May 09 - weather and jabs = hot cross babies

[Momino]

hope i'm not duplicating

I know - it's not nice. The sooner you can get an appt the better my nipples felt like they were on fire and were red and shiny

morning

thanks for the new thread. sorry to have been MIA over the last few days. mil was down and like the rest of you grace has been v unsettled with the heat. wanting to feed all the time it seemed and in the evenings ending up vomiting it back up all over me and herself before feeding again and conking out to sleep.

just want to say how amazing you are llareggub to even begin to cope with your recent events. like you say here's hoping it'll be one of those works out for the best things. glad you and dh are feeling bit stronger too.

grumpy ow ow ow ow hope you get the prescription v soon!

quick question.. blocked milk ducts.. how do you know if that's what you've got and what do i do? my right boob has a tender bit.. no red or hot patches though.

anyone have one of these lambskin liner thingys used in buggies, car seats? one of the women at bf group uses one she says they're great. thinking of getting one mainly to use when we go to spain noticing how hot & sticky M has been in the car seat/buggy this week

also anyone know how you wash them? i assume you need special shampoo?

grumpy So sorry I forgot you in my last post. As I read it I immediately thought that it was thrush and then forgot to write it down. Does your GP do emergency appointments? If he does I think it's worth getting one, because it can make both of you feel really poorly so the sooner it's treated the better. It if it gets worse it can be very painful for both of you + it can cause terrible nappy rash for S too.

blocked ducts They usually feel like a lumpy patch that's a bit sore when you touch it. The red patch comes after a little while. If you catch it early, just massage the lump during a feed.

lambskin liners I think they must be hand wash only TBH. Do they keep babies cool in hot weather then?

Off now to do a bit more packing. I had to sort a weeks worth of washing first C's asleep in the sling. Just as well it's cooled down now or I'd have really struggled to get things done.

thanks belgian i've done as you suggested and it's a lot better.. Phew!

Morning all,

Things are much better here today, but it helps that DH is at home this morning, so i still feel like flippineck that i feel i can't cope when i'm on my own, and just want to run away. Had a difficult night with a couple of hours 1-3am when S wouldn't settle, but at least we slept in til 8.30. Used the sling this morning as much cooler today. S is happy hiccuping away in his chair just now, so I can get lunch made (hopefully). Just feel like i've lost my confidence in understanding what's bothering S (is he tired, hungry, hot, windy) and don't know what to do with him . In the night i took his swaddle blanket off as it was so hot and he was hot, but in the end, i put it back on and he went straight to sleep after struggling for a while.

I am seeing my HV next Tuesday so i will try and talk to her about how i feel.

Hi lovely new shiny thread.

llareggub Your DH is lucky to have you. We claim tax credits and I just rang the help line. My DH is on the brink of starting his own business on the side and building up. He got his first job the other day, so I'll be wishing you and your DH luck in expanding your business.

Grumpy that nipple thing sounds awful hope you have it sorted soon. Well done DD1 as a year 6 teacher I always feel so proud of the Level 5s!!

Belgian enjoy your time at home. Hope the drive is ok.

We too have been suffering with the heat. Rueben has struggled to fall asleep at night the past 2 night despite sleeping brillantly during the day adn after 11pm .
Thank goodness its cooler today although the humidity has made my hair huge!! I also left my nappies out to dry over night and they are all wet from the rain so will have to use disposables when my nappies run out today

momino thanks for the new thread

llare you are so strong to see the positive in a difficult situation. Hope this is one of those times when something bad actually leads to somewhere better than you were before, if that makes sense. About 10 years ago DH was practically sacked from what he thought would be a dream job but now sees it as the push he needed to set up on his own, and is now far happier than he was before.

pula I know what you mean about losing confidence in understanding what's bothering the LOs (see below!). Please don't think it's your fault in any way. From what you say you seem to have been 'blessed' with a difficult baby and you've been really strong to keep going. This will pass and before long you'll have a delightful little chap on your hands. Definitely a good idea to to speak to your HV. Try to keep your chin up

Me/H seem to have lost the plot when it comes to bedtime. he is fine in the day, then just hits a point of total meltdown and I can't understand why. I think it's overtiredness but I constantly doubt myself and wonder if it's wind, the heat, boredom, etc. One of the NCT girls who is doing GF thinks it's that I'm not putting him to bed early enough (currently in basket and asleep - after lots of battles - by 9/9.30pm)though the meltdown can start from 6ish, which is definitely too early for bed . He often has a nap starting around around 5-6pm too which confuses me about when to put him to bed. I have bought 'No Cry Sleep Solution' and am going to try it out. TBH it's not really any different to GF or BW in that it says you need routine but the methods are softer and more in line with my views.

Well it's pissing down with rain here, it started at 11.55am, which is the time I drop DD2 off at school .

I am feeding our friend's cat for the next few days, S and I have just been to check on her, I love my dog but I'm a cat person and she is the lovliest cat. It was a struggle not to bundle her into the car and steal her, She's beautiful and friendly. Do you reckon he'd miss her?

Thank you lovely laydeeeez for your nipple-related sympathy and not telling me to start ff'ing, which is the response I've had in RL. A slight problem with bf'ing and people start telling you to give up. It's getting worse, my whole breast is burning now, but my GP releases emergency appts at 8am and they're gone within minutes so I'll have to try again on Monday morning. It's a getthroughable pain though. I take Looby as my much-admired role model.

Belg Have a lovely weekend!!!! Bring back lots of yummy things to eat........

Dandy I keep forgetting to say I hope your appeal goes ok (although they sound like a bunch of doofussessss)

Spangle I hope you get a bedtime routine going

Febes Yes I am very proud! As far as DD1 knows, there were 6 of them who got 5s, all girls (unsurprisingly)! Her teacher is very, very proud of them (her teacher is LOVELY). DD1 had worked really hard and was particularly delighted to get a 5 in Science, which she claims not to like.....

Indulge me!!!!

Llare DH has just shown me his accounts (no, not a euphimism for shenanigans ), having spent the past few months worrying about money, I am at peace. He's finally hit continuous profit and his business is doing brilliantly. Even through the roughest times, I would not have wished him back in his own job, now I am just so very pleased for him. I hope things work out for your DH's business too, it was definitely the best thing my lovely DH did!

Morning all

spangle I've just got the no cry ss book too, it's supposed to be v good.

Grumpy hope you get nips sorted soon, sounds painful.

Sorry havent namechecked all but got a wriggly lo one my lap i need to sort out

Wow grumpy not sure I'm a good role model but thank you

can you try out of hours gp at your local hospital tomorrow?

M is v.unsettled again today. feel like I have been bf almost constantly since 6am, I have managed breakfast and a shower by putting her in bouncy chair for short periods but I really need to clean the house/put stuff on ebay/clean out chickens etc etc

might try taking her out for a walk in her buggy

grumpy- i recommend getting yourself looked at as it sounds very painful, and although you are gritting your teeth through it, the sooner it's looked at the quicker it will get better. Is it painful if you express milk too, as that might give you another option if it gets too much. I was prescribed anti-bs and thrush stuff by the out-of-hours GP over the phone so worth a call if you have a similar service. I don't think it was thrush as it stopped when the mastitis cleared up but it was good they gave me something just in case.

spangle- thanks for your support. Sometimes I do think i have been "blessed" with a difficult one too, but then just now, he fed nicely, laid on his mat, sat in his chair with little grumbling and was quite happy for 2 hours. Then i started to stress he was going to get overtired so tried to put him to bed. Then when he cried i worried he might be hungry again, so ended up BF him til he was asleep. Now he has been in his cot 15 mins but i can't relax as i feel he's going to wake up any minute. It's just very different to DS1 who was on the EASY routine, and quite often i would have to wake him up after 2 hours sleep (but can't remember what age he was then). All i know is i never went to many baby groups with him, as they were mostly in the morning and he tended to sleep 9-11.

Oh, and as for baby books, I have them all- GF, BW (2 books), NCSS... I used NCSS to wean DS1 off his dummy, I tend to ignore GF but read it now and again just to see what she thinks babies should be doing (as it has detailed age bands in it), and my favourite is the BW but even that annoys me at it reckons pat/shush or pick up/put down should take 20 mins max and I know we could be doing it with DD for up to an hour. I did use it to extend DD's 30 min naps, but it took a lot of effort and not something i could do now with other DCs to look after.

Loobs you continued where others wouldn't.

I've put a post in Breast/Bottlefeeding to see if anyone can suggest any short-term pain relievers. I'll try a walk-in centre or OOH GP thing I think, as it's annoying.

I feel bad, whining on, when others have more worserer (as DD2 would say) problems. However, I do like a good whinge........

spangle- if H is having a nap starting 5-6pm, it might be worth just fitting a bath in then to keep him awake and aim for a 7 or 7.30 bedtime? Or else just let him catnap for 20 mins and then start the routine?. I know I used to encourage DD and DS1 to nap around 5pm for 15-20mins as that would be enough to make them receptive to their bath at 6pm, bed by 7.30pm. With DD I used to go for a walk so either she was resting or would sleep, and with DS1 I used to give him a BF and sometimes he'd sleep.

Go to go, baby waking!

whinge on grumpy

well we are of out for a walk, catch you later...

Well, you'll all be pleased to know that you won't have to listen to me moaning quite as much today...I managed to get all three of us washed, dressed and out of the house this morning - isn't it mad that even a walk to tescos can cheer you up a bit?!

I have however cried twice today - once because A kicked her blanket off the pushchair in tesco and it is now missing. We retraced our steps a few times, I know I definitely had it by the salad, can't be sure whether it was still there when we got to the wine! Not at customer services, but will ask next time we're in there. Second load of tears was when we got home and realised DD1's nappy had leaked really badly in the pushchair, she needed a complete change of clothes, I've had to wash the cushion/liner thing and scrub the chair. And of course during all this A decided that she obviolsy hadn't been fed for weeks and was ravenous requiring a double-boober.

On top of all that, HV was supposed to come at 2, turned up at 1:20! felt mean sending her away but was all flustered and trying to get lunch for DD1 at the same time. Anyway, A is now 11lb 2oz, she' getting closer to the 50th centile than the 75th now but HV not worried. Also did the PND questionnaire thing, HV says I'm borderline (as I thought) and that I should see how I get on over the next few weeks; I can either go back to talk to her, or they have a counsellor that I could be referred to.

Was talking to HV about the lack of daytime sleep for A, she said that some babies are just like that! She didn't say though that it tends to be BF babies who are catnappers, and FF babies sleep for longer stretches. Is that eveyon else's experience?

No rain here yet, looks like it will soon though - arse as once again have shedloads of washing, mostly nappies for the two of them, to dry.

name check amnesty for me, please. too many to reply and not enough time.

For all you who are down, i hope you feel better with the weekend coming. Do keep a check with HV or GP if things seem tougher than 'normal' (what's normal ?). otherwise, relax with a drink (virtual or real) tonight.

thanks for the reassurance on my big birthday tomorrow. i just can't believe i'm turning 40 and . this as well as having children really makes me reflect and think a bit too much so i'm going to try to lighten up and just have a good time.

grumpy, hope your nips feel better soon (how often do you get people telling you that ?).

Belgian, have a good time.

pured down today and the 3 of us got caught in it on the way home from play group. Luckily i'd remembered the raincover for the double buggy and one umbrella which went to dd1. i got drenched and looked like a drowned rat. it's going to take a lot to make me look presentable tonight .

pooey baby screaming! till later....

flippineck lots of hugs to you but you sounds like you are handling things marvellously.

momimo happy birthday!

Just a quick post from me. So many thanks to you all again. No doubt there shall me more ups and downs here but the future seems exciting. What it holds for us as a couple actually seems stronger now, I think, but clearly we have work to do. I'm off out to see an Abba tribute at Warwick Castle tonight. I wasn't going to go but the in-laws persuaded me so I've been expressing like mad this afternoon to make sure I have enough in the fridge. I managed 6oz when G was asleep so I can go! No idea if he'll take a bottle though but at least I have back-up in the freezer nad I can pop home if need be.

another quick post as i BF. may i join those in despair? how do and how have so many mums survive these baby years with all the crying, whingeing, yelling, etc? it's really maddening and i don't think i have the patience to do this.

I had all 3 screaming at once for various reasons. sent older 2 for time out and left baby in the bouncy chair screaming and went to the loo to put my head in hands. deep breath.

it happens just when i think i'm doing well then the children must have some subconscious signal to start acting up just to keep mummy in her place.

deep breath.
i know so many of you can relate to all of this and have just posted about having tough days. are you joining in on the cocktails?

ok. i feel better for letting out steam.

Momino the loo is my favourite place to escape, although I am concerned that dd might be developing a habit of following me there...a big HAPPY BIRTHDAY for tomorrow. Did you know it's the new 21....?

Llare so pleased to hear you sound upbeat and positive. I hope you have a fab time tonight and enjoy it.

Hi everyone else. I've had a shitty week, but it sounds like so have most others! yOU KNOW, THE USUAL, CRYING BABY DOESN'T WANT TO BE PUT DOWN / TOO HOT / MISBEHAVING SH'S ETC......AND i'M SHOUTING NOW IT WOULD APPEAR .....

Reggiee calm down luv!

momi I took S upstairs for a feed at 16.30, so I could lay down, as it makes feeding from 'thrushboob' a little easier. I needed to give her a quick feed, so I could get on with tea. At the same time, poor DD2 was trying to have a cuddle with me and was trying to help me and I snapped at her .

I thought very bad thoughts. I had to put S down and just edge out of the room for a few minutes.

I have just mashed the potatoes that I finally peeled at 18.15, having been unable to put S down anywhere, she screamed and screamed and bobbed on and off and thrashed around and feel asleep for 3 seconds at a time .

It just gets too much sometimes. I'm still waitin for DH to come home, he doesn't realise how difficult it is.

Anyway, go and make yourself glamorous (won't be difficult for you, I'm sure) and have a lovely birthday tomorrow.

I'll have a Caipirinha (sp? usually drunk when I order these ) please, with a mojito chaser.