June09: the one where we learn to type with one finger

[Tee2072]

Hi all and welcome to our first post-natal thread! Nappy's, colic and burping OH MY!

Come join the conversation as our baby's grow and grow.

oh tee so sorry to hear this has happened but glad that Adam is going to be ok. As others have said please don't beat yourself up too much about what happened, i know it is easy for us to say but he is so young he will never remember what happened. Sorry to hear about social service involement, but like you said at least they do report these accidents where you are.

Please take care and keep us posted on how you and Adam are xxx

Hey tee, you poor poor lady! These things are so awful, I am glad wee Adam is okay.

When dd was about 8 months I left her sitting on the sofa to go and make a cup of tea, could still see her the whole time but turned just in time to see her tip forward off the sofa. Urgh! Was so horrible! She didn't go to hospital but I felt awful for months! The main thing is your wee man is fine.

Very of your photos choccie, that's fab!

Oh dear Tee, what a scary accident. Glad Adam is OK and am sure he won't hold it against you - it'll become one of those family stories you wish people wouldn't tell. A friend's 2-wk old DS fell asleep on his daddy's chest on the bed - daddy also fell asleep, forgot baby, rolled over and splat! baby on hard floor. Similar A&E visit and observations and no harm done, but no more sleeping on daddy...

choccie the photos sound lovely - an expert with a v fast shutter is what we could all do with, their expressions are so fleeting and so sweet.

LittleS I salute you for even considering writing a research proposal with a newborn!

silk sounds like baby is trying to build up supply - my big boy feeds a lot in order to get enough milk in and it's working but does take time. Sometimes he just goes from one side to another, 15 mins each time, for an hour or more. This happened with my other two as well. It all settles.

June Food is definitely a priority over hygiene with a newborn! Mine would all have sat in a pool of their own poo quite happily as long as they were getting their milk. And anything getting between them and their milk - like a nappy change - would not be tolerated
Hope your headache improves soon - without another epidural preferably!

One more week of pat leave and we're making the most of it - chilling out mostly but a few duty calls like registering the birth and taking baby out in the car for the first time. Don't know what I'll do when DH goes back to work - not fancying being up and ready to take DS to school as well as deal with Arthur, but I managed last time so will hopefully muddle through.

Crying - I'm still doing it a bit, at anything sad related to babies, and even shed a tear for Andy Roddick because he looked so devastated. That's taking sympathy a bit too far, I fear..

Hey ladies how are you all today? My MIL and SIL arrived last night and seem delighted with Aaliyah. They are not staying with us but in a rented place ? phew! MIL is being treated for depression again I hope her stay with us didn?t bring it on will catch up now?oh, question, how on earth do you get baby poo out of clothes?! I?ve forgotten

Tee ? you poor, poor thing, how awful for you. I am so glad to hear he is ok. Thinking of you all. I worry so much about dropping Aaliyah and DS, our floors are marble and very unforgiving. DS fell off our bed when he was 9 months old, it was awful, luckily he landed on pillows but my heart was in my mouth.

Bigcar ? Aaliyah has exactly the same stork marks as my DS, on both eye lids, between the eyes and at the back of the neck, I can?t remember when DS?s facial ones disappeared but like your DD1, I can still see the back of neck one vaguely. Thanks for the reassurance on the weight Aaliyah gave Daddy her first smile today, I think it was a smile and not wind I feel like you do, the weeks are just flying by, far too fast

June ? sorry that your birth experience has left you with so many questions, I hope the other ladies can help you answer them I got a copy of my birth notes from DS?s birth from the hospital, as Bigcar suggested, it might be worth you doing the same. I didn?t have the trauma you did but it did show me that some half wit in the hospital couldn?t work out kgs to pounds and so when I was stressed and obsessed with DS?s weight for weeks because he had lost so much it was actually partially because he had never weighed his birth weight to begin with, they were 5ozs out which is quite a lot in a new born! Hope Calypso enjoyed her coffee and cake my HV with DS was a gem, I adored her. I change Aaliyah mid-feed and she seems to like that better than before or after. How is the migraine?

Naat ? I only have tanned arms hon, the legs are always shaded by the buggy and the least said about the midriff the better! Thanks for your kind words on the DH and subsequent babies issue, I think I am becoming a bit obsessed with worrying that he won?t let me have more. Sorry to hear you have been crying hon, me too, over silly little things ? it?s the hormones! Well done on that trip home from the airport!!

Zozokat ? sorry to hear about Leo?s colic. Hope the GP can help.

Ermintrude ? thanks for your wise words, I will heed them I have been thinking about your BFing advice and how it should be like a pump, it has helped me try to improve DD?s latch, thank you

Hello Llynnnn how are things?

Littlesarah ? sounds like a fun day at the beach with the Bro in laws I know exactly what you mean about the leaking, after a shower, no matter if before or straight after a feed, I have to lean over the basin to put my bra on when I am still wet everywhere else so I don?t get covered in milk, really hate that. Hope you get your proposal done

Silkcushion ? sounds like Eleri is heading for a growth spurt!

Choccie ? those photos sound fab, they will be family treasures!
Have to take DS for an injection in the morning he knows now what they are and cries as they come for him, I hate it still this should be the last one for a few years.

another day of a very munchy baby here. think erm might be right about her building up my supply - certainly getting more off when expressing now.

think dd1 is accepting her new lil sis now - she even got a kiss goodnight

tee - thinking of you and yr little boy

feeding as i type

Sending you huge sympathy and hugs Tee, poor poor you. Another dropthebaby anecdote to (hopefully) make you feel better: one of my brothers dropped my baby brother in Asda car pack, straight onto the tarmac at only 2 months...cue lots of tears in A&E (from us, not the baby). He was fine and is now a perfectly horrible unemployed 18 year old

Ishbel was wide awake from 9pm until 5am last night...just constant grazing on the boob, then a windy grumble, then lots of frantic leg kicking and noisy dummy sucking but NO SLEEP!!! I ended up putting her in with me and managed two bouts of 2 1/2 hours, which I can't complain about.

Well my weekend of babyfather's family has finally drawn to a close - and it was all fine. Ishbel is so lucky that she has so many people who adore her and I don't feel so threatened. Poor babyfather is a little overwhelmed and unsure of his role but we had a good heart to heart...oh got to go...more later...

Hope Adam's home today, Tee.

Only got 1 hour's sleep last night.... so tired I could collapse in a teary heap. Got to get through the day with a toddler on a showery day........

Morning Juners,

Quick post before Mila wakes up.

Tee, glad Adam is doing well, hope you managed to get a full night's sleep. Keep us posted.

Loouise, oh Ishbel was on a high, huh? Where do they get all that energy from??? Sometimes I look at Mila and think "aren't you knackered??!!, well I am so let's fall asleep soon" Hope you got a better night last night. Oh, and glad the wkend with baby father's family was smooth

Ineed, you poor lamb! I really hope you have a calm day today. Do you have any help available today? Any grandparent who can take DS for a few hours? (((hug)))

Silk, glad DD has "accepted" Eleri How's the nipple healing?

Mrsmc, you don't fool me, you're tanned!! How have these days been? Will you get a bit of help from your SIL? I don't ask about MIL as you say she's having some health issues... Hope these days are a bit better for you. Is it still scorching over there? Oh, I had no idea how to get poo out of clothes, but my mum used to put them to soak for a while with some soap/non-bio detergent, then take the stain out with a washing brush and then put them in the washing machine. It works but I have no idea if that's the usual way to do it I can't believe they didn't tell you Aaliyah had to see a paediatrician! Glad you're seeing him tomorrow.

Ermin, oh, so sweet you still have one week pat leave! DH went back after 3 days as he had to take additional days for the "fun" trips to London Enjoy them!! at your lovely tears for poor Roddick. He did look devastated poor lamb... and he played really well. I can see your Sunday was also full of tennis

LittleS, hats off to you, woman!!! A proposal with a newborn and a DD!! Hope you get it done on time Oh, the leaking!!! It's not enough to fill bags, like you, but it's definitely enough to make me jump back into the shower once I thought I was done Yes, I miss my mum, she was brilliant during her stay, really mellow and she helped loads, oh well...

Laura, hi! How's Sarah? Are the wind issues gone? Yesterday Mila seemed to have some trouble with it... but after a few minutes of heartbreaking cry she passed a lot of wind and made a big poo

Choccie, oh that photo shoot sounds absolutely brilliant!!! So happy for you! Do let us know when you get the pics!

June, lucky you Calypso cries only if you change her before the feed! Mila screams no matter when you change her I'm REALLY hoping she grows out of it... Hope the migrane has gone away by now... So it would only go away with ANOTHER epidural.

llynn, hi! Glad you had a nice day under the sun!

bigcar, hi! Loved your description of a HV

Zozokat, so sorry to hear LO is having acid reflux I know the baby whisperer said it helped to put the babies a bit inclined, not flat on their backs when they sleep and not to move up and down with them when burping them, as that worked as a cocktail glass.

Hi to all Juners!

Right, my first day without mum or DH so let's see how I manage! (terrified emoticon) My Health visitor is coming at 10 and then I'm going to the baby cafe with Mila as she's still playing too much with one of the boobs . This evening we'll drive to London so as to process the baby's passport and we'll come back tomorrow.

Anyway, hope you all have a lovely day, Juners!

(((waves)))

Had an hour's sleep on the sofa while DS watched Cbeebies quite content. Feel a bit more human now!

WRT poo on clothes. I soak in Napisan and hot, hot water. Then I scrub, then I wring the clothes out, spray on some Vanish spray and wash as normal. Any persistent ones I resoak with Napisan and this seems to do the trick. If the vest is too full though, I do just chuck them away....

Hope this helps
x

Morning ladies!

Quick post from me, as not sure when my little time bomb will go off - put her in the cocoon to sleep, after having let her sleep on me for a bit. She just loves to sleep on us, but we are trying to get her to sleep in the moses basket or the cocoon for the pram.

How are we all going? Am reading every day, but usually have 1 hand free at most, so find it v hard to post.

BF continuing to be a nightmare, and sadly have virtually stopped and she is almost exclusively FF. Feel v bad about this, but am off to see someone today, as have convinced myself that the antibiotics I took for my lady snip have given me nipple thrush - nipples hurt during and after breastfeeding (liek for 12 hours following) and are so sensitive can't even have a towel brush against them. Also, they don't look dry and fresh after a feed. Why is something so natural so hard and painful?? Now I just want to work out what's wrong and re-introduce BF mainly/exclusvely.

Tee - you poor sweetheart, that could have happened to any of us! Delie does these horribly fast and violent sideways movements that have almost seen me drop her a number of times, amazing for such a little baby! I accidentally dropped my much younger brother twice when he was about 9 months old (rollerskating while holding a baby is a big no no!!), no injury to him and the trust was still there.

Ineed - God, tough day w 1 hour's sleep! Hope you can get someone to help you!

LittleSarah - you are signing up for your PhD? I doff's me cap - you are hardcore!!

Loouise - lovely to hear things are working out well w babyfather, imagine its a potential minefield, but sounds like going well. Must be gorgeous to see him so smitten w Ishbel.

Ermin - love the photos of your DCs - what a beautiful bunch of DCs you have!! See you are still dispensing wise advice - God bless you!

June - sounds like your birth experience was quite traumatic for you, am sorry to hear that. I 2nd the advice to speak to someone about it, even if its just to give you "closure". Delie will not permit nappy changing pre food. We tried that once.

she is stirring - hello to all you other lovely Juners!!! I will continue to lurk and then post as and when! xxx {VERY unMN!!]

morning all

tee, sending you and Adam ((((hugs)))) Another one here who's dropped a lo! Dd2 slipped out of her moses basket half way down the stairs when she was 6/7 weeks old, she rolled head over heels and landed on a pile of ironing. She was absolutely fine, I was a hysterical mess. A friend fell down the stairs while holding her ds and he broke his leg at a couple of months old. These things happen, don't beat yourself up! Hope todays tests are all ok

littlesarah, seriously impressed you're going for your phd, I'm still struggling to string a sentence together at times

naat, well done on your airport trip! Hope you have a good day today without your mum and dh, I'm sure you'll be fine. And well done on managing all these trips to sort out passports etc!

loooouise, so pleased your weekend went well, hope you're feeling a lot better about all Ishbels relations now

ermin, I'm with you on the whole school run thing, we're managing to leave about 5 - 10 mins later than usual but thankfully they make it into school on time, ok, only just sometimes but still on time! Looking forward to the school holidays in a couple of weeks

choccie, bit of luck there with the photos

MrsMcJnr, I wasn't even aware you could make your own formula milk! That first proper smile is lovely isn't it

june, hope you're having a better day

llynn, hope all's well with you now

Dd3 is slightly obssessed with her plastic mobile at the moment, Edward is spending a lot of time talking on it as she holds it up to his ear He also cuddles her dolly and looks after a lot of her toys for her, still seeing a bit of jealousy towards Edward so needing to keep a careful eye on her. The older dcs have been pretty good though, any excuse to pick him up for a cuddle

being called for a feed, waves to all

Hi All.

Love the title of the new thread-- which is why I haven't posted for a while, as was finding it a nightmare ti type!!lol

Tee Saw your post on FB as all the others have said- its happened to many a parent!!! Me included. Glad he is ok and keep us posted- please don't beat yourself up anymore you've done enough already xxx lots of big hugs from us Timms lot xxx

Congrats to Worried and Ermin fab names- my next door neighbours boy is a Cailan as well-- although different spellings xxx

Had Rupert weighed today-- now a whopping 8lb 5oz ( birth weight 7lb1oz and lost lots when he was poorly) I feel quite pleased with myself as its mainly me-bar one formula feed at night- Sorry for the gloating- but BF with the others didn't work as well. lol

I've been having a few battles recently- mainly with DS1- hes been having a few behavoural "issues" mainly not doing as hes told- so constant yelling and me pulling my hair out and the worst thing- hes taking to pushing other kids-- not to the point where there fall- but I'm finding it so embarassing, The parents in question have been great- but at some point I'm going to come across a not so nice one. We have put it down to all the upheavall of me being in hospital and Rupert being so poorly, but its taking its toll on me a bit. My general reaction to it all is telling him of, taking his prized toys of him, not giving treats. Spending as much time with him when Ruperts asleep, etc, but its so hard. Hes generally a good boy, as a 3 year old is!!! Any ideas anyone. I hate shouting etc, so at a loss and get upset, as its not all his fault- IYKWIM.

Today at clinic he was fab- I promised if he was good, and didn't run of, or push anyone- he could choose some sweets from the shop-- he was really good and kept my promise, and praised him constantly. So he can do it. xx

My other problem I have is smoking!! With Ruperts problems, especially his lungs and the fact we nearly lost him- I'm paranoid about smoke around him- my Mums the only smoker and had a discussion with her- and said, as the Drs advised, noone should touch him for a least half an hour after their last one!! I caught her holding him shortly after smoking a cigarette, my next door neighbours smoke and it comes into our house- and last week it meant I had to keep my back doors and windows shut, one as it makes my house stink and 2- is it going to affect Rupert. I hate confrontation My mum has bipolar and when we have heated debates-she blames me for her overdoses, so I avoid such discussions with her like the plague- but when it comes to Rupert I need to be strong for himMy next door neighbours know how poorly hes been and although I can't tell them not to smoke in their garden, it would be nice if they could do it away from our door ( we are semi detached ) So any advise on how to handle this. I'm an ex smoker- so know how difficult it is- but I want to protect Rupert ( perhaps I'm just paranoid!!!) HELLLPPPPP I know you lot are all wise xxx

Apart from my whinges and being knackered, I'm loving being a mum of 3 and sure all these concerns will be short lived.

Sorry for my longwinded post-

Hope you are all well xxxxxxxx I've missed you xxx

MrsMc Glad the pump analogy helped; I find it useful to remind myself of from time to time. It's easy, when they start to drift off to sleep, for the nipple to slip to the front of their mouths and so they start just sucking it which is painful and makes the nipple raw. I think of expressing, and how it works by squeezing the entire nipple and aureole so that milk is sent down the ducts, then creates a little vacuum which pulls the teat outwards and sends the milk out to fill the space.

If this doesn't make sense to anyone, try putting your little finger into baby's mouth, nail side down, when s/he's rooting. The suck you feel comes from the soft palate at the roof of the mouth and not from the lips at all. That's where the nipple should be, pointed right at the back of the throat, while baby's lips are open around the whole nipple.

silk good to hear DD is taking to her little sis. They'll end up best buddies

looouise I hear you on the all-night feeding! This morning DH woke up and found me feeding Arthur and he said - Oh, so he had a really long sleep then, that's great! I had to point out he'd slept through the four earlier night feeding frenzies

Naat How did the first day on your own go? I hope the baby cafe was as lovely as it sounds, and that you got to talk to some other mums and chill out. Boo to going to London AGAIN! We took Arthur out in the car for the first time and it was fine when he was put in asleep but when we came back he was awake and screamed all the way home, poor lamb. DD used to find it soporofic to be in the car but looks like this baby is as bad as his brother who also used to scream until he was a good few months old.

Ineed no wonder you're tired; no sleep and a 15-stage washing process to get poo off clothes . I think I wait for it to fade naturally after several washes

Bunnymother I hope you get some useful advice on the feeding and can built it back up again. Thrush on the breast is awful and you can't keep putting yourself through pain. Re sensitivity - my nipples are really sensitive and I don't like them to be touched. They sting at the first bit of feeding too, but not very much. If I remember, this sensitivity reduces over the weeks and becomes much more manageable.

bigcar Sounds like DD is interacting with Edward, so even if jealousy occasionally rears its head, she's interested in him and 'sharing' her toys with him, which has to be good.

effie good to hear fro you. That's great news that Rupert is thriving and putting the weight on.

A bit of bad behaviour from older DS is completely normal, but of course you don't want him to get a reputation as a rough boy. I haven't had this prob, so no specific thoughts, but if you're trying to carve out some time to spend with him and keeping a close eye on him when he's with other kids I hope he'd stop doing it gradually and naturally. Incentives rather than punishments? 'Now, if you play nicely with little X and Y I'd like to give you some milky buttons/tv time/a sticker/whatever.' And if he still behaves badly a quiet but firm refusal to give him said treat and an encouraging 'but as soon as you manage to play more gently it's there waiting for you.' Hard with a 3 yr old but I think they can understand those parameters.

The smoking issue is really difficult- I'd hate to live next door to smokers as am hyper-sensitive to the smell but it would be DC I'd be bothered about. You can't ask people not to smoke in their own house and garden, I guess, but a quiet request for them to avoid doing it near the boundary might be in order, if they're reasonable people.

Very sticky situation with your mum though - you must set down the guidelines which are only to protect Rupert, so if she won't comply you'll have to 'police' her around him a bit more (I can imagine you having to have a big sniff of her before handing him over ).

What a long sleep Arthur is having! And DH is cooking tea. Might not get such a good chance tomorrow, so waving to everyone now xx

I am exhausted. Still not sure if his ribs were cracked, he needs one more XRay in about 3 weeks.

The really good news is that Social Services doesn't even need to come by. They apparently spoke to all the docs/nurses/etc who interacted with us and Adam and all agree it was nothing but an accident.

I'll try to catch up after I have some dinner. Lunch was a lousy hospital sandwich ages ago!!

I missed saying that he is home!!

Uber quick post from me re the delightful topic of removing poo from baby clothes...

If you wash the the poo off w a brush and water (we have a special dishwashing brush!), then spray w stain remover and throw in the wash (Fairy non bio) w some Vanish. None of her impressive poo has been able to withstand this!

Bad evening here both DC crying since 7pm, both needing me and getting cross when I didn't attend to them, DD wanting to feed all night - result = frazzled, hungry Mummy with no milk DH was out playing football and is now in a huff because I'm frazzled how come it's my fault??

Great news Tee hope tomorrow is a much better day x

MrsMcJnr - I feel your pain. Sat here after two nights of feeding all night. So sorry to hear DH is back to his unsupportive self.... grr

Well officially freaking knackered at the moment. Willing Emily to sleep doesn't seem to be working.... another appointment at the cranial osteopath tomorrow.. cross fingers we see some improvement. She screamed for only 2 hours this eve... a mild improvement on the 6 the night before...

My friends had a MC last night at 9 weeks . Puts my knackeredness into perspective....

Ineed and MrsM - for you both. It will improve remember (let's hope it's soon)

Tee Glad Adam is back!

mrsmc, I hope you're keeping your spirits up despite dh's behaviour and dc's needs. Did he go more into details about what he doesn't like about spain anymore that he's been thinking of going back to Scotland? Maybe there are things that can be changed so you're both happy.
Re: Appaling support from the health centre there for you I felt discriminated against in the recovery ward and I never felt like that ever before. It really brought me down.

Effie dh smokes and I have the same problem if they smoke outside and leave the kitchen door open or the upstairs window.
I have to remind him to wash his hands, change his t-shirt etc as he can't smell it. As an ex-smoker I know that they just completely don't realise how much it stinks and how quick and far it travels.
For your neighbour I would ask them extremely politely and do a very english thing and profusely apologise for the inconvenience to them (even though they're the ones poisoning your air) and ask if they would mind terribly trying to smoke further away so the smoke doesn't get to your little one because of his health problems (ie not putting the blame on anyone or judjing them for smoking iyswim). Can the health visitor have a word maybe? Or tell the neighbour that you;re vrey embarrassed about it but the health visitor told you to have a word and dropped a leaflet round for you. (there are leaflets about second hand smoking effects, she/gp might even be able to give you one).
Can you set up a smoke detector outside that will set off everytime they smoke too close? Because they might well apologise and try not to smoke there for the first day and then forget (another side effect of nicotine I find...). The smoking has been a big battle in our house. I started banning in in the house the minute we were trying to get pregnant. Interestingly the problem has not been with DH but with visitors who were used to smoke round ours and literally do not come round as often because they can't smoke inside. Sil was another one who was really annoyed about it. .

Another one who is knackered here, I read somewhere the worst of the crying is around 6 weeks old. Calypso hasn't actually been too bad crying since we started infacol (when do you stop it?) but it's hard to decipher what she is crying about once she'd been fed and changed.
How much do your little ones sleep? I usually feed her, then we do something like sing/read a book/stare intensely at a screw ;) then we put her to sleep for around 2 hours before the next feed. she'll fall alseep in my arms but then wake up the second we put her down in her basket though so she doesn't actually sleep these two hours at all.

We gave Calypso her third bath yesterday, she utterly hated the whole thing (it must have lasted less than one minute all together.) She then really enjoyed the foot rub dh gave her and was all relaxed ready to sleep!

FF is a big load of fuss, baby will stir so we start making a bottle then either she'll be full on screaming cause she needs feeding NOW and the bottle is too hot so she has to wait OR she'll stir and we cool the bottle down in some ice but then she goes back to sleep so the milk is too cold by the time she actually wakes up. .

I can't even start thinking about what it would be like with two or more children right now.. I have to get myself some contraception (does the pill takes around a month to start working properly?) Not that we've had any action, just planning in advance!

I've almost finished my medicine now so I'm thinking of getting the pump out, I'd be so proud if Calypso had any of my milk at all. It's only been 2 weeks maybe it's not too late. I thought I was over it as felt good for a few days in a row but I was in tears yesterday again while feeding her. (happens everytime bf is mentionned during the day I think.)
The migraine seems to have gone, very happy about that. Now I have a cold sore again, I haven't been able to cuddle properly or kiss Calypso pretty much since birth. And I don't think they'll go away until I get a proper night sleep (in a few years??)

Right well it should be time for a feed but both dd and dh are fast asleep...(and the bottle is getting cold!) I can try and wake baby up or grab some more Zzzz...

Take care juners!

So glad you've got your boy home again Tee .

Effie I think June's advice on dealing with smoking neighbours is very good - you need an ex-smoker to really understand the situation! Anything which gets them to avoid smoking near your LO without making enemies of them has to be worth a try.

MrsMc and Ineed here's another baby who doesn't get night time at all. Between about 11 and 2.30-3am all he wants is to feed. Last night I woke DH and just said 'I've got nothing left, can you take him away?' so snatched half an hour's kip while DH walked screaming babe around the house till he'd calmed down. Then another hour of feeding before he dropped off and woke at 8. Grrrr! As silk said, it DOES get better, but it's bloomin' exhausting in the meantime.

June are you working on getting your DH to stop smoking? My SIL visited on Sunday and kept going out for a fag in the garden without being asked, but stank of the smoke when she came back in. I think if she knew how strong the smell was she wouldn't do it but we rarely see her so I didn't mention it. Your SIL is a more regular visitor, I think, can't believe she'd be grumpy at your completely reasonable ban!

Arthur hates baths too - we keep them to a minimum. When she's a couple of months old in all likelihood Calypso will start to love them but for now they're just basic hygiene to be completed as fast as possible.

My sis gave me a huge box marked 'Breastfeeding Essentials' which she'd filled with mini choc bars, luxury hot choc drinks, haribos and biscuits, plus a copy of Heat and Closer mags. Perfect pressie! And actually could be renamed 'Baby feeding essentials' because although her theory is about giving me the strength to produce lots of milk (for which you need LOADS of chocolate) you bottle-feeding girls have to use up all that energy making up formula and heating and sterilising so would make just as much use of a box of goodies. Mention it to a few friends and see if they take the hint and go wild in the Pick 'n Mix for you... .

hiya everyone sorry not posted in a while.... tho just spent 20 mins typing a post just for my computer to crash [anrgy]

Put Sarah in her second bath this morning and she was ok. She hates being on her back in the water but as soon as i supported her head and put her on her belly she absolutely loved it! Think I will try putting her in a bath at night-time to see if this helps her settle better.

WRT to sleeping Sarah has been great (sorry to those not getting good sleep) She has a feed around 9 or 10 then sleeps until 2.30ish back to sleep around 3is then up at 6-7 for another feed then back to sleep until 9ish.

Sarah still likes to hold onto her wind but the infacol seems to be helping. Couldn't stop laughing yesterday, as she was resting on my arms she started letting out a series of farts and the smile on her face was so cute and you could tell how relieved she was to get that out her system, very immature on my part but really couldn't help but laugh

june i have been thinking of using a pump to express milk to give to Sarah. at midwifes tho as I mentioned about using a pump and they told me not to as it would begin to start up a milk supply, the amount I have been leaking over the past 2 weeks would have been good amounts to give to Sarah esp for the nutrients in the breast milk. Does anyone think it is too late to express for Sarah or should I give it a go??

tee glad to here Adam is home safe and well, I hope you are keeping ok xxx

big hellos to everyone else Sarah is screaming house down for feed to better go, will try and catch up with everyone take care xx

2 quick questions girls:

do you wash nipples before a feed to remove excess lansinoh?

anybody notice slightly green tinge to poo after giving infacol?

thanks!

Hi All.

I knew you'd come up with some fab advice for me. Thank-you and will give it a go.

I spoke to one of the pre-school teachers about Flynn and she reassured me that he's not the only "pusher" and it by no means a thug in the making and infact he's generally a sweetie!! So very pleased with that- perhaps I'm expecting too much of me and him to behave. We had a fab walk to pre-school- and he never ran off-- so lots of praise was given and big hugs and kisses. I think it will only last a while and when we are all in a routine- i'll have my Flynn back xxx

June the way we do the FF is we sterilise bottles, Fill with cooled boiled water and leave out on the side at room temp then add the formula when its needed- then you don't have to re-heat, as you can give it room temp so instant FF-- happy abay and parents. Hope that helps xxxxx
ps Hope it makes sense aswell xx

Thanks again xxx