June09: the one where we learn to type with one finger

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Hi all and welcome to our first post-natal thread! Nappy's, colic and burping OH MY!

Come join the conversation as our baby's grow and grow.

Well done ineed on your progress with Slimming World.
I'm not following a particu.ar program but trying to be careful since i have 2 stones to loose to get to pre-pg weight and 3 to loose to be at a weight where I can buy the cothes I really want!
I'd lost 4 pounds, put it back on and then lost 2...back and forth (it's the bread and the biscuits!) I need more discipline really.

Hello all

Been to see my little niece this afternoon, it is so funny seeing her and Alex together, he looks huge!

I too am starving, no way I would forget to eat sadly!

You know I just cannot remember what any of you have said I have read it all... my mind is a blank. Grrr.

Will try -

June - I'm fine, no mongolian marks here just stork marks, which are fading but still very visible at times. I'm sure they will go in time.

Tee - Your poor dh! Lol. No idea what is happening with contraception here, I keep forgetting mini-pill so maybe it will have to be a coil. I had the implant June and it worked very well but I kind of felt it affected me in a weird way. Basically I got it when I had a bf, we split not longer after and I just did not fancy anyone for like two years, then we I got it out, bang, I fancied about three guys in a row! I'm sure it is just in my mind but I felt like it kind of restricted my emotions in that way... I know that is ridiculous but... well, it's hard to explain.

No period here choccie, well done with all those kids, and ironing bigcar?! I take my hat off to you, I cannot be bothered with that. So glad dd's school uniform is polo shirts not shirts!

Naat - Well done keeping your cool with visitors. My sister in law poor lamb has not managed to do so. Apparently MIL was being rather annoying round there last night, not leaving and more, and sis just walked out into bedroom. Luckily MIL is so self-absorbed that she won't think it had anything to do with her!

ineed - Well done with the dieting! I may have to start that soon but I'm putting it off for the moment. It is my jelly tummy that really bothers me, I think sit-ups may be the only thing for it!

Phew, I think that is all I can manage now, hello to everyone else!

june BCP = Birth Control Pills.

ooh, thanks for that clarification Tee
Well, I finally wrote my birth story, it's very long and boring, slightly bitter and probably not a enjoyable read but it helped me come to terms with it!

Phew, been cooking, packing and washing all day ready for visit from DH's parents and aunt and uncle tomorrow then off to my parents to stay the night and to Edinburgh on Mon morning.

June will catch up with your birth story as soon as I can!

Tee and lots of other people - sex, jeez, I'm so not in the mood but do feel sorry for DH. Must give it a whirl and I'm sure I'll enjoy it once we've got going

Someone mentioned return of periods - I was b/f both my DC when menstruation returned - when DD was 10 months and when DS was 7 months (I wasn't expressing for him whilst at work so that must be why I didn't hold off the periods for quite as long). Really hope they don't come back any time soon.

Won't have time to post tomorrow and not sure if I'll get online on hols, so have a good week everyone xx

Hey ladies wonder if I?ll manage to post tonight before MN goes down for maintenance! last night DH and I took the DCs to a Reggae festival on the beach for a few hours, it was very mellow and a lot of fun

Silkcushion ? I liked the photo of you, you look friendly hope Megan sleeps through tonight for you, it?s hard getting up for both isn?t it? The thought of a coil makes me wince; hope the pain stops soon for you. I remember when we put DS in his own room, I couldn?t sleep without him there well done fitting Eleri into the nighttime routine, I am struggling on that front; Aaliyah wants to be fed just as DS is going into the bath with DH so it means I can?t help DS in and out or dress him for bed like I used to DH doesn?t think he could cope with Aaliyah in the bath too either. Mornings are a little easier for me. Don?t get down about your weight; you?ve only just had a baby! When do you go back to work? Is it not possible to carry on with BFing? They have to provide somewhere to express and fridges in the work place now. That said, I worked for a law firm and know that they would never have done that.

Ermintrude ? the body is very clever isn?t it? Have a lovely time in Edinburgh

Choccie ? wow what a woman 7 kids single handed! I would have been worried they?d mess up the house after the cleaners had cleaned it (great perk ) have a fabulous holiday! Sorry to hear about Elina and her jabs I am dreading Aaliyah?s on Monday, I hate the way her face crumples when she is upset

June ? no blue birth marks here but a few stork marks, my DS had the same ones and they?d faded by 6 months but do creep back when he is angry or tired. Our library gave DS a free little teddy bear in Scotland sorry to hear about the rats, ugggh! I am on the Costa del Sol, near Marbella. I?ve decided to give Aaliyah the PCV but not the rest so it?ll only cost me 240 euros mind you, here is Spain you are meant to receive 2500 euros when your child is born but there are so many hoops to jump through that not many people get the money. We haven?t been residents long enough to get it? next time! I got a BCG for DS in Scotland because I asked for one. They did it at the hospital where he was born.

I read your birth story; thanks for sharing. I hope it makes you feel better to have got it on paper. Of course having a healthy baby is important but so is your experience as it affects you so much emotionally. There are some really exciting parts that you?ll be glad you captured I am still annoyed for you that they sprung it on you so late that you couldn?t have the baby at the birth centre. I am also outraged that the MW wouldn?t let you use your TENS machine what she took away was also your confidence. I know what you mean about being told about rules only when you had broken them. That happened to me so many times with DS; I got told off for taking him into the loo with me (he was crying and I was bursting) and for taking him into the corridor. I got a bad reaction to DS?s name from the MW too (he?s Xavier).

Tee ? I found with DS that as long as I had 3 consecutive hours of sleep a night I could cope but anything else was a disaster, hope you get some good sleep soon. LOL at your thwarted intimacy attempts!

Bigcar ? I am hungry all the time too and haven?t drop any weight for a few weeks LOL at your DH trying to scare the kids into coming indoors!

Naat ? it?s lovely to have visitors but it is also lovely when they go home again. Wish I?d counted to 100 and not said all the things I did to MIL when she was here

Ineedmore ? well done on the weight loss and hope the potty training continues to go well, how old is your DS?

Hi Littlesarah

erm have a nice holiday :D

naat small things irritate me too... bil eats for 2, very fast and does not wait for people to finish their plate in order to help himself to seconds and thirds. (very bad manners in my opinion). As a result we all get indigestion because it's like a flipping race!!
If I counted to a hundred every time a visitor (ie ils) irritates me I'll just end up being completely silent .
Both sil and bil were on hols for 3 weeks and it's been bliss not having anyone come round (bar people who have actually been invited!).
We've spent some proper quality time gong to the park, doing stuff together and not worrying about clearing the table straight away cause we know no-one's coming.
Now they're back and I'm gutted. I told dh they come too often but i don't think he registered it, I heard him ask bil to come over tomorrow, I hope he doesn't mean to the park for our picnic, I was really hoping this would be just us! and I have plans for after for all three of us, baby massage and a bath... I don't think I'm being weird or difficult. They both ran out of money on holiday as well obviously and it won't be long before they drop hints, like they've got no money to put petrol in their car. .

let's think positive, nice day out in the park tomorrow.

After a fab night's sleep on Friday, DD decided to wake every 2 / 3 hours again last night and I'm bloody knackered..... grr....

I've got to have a smear mid-september and they take swabs too so I can have the coil fitted. Been reading on here about some of the negative side-effects of the Mirena, so thinking I might have the copper coil instead. Going to talk it over with the doc when I see her to discuss options.

No nookie here either - when do you have the time? When DH comes to bed at midnight having put DD to bed, I'm so bloody knackered the last thing I want is action.... mind you, it might help with the insomnia.....

June thank you for sharing your birth story. I smiled through some bits (eerily similar in parts to my experience with DS) and was at others. I hope that you come to feel more positive about the labour in time. Though I didn't have a CS with DS - he was ventouse and forceps in the end and they were prepping me for theatre when the final yank of the forceps got him out. Because the forceps damaged his jaw, he couldn't BF and I blamed myself for a long time. I was also left to my own devices a lot afterwards and couldn't get people to help. It's not to say you can't BF another baby (something that I worried about). I'm nearly 11 weeks into BF DD, and it's going really well. It helped me come to terms with my 'failure' to BF DS. At least I know it was circumstance and not me that meant it didn't happen.

I would seriously think about writing a letter of complaint about your care post-delivery. It sounds shocking! Even if nothing happens as a result, the more people who voice their complaints about it, the better. Hopefully things will begin to change for the better.

Off to Ikea to get a bed for DS tomorrow, he's now escaped twice more. Once I caught him in the act; right over the top I honeslty throught he'd be in his cot until he was 3. Guess I need to think about a lock on the outside of his door now

Aaliyah slept 10-7 last night, what a star

hey ineed thanks for reading it, I didn't think anyone would it's been so long!
I've tidied it up a bit and added a bit about breasfeeding at the end.

Another two persons who had cesareans in my group also said their epidural were not successfull (one of them only worked on one side.)

mrsmc Happy bed hunting! Did you post the chicken recipe, I missed it?

Just been to the park and had a lovely afternoon listening to the band there
Knackered now and off for a nap...

Hello Juners!

Let's catch up!

June, hope you had a wonderful picnic and baby massage with DH today ALONE! Oh, I would find your BIL annoying as well I do think you're more patient than me on that, tbh, as I tell DH things very honestly and "make him get the hint" so that he can intervene... I'm very Monica in certain things and just neurotic in others It's tiny things like that that get to me... FIL and wife ate toasts right off the toaster with no plate Now, that wouldn't be too bad if afterwards they wouldn't just take the big bits and threw the rest to the floor The same with crumbs on the table and we have carpet, so nice hoovering job for me tomorrow FIL would wake Mila up when I had specifically begged to everyone not to so that I could eat first before having to feed her, cue Naat holding and feeding Mila while eating with a spoon with and nonetheless getting some rice over Mila or directly not being able to eat until later even though she was starving, for example, when we had fajitas . I have hundreds but won't bore you with a rant They've left today but will be back on Wednesday evening as their train to London leaves Thursday at 2pm. Some more examples to gather then The reason why I count so much is because I don't want them to feel unwelcome or go back to Arg saying we weren't hospitable, etc.

I read your birth story and it made me cry... June, my whole heart goes to you, sweetie. I've learnt many things with the whole pg-birth experience and one of them is my deep shock at the way some MWs or staff make (yes, make) women feel. I am shocked at some of the things you say you went through It's great that Ineed shared her experience with you so that you know and rest assured second or third births can be completely different. A huge (((hug))) for you, June.

Mrsmc, I can't believe he's climbing out of his cot already! I know nothing about toddlers but wow Happpy cot hunting Great night's sleep Aaliyah!! One happy mummy we have today

Ineed, great night the other night for you as well, hope it resumes after last night's bump on the road. Great weight loss, btw!

Ermin, have a great time in Edinburgh!

LittleS, hi! Don't worry too much about catching up! Tee will come and tell you off if you stop posting because of that

Silk, hi! Hope you got to iron AND get some loving action as well yesterday Little action here. As Ermin said, I should also get going, poor DH if not...

Tee, LOL, poor your DH. Hope your period leaves soon, I bet he's counting the minutes

Right, just the 3 of us again, at least until Wednesday. DH goes back to work tomorrow and it's dissertation closing time for me I must stop revising neverendlessly and just finish it before Aug 31st as I have to submit it at the beginning of September.

Cloudy here today but can't complain as we had sunny weather all week

Today there was a special blessing for Mila at church It was very nice and she behaved really well when the vicar held her Phew!

Hope you're having a nice Sunday, Juners! (((waves to all)))

Hehe naat crumbs on the floor!!! I'd be tempted to just tell them where the hoover is .
People who wake my baby up drive me up the wall, they clearly don't know how long it just took to get her in that state! or how hard it is to eat with a baby in your arms and no hands free!!
I know what you mean about the counting, these visitors are like messengers aren't they. Everything you say/do will be repeated to everybody back home with their own twist on it. Same happens to me with visitors from France. Better be nice ;)
Oooh I didn't think my story was going to make anyone cry, I feel an awful lot better now and writing it did help. I know it's still got spelling mistakes and it feels a little abbreviated despite the length, but oh well... I never pretended to be a good writer ;)
Almost every woman I have met and talked to about their recent birth have had some kind of experience that has made them feel rubbish somehow or loose their confidence or cry. I don't think my feelings were uncommon.

Yup we were on our own and had a really brilliant afternoon. Got back home and all had a nap as last night was difficult sleep-wise so baby massage and the bath have been cancelled for now!

take care!

hiya all seems i have missed out on a lot of developments and chatting but Sarah been keeping me very busy in a good way
Last Thurs i put Sarah on her belly for some play time and she rolled onto her back, i was one proud mummy shame she hasn't done it again soon. I have changed her formula yet again to Aptimel 1 which seems to settle her so much better and she is giving me more pooey nappies which I am thrilled about!

I had a couple of frights last week with regards to pnd as i was taking anxiety/panic attacks when Sarah would go into a fit of crying. She stayed at MIL's on wed night and my mums on fri night and I feel so much better now and feel capable of dealing with Sarah when she starts scraming so feel like a brand new mummy
I went for my 6 week check up (which was actualy 7 week lols) and was told I have an infection down below so on anti-biotics for 1 week, but i noticed a lump right between the top of my right leg and pelivc area which is killing me so hopefully that is what is causing the infection and it will go away soon. Going for the implant on wed afternoon, does any of you guys use the implant and if so what is it like? I was on the pill before falling pregnant, reason for not going back on the pill is i would end up forgetting to take the damn pill lol.
Sarah going for imunisations on thurs so dreading that, thank god DH is off too so he can help me with her. It is also Sarah's Christening/Baptism next Sunday which I cannot wait for, so as soon as I have photos I will post them for you all to see

I am sorry for not keeping up as much as I would like and I hope everyone is well and loving every moment with their babies x

gonna get on for a proper post later on as have health visitor coming today for caelans 6 week check... Just wanted to say lauraloo, that lump sounds like a swollen gland which will have swollen up to help fight the infection, it will prob go down after a couple of days of abs! Glad you are feeling better x quick question, am I meant to arrange my 6 week check up with the gp, or is it something which is generated automatically? I'v not heard anything. Speak later!

hiya amy I had to arrange my own 6 week check with my GP I would give them a call if I were you. Thanks for the reply re: lump the pain is still very sore but hopefully it will calm down soon Hope Caelen's check goes well x

worried my 6 weeks check up, baby check up and 1st immunisations were all sorted for me by the midwife who came to visit home after discharge from hospital.

Laura It's good that you got help for a couple of nights, sleep really really makes a difference. Dh does it for me every now and then and it keeps me sane.
I hope your infection clears pretty quick, mine was fine after 5 days of antibiotics, it's pretty powerful stuff!!

We've had a couple of blessings at the church so far but I really want to get a move on with the christening. It'll be Christmas before you know it and I really want to do it this year.

Are you guys having some kind of celebration with family for the christening?
We'll have some family round for food & drinks at ours or at the godparent's (so this summer and bbq would have been perfect but time's run out now!).
Some greek people really go all out and rent a hall/food for 200 guests etc, I don't think I could cope!
I would like to keep it very small (10 people).

Baby sleeping, maybe I could have a shower and wash my hair!!

june we've hired a hall for family to go to afterwards, my FIL is a caterer so no worries about food there It is the norm with Catholic Baptisms here for the mass, ceremony then somewhere for the 'reception'. I have invited around 110 people but then it's family I haven't seen for ages, or family I only ever see at funerals so thought to have something big so it is a happy occasion that we meet for his time

Morning Juners!

Worried, I guess it changes from place to place, as I got mine sorted by my GP surgery. Give yours a call just in case

Laura, wow, nice reception you're organising there Hope your infection clears soon xx

June, In Argentina some families go all out as well, others just have a small reception at home. My dad will be here for Mila's so it's us + the few friends we have here Glad you had a nice afternoon yesterday with DH and LO. Hope Calypso allowed mummy to have a shower Oh, and you're right, once you have visitors they then become story-tellers back home

Oops, Mila woke up, back later!

afternoon all

struggling to keep up again

june, thanks for sharing your birth story. I'm pretty appalled for you, doesn't sound like anyone there has even heard of the NICE giudelines, so much for promoting bf after cs that really is rather they could at least have offered to cup feed so you stood a good chance of establishing bf if that was what you wanted. Are you considering putting in a complaint? They are also supposed to provide you with the opportunity of a debrief if you think that would be useful, you have to ask though, they don't automatically offer and there isn't a set time limit, just when you are ready. Your day out sounds lovely, must have been lovely to catch up on some sleep

ermin, have a fab holiday

MrsMcJnr, have fun shopping, we got dd3 one of those junior beds from ikea and she loves it! We've also got a stairgate over the bedroom door as she likes playing in the bathroom

naat, I've also spent a few meal times feeding Edward and dropping food in the process, one thing us women aren't designed for

tee, your poor dh, sods law isn't it

laura, hope you're feeling better soon

worried, hope your visit goes well today, give the surgery a ring, I think they all work differently

dd2 and ds1 slept in the garden again saturday night, they were desperate to do it agian last night but as dh has to be up early for work and didn't fancy the sofa again they were back in their own beds! Edwards spots seem to have finally gone at last! Must get round to getting him weighed this week, haven't been for a while.

waves to all

Hi All

Um, Adam just went down. In his Amby. For the night?!?!?! At 9pm?!?! I am either going to get a lot of sleep tonight or he is going to wake up in an hour and never resettle...

Sounds like everyone is doing about as well as can be expected!

Here's to good nights for all!!

We?ve put Ikea off until tomorrow. A friend suggested removing the base of the cot and putting the mattress on the floor so we have gained about 10cms and it seems to have done the trick.. for now DS was livid!

Aaliyah had her injections today poor mite she was sleeping and got an awful shock, she has been a bit out of sorts since but is happily sleeping now

June ? whoops brain like a sieve I promise to post the chicken recipe tomorrow (post it stuck on forehead ) I?m so sad to hear most women you have spoken too had a bad birth experience. I count my blessings all the time that I have had two such hassle free births. We had a big party for DS?s christening at a restaurant but we are having Aaliyah?s at home. One of the big deciding factors is that we have Xavier too and he?d get bored at a restaurant for hours.

Naat ? I?m with you on the toast, DH does that and it drives me insane must be lovely to just be the 3 of you again

Lauraloo ? a roll from Sarah superb. Aaliyah rolls from her back to her side but not beyond yet. Sorry to hear about the infection; hope it goes quickly. I have swollen lumps under my arm at the mo, I think they are a sign that I have been doing too much, hope they go away soon. Maybe I shouldn?t ignore them? Good luck for Thurs and have a lovely time on Sunday

Hey Worriedamy hope you have your appointment now.

Bigcar ? that?s a very good idea about the stair gate, I was considering a lock on the door. Mind you, DS might scale the stair gate!

Tee ? fingers crossed he?s down for the night

Hi Juners!

Wow, it's so quiet here

Mrsmc, well, you've solved the problem for now at least let's hope he doesn't crack this one too I've never put Mila on her belly now that I think of it... I'll try that today Glad Aaliyah settled nicely after her jabs, I'm dreading them! Mila has got her BCG on 27th August and the 8wks jabs (although she'll be almost 11wks) 1st September. I hope it's not too much too close

Tee, hope Adam settled for the whole night at 9 I didn't have a bad night here, Mila slept from 11.30 till 4 so one happy mummy here

Bigcar, LOL, they've really liked the idea of sleeping outside, haven't they? I'm also going to have Mila weighed this week, probably tomorrow.

RIght, quiet morning here, Mila is taking a nap. I've done some laundry already and tidied around so I'll get on with my uni work again. I'm soooooooooooo looking forward to submitting this!!!

Hope you're having a lovely day, Juners!

(((waves)))

Hi everyone!

Wow Naat, very productive morning for you!! It must be that good night you had!

Tee how was your night?!

MrsMc lol at foiling the escape plan!!

Lauraloo Caelan can roll from his belly to his back now, but not the other way round ! Don't think it will be long though, he is so strong!! You can't take your eyes off them now can you, now that they are starting to get mobile!!

ermin hope you are having a good break!

june we will prob end up having some kind of reception at a hall after Caelan's christening. I have such a big family!! But I don't really look forward to these family get together things... my dad left my mum about 5 years ago, for another woman who he has married now. My mum hasn't met her yet (don't blame her!!) but it is unfortunate that the first time she does meet her will either be Caelan's christening or our wedding. So either my dad doesn't come, or there will be a kick off!! My mums family are a big irish catholic family, so all very close, and protective of my mum. That, plus alcohol, will only end up in a load of mither

bigcar Caelan has finally got rid of all his little spots too, yey! He had quite a few on his face to start with, and then he had wuite a few on his back and chest, but they have all gone now! Its nice that your los get on well enough to go in a tent together in the garden! I think if I had done that with my little brother or sister when I was younger, it would have ended in arguements, fighting and tears, and we would have been in the house by 9 o clock! we all get on a lot better now though!

Well Caelan had his 6 week check yesterday, he now weighs 9lb 14ozs (yey!!) which is another 5ozs since Thursday! Still on the 25th centile though, looks like thats where he is going to stay! He is 57cms now which is 75th centile, and considering he was 50cms when born, it looks like all his energy is going into growing length ways instead of width ways!! His head was 38, which is bang on the 50th! The health visitor was very impressed at his neck and head control, and very impressed he can slither along on his belly holding his head up!! He is one very very strong boy! When he doesn't want to sit to be winded, there is no bending him!!

Do I need a 6 week check up?! I dont fancy being poked about again, I thought I wouldn't have to worry about that for a while! Do they do an internal?! not keen! And I have never been to this doctor before with only just moving here, so not familiar with him, and dont fancy having to go through all the details of pregnancy and labour because my notes won't have been transfered or something like that . DP uses the practice, and alarmingly they have no medical records for the first 7 years of his life , they have a very old system there, no computers etc etc, so I am pretty sure that any visits I have at that GPs will just go missing anyway!

Can't remember who said now about the health visitor asking probing questions about pnd... mine was the same yesterday! 4 times she asked me if I was eating properly, and threw in a 'so what did you have for your dinner today' halfway through a different conversation, as if to catch me out! Also asked me if I am getting out and going for lots of walks , how long I am in the house on my own for, what DP does to help me, when he leaves the house for work in the morning etc etc. She was quite alarmed that DP was out from 7am til 9pm all of last week, especially with me not knowing anyone around here. My dad came up last Friday though and cut the grass for me which was nice, and my mum and sister come up once a week also.

I'm sure there was something else I needed to ask you all, but I can't think of it just now!!

Hope you all have a nice day xx

Hello all

I can't possibly catch up as well behind. My aunt and cousin have been visiting (lovely) and my stepson is here for two weeks (great help actually). The full house is nice but tiring.

Interested in what you are saying about lying on the front. Fraser is a big baby and reflux, sickiness etc has meant it hasn't really worked until now, but now he is awake for longer stretches and after the sickness passes, he just looks like a beached whale when I put him on his front. And he looks a cross between indignant and desperate!!

Any tips on better starting positions. The Book recommends a rolled towel under chest but that hasn't really worked.

june - did just read your birth story. Poor you honey. Reminds me of the hell of my first three months (after birth - birth was fine). The amount of rum advice I got was unbelievable. And naturally being a first time mum I took them all so seriously and killed myself trying to make DD better. Only when I had Fraser did I look back and realise I was deeply traumatised by it all for about a year afterwards and in a certain way, really had never got over it. Only when I had Fraser was i really able to bounce back to who I was before and move on....if that makes sense.

mrsmcjnr - hows things in the mcjnr household?

Better go. Washing still on line at 9:45pm and a baby about to wake methinks!!

Too depressed after another horrible fight with DH to write much tonight how can someone who tells you to ?shut the up? in public love you and respect you? I am really feeling heartbroken tonight as things are really going down hill. He is out for the second night in a row.

Naat ? glad you had a good night; it makes all the difference

Worried ? I remember now that my HV in Scotland had quite a go at DH sometimes for not helping enough, I wonder if she fancies a trip to Spain! your little boy sounds wonderful

Daisy ? DS hated tummy time until he could really hold his head up and look around turtle style. Hope things are better with you than with me on the adult relationship front