lines but probably much better worded)

sorry cross posts with Tree

Awww, nice to be appreciated eh? Night all

Shit - how can I be keeper of the thread Bag-o-guilt? I have basically fallen in the bloody bag!

Moose - my dh the same. It's lack of sex. Almost certainly.

Why oh why am i so silly sometimes! doh!

I have always been what my best friend describes as 'book smart' but when it comes to common sense, or cottoning onto jokes etc, i am as dumb as they come!

....maybe its the fact i'm naturally blonde (for those who haven't seen a FB pic of me- my hair is currently DARK brown!)

moose sometimes i think i take myself and the routine a bit seriously. I feel myself getting all uptight if i'm stuck in traffic somewhere & Esme is going to be asleep for too long and then not sleep at night or something. Sometimes i wish i could relax a bit more about her day & just enjoy being a mummy rather than being so routine. That said, she seems to really enjoy it, so maybe its not so bad!

Tree, maybe you didn't do the top of the bag up properly and it escaped?

Nah, can't be that or he'd've been mardy for the past 10 years at least.

Hatts up - gotta go. Sorry Moose, I wasn't commenting on your sex life- just my own!!

Ray I was just like you when ds1 was a baby and used very similar methods. He was a really happy and easy baby and it helped me to gain confidence in my ability to care for him.

I know what you mean about getting uptight when the routine gets thrown out, but you'll probably find that will lessen as the routine gets simplier as she get older.

You are doing a fantastic job m'girl. You shoudl be justifiably proud of yourself.

What sex life?!

Right, am knackered, off to express and then to bed.

Night all.

Well, congratulations tree and EPPM for getting mentions in the latest popularity contest thread.

Holy Cow! How long have been away?! More than 10 pages have gone by!

Sex life? DH informed me last week that he has has been an angel but now, we will be having sex twice a week. We had sex once and he got BJ once. That's pretty good I think.

another hellish night here
have read but need to shuffle back to bed now.

missj- thank you for sharing Nye's visit to great-grndmother... very moving.

Think I am thread keeper of the nightwatch or something.

Moose- need to know more about your camper I think... type? vintage? most importantly colour?

Guilt, guilt, guilt... think it's all off the register atm for us all

You know- they really don't remember this time at all- if it's any consolation.

Ummm- we're getting full.. need a new thread title soon.

elkie- yes- a very odd comment re me though! I am "...interesting..." now what do you think that means? a conundrum, an enigma, a riddle? or just an oddity? [navel gaze]

Christ on a bike, 920 postS! We are eating up these threads at the moment!

Sorry disappeared sharpish last night, dad threw me off the computer as was in a rage . He couldn't find his code-maker thing for his online business account and needed to pay loads of bills. After turning house upside down we have concluded that my nephew, who was on computer a fair bit yesterday must have been fiddling with it and absent-mindedly put it somewhere. Going to cost my dad about £60 in late fees i think!

Well done to EPPM and Tree on the popularity contest. did start reading that thread but it got a bit arse-licky, may have been tongue-in-cheek but i can never really tell on here! Anyhow must have been some posters taking it seriously if two of our finest got a mention.

Good lord, tree and moose now bemoaning thier parenting. listen girls, you need to witness my shoddy attempts before you ever think about holding yourself in judgement!

LOL at C. and Esme starting to communicate. It is entirely possible, especially with little girls. you have another woman in the house from day one and they don't take long to develop these madamish tendancies, enjoy!

Ray- It's easy to get hung up on routine, especially with a first. Soon you will find that the odd change doesn't do her any harm and they appreciate getting back into routine so much after a little disruption, it's really quite sweet to see!

Books- LOL at your DS keeping interrupting you, he does sound funny! hope DD's teeth through soon.

Dog- at your lovely weather, chucking it down here. off to my Nan's in a bit then round a friends for lunch. hope it clears soon.

Qumps, Tree, Dog etc-thanks for the advice on my nephew. the update is he did 2 massive poo's yesterday after the pear water and feels much better.

moose- I often think DD is spoilt and DH completely beliveves she is. Like someone else said, society is very different now thats all. you do not sound like you spoil your boys at all. unless you mean spoiling with attention and then we are all guilty of that, nevrmind eh!

chef- sex twice a week/ blimey, rather you than me .

Hi everyone,

Thanks for empathetic comments about my grandmother, and lovely to hear thoughts about others' family. LenniEd my brother is exactly the same - a clone of my father, and although Dad is still driving us mad very much around, I always think as long as my brother's here, so is my Daddy! stripey how lovely to hear that C has taken to your mother too - it's nice when the babes show delight at certain people these days.

ray my friend's baby girl def started shaking her head and making this little 'ne ne ne' sound to go with it around about now - so entirely likely that she is making her feelings clear! Thanks for rage on my behalf at DH's friend! The next day I kept thinking up good things I could have said to his comments, but they would have been wasted on a drunk. One of the other lovely thoughts he shared with us was that he thought his wife used the babies (he has 2) as an excuse not to do the housework! Sooooo glad I am not married to someone like him!

tree, dog, MM and any other guilt-ridden mamas - one of my friends said a really good thing after her baby boy had fallen down the stairs and spent the night in hospital being monitored (was fine though) - she said, 'I was absolutely wallowing in guilt, but then I realised I couldn't be a good mummy to R if I was feeling guilty, so I decided to stop'. Strong emotions and people getting angry at each other are part of real life, so it's good for kids to experience the ups and downs of loving relationships I think.... I have memories of my Mum losing it with us (more Dad than us kids I think!) once in a while and either locking herself in her bedroom (the mild version), or driving off to her home town to stay with her friends for 3 days (the more extreme version!). She was and continues to be certainly the best and most loving mama in the world!

pat I'll be keeper of the enormous baby then! Or should that be enormous post.... sorry!

Chef my OH has been an angel too... but i am V.lucky, with all his matches at the moment, and not being able to 'indulge' 48 hours before a game, its actually physically impossible- so i am off the hook for a little longer!

Routines good to see i'm not the only one who got hung up on a routine with their first. and dog Lol at melting at anything inorganic - i think thats me! :-) Esme tried some Youghurt this morning, surprise surprise some of the Rachels (co-incidence, or what!) ORGANIC () First youghurts. seemed to go down well!

Dog Enjoy park- Sounds lovely.

Tree You are TOO hard on yourself, PERIOD! You are just like My OH- your own biggest critic. Put a stop to that mrs.... you are a brilliant Mummy! x

Just been whizzing around clearing up while Esme napped..... One of OH's Team mate's wives and their little 2 yr old girl heading over. Very lovely..... She's bringing her wedding pictures too! yay!

ps if it helps with any BLW worries, I also have the BLW book and it says don't expect any food to go down for even a couple of months - you only start at 6 months so that by about 9 months they might start getting nutritional benefit from food. This is one of the advantages of BLW over spoon-feeding - they don't get full up on carrots so still have plenty of room for milk feeds. Am excited to start. The book is good. Didn't realise for example that I don't need to just start with one meal - can just let Nye join in whenever I eat. Will have to start eating better myself now! No more cheesecake for breakfast for example

Morning

Mad, mad chaotic morning here. Dd had porridge for breakfast in a suction bowl with two spoons that I kept loading for her. She really enjoyed it but boy what a mess! Twas a straight in the bath job.

My bum has only just hit a chair for the first time sine 8 am and I am exhausted.

We were just about to go for a walk to the park, when the sky went black, the heavens opened and there was a huge thunder storm. Have taken it as a sign and put the walk off until tomorrow.

Its our 17th wedding anniversary tomorrow, have just made dh a card with 3 hearts (one for each child), 17 silver stars (one for each year) and an iridescent butterfly (meant to symbolise our future). Have also got all the stuff in to cook him his favourite breakfast, veggie sausages, whole earth baked beans, potato farls, poached egg ang chestnut mushrooms and a bottle of his favourite beer to have in the evening. We don't really do anniversary presents, although I sometimes bake him some shortbread or flapjack as they are his favourites.

Right, its taken me so long to write this post that its no longer morning. Better go and make the lunch before dh gets home.

Moose Do you find if you let them use a spoon (as i did with Esme's Youghurt this morning, hardly finger food) that they seem to put it in a little far whilst getting so excited chewing on it? There were several times she made herself Gag. Will she Learn? Ditto on the just sitting down since 8am- Pooped! Card sounds lovely & wonderfully thought out with different symbols.

I ordered Esme a Sophie the giraffe after one of the NCT girls recommending it. Its only been here a few hours, and shes already mezmorised. Is able to squeak it herself, is chewing away on it, and shaking it around wildly. Looks like will be the new toy for on the move. Hardly can take the jumperoo out with us