June09: the one where we learn to type with one finger

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Hi all and welcome to our first post-natal thread! Nappy's, colic and burping OH MY!

Come join the conversation as our baby's grow and grow.

Oh MrsMc, so sorry things are the way they are for you at the moment Have you got a friend who can come round and help you out, or just sit and talk with you if DH is out? If he is behaving in public like that, and obviously isn't bothered who sees him disrespecting you like that, maybe there are deeper issues there? If he doesn't care how people view him, I would imagine he doesn't really have a high opinion of himself at the moment?? I know that probably doesn't make you feel any better though

Oh,MrsMc - So sorry to hear about your troubles with DH. Thinking of you lots xx

mrsmcj to answer your question...he can't, sorry. I think its time you tell him to shape up or ship out. Or grab your kids and go. There is no excuse for treating you badly and there is no reason for you to take it.

Morning Juners!

Daisy, nice to read you again Glad your stepson is of some help at home . I'm in the same situation you are in wrt the rolling over thing. I put MIla on her belly yesterday and she could put her head up and look around but she got annoyed after about a minute and I had to change positions Hope little Fraser is doing better with his constipation and reflux

Mrsmc, oh I'm so sorry you've had another rought day, sweetie. It really sounds as if he's having some problems with himself and the way of releasing some stress/pain/sadness/anger is by just talking without actually thinking Thinking of you, sweetie. xx

Worried, hi! I hope your silence re.BF these days means things are going great

Ineed, hi! I read on FB you got your car! Congratulations and enjoy!!!

Hello to all the rest of the Juners!

Right, today FIL and wife come back from Scotland in the evening. We're having dinner at Argento's so no cooking planning to do, thank God. They leave tomorrow at noon. After that, reaaaaaaaaaaally looking forward to my dad coming on 2nd September. It's been over 2 years since I last saw him.

Hope you're having a lovely day, Juners! Hope to hear soon from many of you who haven't been able to post lately Hope you're all well

xxx

xpost! Tee, hi! Hope you're well

mrsmc can anyone you know have a word with him to see whatt's going on? That's not really normal behaviour of someone happy.It does remind me of a time where dh and I were "disconnected" though he was never rude to me, it just seemed like we weren't on the same wavelength anymore. That was years ago, when our relationship had just started though.
What Tee said is also the advice I would give a friend of mine if I knew she was deeply unhappy and had tried everything. I've not done counselling myself so not sure how it works.

Mil's been coming round and has (temporarily) stopped the crazy talk, still doens't look very mentally stable to me...
I still find sil annoying. Maybe I'm just jealous that she loves our baby daughter so she feels she can come whenever and bounce her around hold her all the time and I feel bad when I ask dh to tell her not to come so we can be just "us". I just don't want to see her everyday, is that mean?
She think she knows better re: looking after babies and just ignores us when we tell her "not to bounce the baby" or "hold her more straight" etc... irritating...

well...C went to sleep at 11pm and woke up at 7:30am! I hope this lasts, it's NICE to sleep a few hours in a row!
I gave her a bath followed by a baby massage today and she's been sleeping again, letting me catch up on some work! (and MN)

I'm off to mothercare when she wakes up to go try that bumbo seat. I think she'd look very cute in the pink one.
Latest picture here

june very cute pic! I want to take Caelan to baby massage too. They also do tummy time classes at the childrens centre, I think he would like them. Great nights sleep for you!!

Naat Great news that you will be seeing your dad soon, you must be really excited! Bfing is better, I try to feed without the shields at least once a day, and Caelan still seems fine to swap between the two- the only worry seems to be that he is not opening his mouth quite as wide. It is very tempting to just use the shields all the time! The only downside to them is that they seem to be making Caelan a bit windy, because they ruffle a bit around the outside. I try to hold the seal down, but I can hear him taking in a bit of air with the milk. Have ordered the avent ones from mothercare, so hopefully they will be a bit better!

It is very quiet on here the last two days!! I have nothing new to read on my phone while I am feeding at the moment!!

MrsMc how have things been today?

june if my MIL didn't listen when I told her to not bounce my baby and to hold her properly, she wouldn't be holding her at all. Period. I have actually taken Adam out of his grandmother's arms when I didn't like the way she was holding him. And I'd do it again. She's your baby. You do what you need to to protect her.

naat I'm doing okay. Off to the office tomorrow to show off my little man!

mrsmcj I hope today is a little better.

mrsmcjnr - that is heartbreaking to hear. He does seem to be in a really ugly place right now. No one deserves to be treated like that....particularly right now with all you have to cope with. I told my dh that there would be two periods of three months when he just needed to smile and keep quiet about what he was thinking....the first three months of pregnancy and the first three months when the baby arrived. But surprise, surprise, he cannot keep a lid on expressing his every thought and so it is I who ends up smiling and not saying what I am thinking!!!

But seriously, is going away for a month to family an option? Do you both need some time away from each other? Or maybe that kind of thing wouldn't work for you?

naat - how lovely to see your dad soon. Yes, Fraser lasts for about one minute. For the live of me, I cannot remember what I did with dd three years ago. I do remember we had the same problem.

Thank you ladies, I have read and am digesting your very helpful comments. Today is no better; in fact he did it again, in a cafe. I was so embarrased I'll be back tomorrow to chat.

mrsmcjnr sorry to hear the trouble with DH has risen it's ugly head again. Although it is harsh i do second what tee said you need the support from your other half and if he cannot provide it maybe you need to have some time apart. The time apart may show him how much he really needs you and his children in his life, he may be under a lot of stress and this is how he releases it. I hope that today was a better day for you...thinking of you lots x

amy glad to hear that BF is going better for you

june WOW for Calypso sleeping for that length of time hope it keeps up for you and your DH...and she is so beautiful

tee enjoy showing off Adam to your work tomorrow, I saw your FB message about your DH changing the 'poo machine' I must admit my DH has been great with changing dirty nappies which I was not expecting

naat Hope you enjoyed seeing your dad...i'm sure he loved meeting Mila too

daisy nice to hear from you again and hope Fraser is doing better wrt his constipation and reflux.

hello to the rest of the lovely juners I know I'm missing a lot of people.

Well 2 nights ago Sarah screamed for 2 hours then slept for 6. Last night she settled straight away but woke at 3am and stayed awake until around noon. She didn't scream or cry last night she just thought it was playtime. She was laughing away while her two extremely tired parents were struggling to keep their eyes open lol She is sleeping now so going to try and wake her at 10.30ish for a feed to see if that will keep her through the night...fingers crossed. I am absolutely dreading tomorrow as it is time for her imunisations at least DH is off so he will be with us too.

I got the implant in today and kinda regretting it already, wish i went back on the pill which I knew and was comfortable with, reason i didn't choose pill was i was worried i'd forget it some mornings whereas i can just forget about this implant for 3 years (which is perfect as thats when we're going to try for a second baby)...i'm sure implant will be fine just worred about the side effects like weight gain

mrsmcjnr xpost...sorry to hear it was no better today if he is making you feel low maybe you need time on your own. TBH if it was my DH doing that to me I would have told him to sling his hook ages ago, i'm a bit of a hot head when it comes to DH embarassing me. I really do hope for your sake and your childrens that the sitution your all in gets better soon x

Hello ladies!

Its been sooo long since I have posted, and of course I don't know where to start... As usual, lots of v supportive, encouraging advice and it sounds like so many of us are going through similar things w our babies. The little darlings really are tricksy, aren't they? Just when you think you have them sussed, they pull out more surprises...

Delie is thriving, but is doing a bit much evening screaming for my liking. I think she gets overtired but I can't easily get her to sleep during the day anymore. Very of those of you w little munchkins that sleep through the night, although am getting longer stretches.

Some food for thought for those of you keen to do this all again asap - at my 6 week check up the Dr suggested waiting at least 6 months to restore stomach muscle tone as well as pelvic floor muscle tone (do I even have a floor anymore??). If you don't recover before re-stretching, apparently you may never get that tone back again and it could lead to ... leaking urine . Delightful. Needless to say, am waiting 6 months!

Gosh golly haven't we all had fun and games w the visitors. I hope I learn from this and never descend on new mothers and disrupt things because I want the newborn experience - sometimes its just plain rude and so many of us (me inc) have had to endure this. I have almost bitten through my tongue and it sounds like I am not alone!!

Also sounds like I am not alone in my struggles to shift the baby weight. The mirror is hardly a source of comfort. Perhaps I will think about that extra hunk of cake when I am pregnant next... In the meantime, am moving my knackered self around the park these days, but I think its time to up the ante and gulp an espresso and start running. Worked for Sly Stallone's wife. But then, so did fake boobs .

MrsMcJnr - I have been reading your posts w sadness. Am so sorry that you are carrying such a load - effectively sole care of 2 little ones and troubles w your DH. I can only encourage you get some counselling so you have someone to help you find your way through this. Of course you know your DH is behaving unacceptably, but a counsellor may help you work out how you respond.

Not sure I need to inflict an essay on you, but wanted to "stick my head around the door" and say hi there to all you lovely ladies!! waves

Morning Juners!

Bunny, soooo glad to "read" you again Good to hear Delie is giving you longer sleep stretches. Oh, I'm waiting more than 6 months for sure I admire women who can cope with a tiny baby AND a bump... I'm still learning how to manage a tiny baby and house chores xxx

Laura, it was my FIL and wife who were here last week and yesterday My dad comes in September. LOL at LOs wanting to "play" in the middle of the night Fortunately Mila wasn't on that mood last night and she slept from 11.30 to 4.30 One happy mummy. Hope the jabs go OK and Sarah doesn't even realise she's getting them

Mrsmc, Oh sweetie, so sorry to hear about yesterday. I think Bunny's advice is very good. Do you think you could go to a cousellor (even if it's just you) to help you with all this? You don't deserve this, honey, you need support and love I hope you have a good day today. Go out with the LOs or meet a friend for tea/coffee/ice tea. Thinking of you.

Daisy, LOL at not remembering how you did it with DD It's not uncommon, though, I hear that from many mums... I remember reading here when we were all pg some Juners asking about ctx and me thinking "well, surely they know by now?" Sorry to hear you're also biting your tongue at home sometimes... I've had to do that a lot lately and it's not a good feeling, is it? HOpe Fraser is feeling OK

Tee, awwww I'm sure they'll drool! I remember some of your colleagues were not too nice (when you left) but I hope they behave today... if not!!

Worried, soooooooooooooo happy to hear BF is going better I know, the seal thing is tricky with such "wriggly" babies You can tell when they are taking wind and I usually take her off after some minutes and burp her (and she usually burps like a sailor! ) Fortunately she doesn't seem to have a problem with that I use the medela ones and I really like them... a friend of mine one gave me a (new) mothercare one that she had (as I had forgotten mine at home) and I can positively say they suck! The material is not the same, the quality is not the same, and with a wriggly Mila they don't last intact more than 10secs Let me know how the avent ones are.

June, looooovely picture, she's gorgeous! Glad you had such a wonderful night's sleep! Oh, I sympathise on the SIL issue. She does sound a bit odd, to be honest. And I totally agree with Tee, if she didn't get the message first time, I'd make sure she got it the second time, or the baby is off her arms! I really don't care what people say about me re. the baby... I can be paranoid, a ball-buster, whatever... You know your baby like no one else does, so why would anyone try to teach YOU about YOUR baby? Hats off to your patience I have no problem telling DH these things but then again, we don't have family close, only now as they've visited but after that, it's just us. Can you talk to DH and maybe tell him to back you up a bit more firmly when she does this sort of things? I realised this week that when I told FIL something I didn't like (like taking pics of mila with a flash at 5cm from her face! ) he then went on doing it but then I told DH to tell him next time he did it and he stopped Although yesterday he tried again and his wife told him off You'd think by now he'd have got it!!! Grrrr...
Oh oh! I'm getting a bumbo seat as well! I saw some on e-bay that look interesting

Right, FIL and wife leave in a couple of hours. I went and had Mila weighed yesterday and she's 5.100kg (bigcar, I promise to look up the lb equivalent in my red book ) Now that the visitors will be gone I'll start giving the new reusable nappies the first of the 4 washes we need to give them before they are OK to use.

Hope you all have a lovely day!!!

(((waves)))

Jeez MrsMc - I don't know what to say. There are only so many excuses you can give someone for being in that way. How long do you grin and bear it before you have to do something to protect yourself from all the hurt? I know that if you were my best friend I'd be telling you that you needed some space to sort out how you feel. Is there any way you can do that? Is there any family that you can stay with?

Was all set to go on lovely morning walk round RHS Wisley. Packed a picnic and everything.... however the dark grey clouds put me off and now it's pissing down....

Bunny - Our kids sound exactly the same. Evening screaming and a nightmare to get to sleep in the day. Have you tried white noise? I have a CD I can send you which a play loudly in the room for day naps and it completely zonks out DD....

DH is off on a rare night out tonight, so it's just me and the kids.... mm..... I think I'll have earned a rather large lie-in tomorrow....

Love to all xx

Sorry, should read 'Jeez MrsMc - I don't know what to say. There are only so many excuses you can give someone for behaving that way'

hello everyone

I've been reading your posts with interest but it's hard to keep up.

Polly is now 10.5 weeks old and has just passed the 10 lbs mark. She is a star - since we put her in her nursery to sleep she now goes down at 7pm and sleeps through til about 4.30 am giving me a decent night.

She does seem to have had her fair share of ailments despite me breast feeeding her - urine infection (on anti-biotics until November), stapholocochal (sp!) eye infection, and is now vomiting lots. She also has to have a scan on her hips as she didn't quite pass her 6 wk MOT with flying colours.but she is a cutey.

Anyway just checking in to say hi and hope everyone is ok. sounds tough MrsMcJnr. Hope you ok.

afternoon all

ineed, no rain here yet, don't think it will be long though. It'll probably wait until we are ready to go shopping! Hope you get that lie in

naat, had Edward weighed yesterday too, he was 15lb 14oz which I think is about 7.2 kgs!He's a real lump solid little man Hope the dissertation is going well

bunny, so pleased Delie is doing well

laura, hope the jabs went ok and you got a little more sleep

MrsMcJnr, sending you huge ((((hugs)))) and hoping you find a solution of some sort soon, that kind of behaviour is too much.

tee, hope you had a good time showing off your little man, he is after all a real cutie

worried, so pleased bf going better, tummy time at the childrens centre sounds good, it's not something they offer at ours.

june, lovely photo, what a cute smile your little lady has

daisy, I'm also struggling to remember what I did with dd3 3 years ago, I think she may have liked being on her tummy, Edward on the other hand doesn't. I just keep trying him everyday so hopefully he'll get used to it. He does tend to flail around a bit, it would be quite funny to watch if he wasn't getting upset.

Dd3 isn't well at the moment, she's had a bit of a cough which isn't uncommon for her, it's gone onto her chest this time so she's on antibiotics. She's also lost a whole kg in weight in a month, she can't afford to lose any weight either, she's all skin and bones

I can't believe some of us ladies are considering another lo already! This is of course while I'm trying to forget the 15 month gap between dd2 and ds1 Bunny, will you be the fist

Hope the sun comes out tomorrow, hoping for a day out on the coast. Waves to all

Hello again!

Can you believe she is playing on the playmat and I have a minute at home to myself?? Red letter day!

Gosh, some of your babies are really growing - Bigcar you may need a bigger car to hold Edward! I better not be fisted! but I just may be first, who knows?

Ineed - what a kind offer! Do you mind telling me where you got that CD and I could look into it? If its easy for you to make a back up copy and send it to me for, err, safekeeping, then if you FB message me I will send you my address. BUT I know we all are VERY busy, so you can just say where you got it from and I will look into it...

Naat - that bumbo chair - is it meant to be good? I googled and wasn't sure...

Help - poor baby Polly, I hope she gets better soon!

June - Calypso is just gorgeous! What a cutie! I have struggled to capture Delie's smiles, which are becoming more frequent and just melt my heart...

Blossom is grizzling a bit so I better go and encourage a nap before it turns into hysteria !

hey naat got a pink bumbo seat today and Calypso is loving it!! I took a pic here

It's exactly what we need for our holiday though it is a bit bulky for travelling, not even sure it fits in our suitcase to be honest! It'll be perfect for France anyway since we're driving there.

bunny Hehe, I have to take loads of pics in order to get one good one ;)

quick check in from me. No idea where the time is going - almost another week has flown by.

Have been painting my dsd's room this week (finished the en suite last week). it's not just painting it's sorting through a load of crap at the same time. We've only lived here for 3 years fgs. How does it build up?

MrsM - sorry to hear about yr problems with dh. With my exh I eventually got pissed off with having to justify to myself and everyone around us his appalling behaviour and lack of respect. So I woke up one morning and told him that we were splitting up. He was relieved and agreed and then it was very amicable. I had a sudden realisation that people treat you the way you allow them to and I simply wouldn't allow it anymore. I've never looked back. However, we didn't have children (let alone two tiny ones) so I know it's not that easy.

Bumbos - can't remember who's after one but I've got one someone can have if they like. A sort of turquoise/blue colour.

xposts June - what a gorgeous picture!

Hi ladies!

Silk, it was me, I think, apart from June, who was looking for one. If you don't want yours anymore, we'd be happy to buy it from you Let me know. Wow! You've been really busy! How have you managed to do all that with two LOs is beyond me Hats off to you!

June, looooovely pic!!! What a gorgeous smile!!! Hope it fits on a suitcase and you can take it with you.

Bunny, hi! Awww how lovely Delie playing away on her playmat I heard the bumbos were good, some Juners have used them in the past (Daisy and Ermin, I think ). They are supposed to be esp. good for introducing the sitting position but not fully sit a baby right away, it sort of "helps" them and gives them the support they need?

Bigcar, wow! That's great weight gain! Sorry to hear DD3 has not been very well, hope she gets better soon HOpe it's sunny over there tomorrow. Today we had a bit of everything here

Help, hope Polly feels better soon, poor little lamb.

Ineed, hi! That CD sounds fab! Do let us know where you got it from Hope both LOs go to bed smoothly tonight and let you rest, taking into account you'll be on your own.

Nice walk with my tranlator friend today along a canal near here. A bit of rain and wind but nothing serious Her LO is doing really well, she was operated on last week and is recovering impressively quickly, doctors are really surprised at the speed of her recovery. We're so happy for them!

Got to go, I'm going to do the second wash for the nappies now. They dry really quickly! Two hours after their wash + spin they were dry! I'm liking them already

Have a lovely evening, Juners! and a good night's sleep to all!

evening all

just a quick post while Sarah is sleeping...going to try and wake her for a wee 'top up' feed at 10.30 to see if she'll go thro the night. Sarah got her jags today and apart from a cry when the needle went in she has been fab
Spent most of my day seeing my town become infamous with the release of the Lockerbie Bomber saw my house on BBC News 24 lol that was the highlight of my day.

june calypso looks great in that bumbo seat, i'm actually considering getting one for Sarah

I hope everyone has had a fab day and will do a full catch up tomorrow (hopefully)

Hi All,

As usual have been reading but struggling to keep up, read trough last night but then A woke for a feed so didn't have time to post.

MrsMc really to sorry to hear how you're not getting the support you need. Remembering back I think this has been grumbling on for sometime now and it can't be just written off as him struggling with the new addition etc. I agree with whoever said counseling for you (and him if he will attend) so you can talk through your next move..... just out of interest when he does tell you to shut the f**k up what do you reply? what wold happen if you challenged his behaviour there and then??? (I don't want you to write answers here just think about it, it may give you a few pointers??)

We've been having an active week this week DH is off on leave so we've 'done' the beach (we rarely go even though it's 10 mins away ) the aquarium, bike riding, and next week we've hopefully got more to do.

On the down side DD2 has grown a nasty bug on her chest (a proper nasty) which means at least 6 months of nebulisers (horrible mask like having oxygen for 20mins twice a day) and probable Iv antibiotics again. Had a realy low period yesteday evening and insommnia this morning but feeling a bit better now the dd's are all up, have a consultant appt this pm so will have a full action plan later. Thank god A is fairly chilled..... not looking forward to the next few weeks one DH goes back to work as it's going to take me all morning to get the dd's sorted with a preschool run in there aswell and then dd2 has a nap in the afternoon so I'm wondering when I'm going to be able to get out and do stuff at all .

Anyway enough of the me me me, i promise I will try and reply a bit more to all your posts next time.

x Doris