June 2007 They're (almost all) two which makes them hard work in a whole new range of ways. But just as adorable!

[JammyQueenOfTheSewers]

Unable to sleep thought I'd see what had been going on and saw we were due a new thread. Hope this is OK?

Jammy we have this book which DD loves to do.

We still have dummies here, but only for in the cot. Occasionally DD will ask to go in the cot just so she can have her dummies. Fair play I think if she is playing happily in there!

Ria,

MSG causes headaches (and swelling). Might be worth finding a chinese that doesn't use MSG.

Bumper is DD still in a cot? You are lucky, DS learnt to climb out.

very bumper that dd is still in a cot, ellen wouldnt have none of it! must be useful to be able to contain her!

bad night here, second in a row, my supply really suffered for the two days of expressing on one side, and charlie is constantly feeding all night. i am V. V. tired.

charlie got his rattle this morning, thanks guys, very intrigued as to what my surprise is

i have come out in the most awful rash today, had a bath after DH and didnt rinse it out properly and DH uses lynx shower gel. damn my sensitive skin, its really sore now

Sorry about your skin Natty

hey jammy

ive got my nan coming over today, she lives in portsmouth so we dont see her much. will be nice to show her the new arrival

wish i wasnt so big still tho lol pictures will last a lifetime!

natty. have a nice day. I wish my gran had met baggins

ria

there lots of drawbacks to having kids very young, but one of the benefits is the kids granparents (and some great granparents) are all still young fit and healthy.

my greatnan is still about, so that she is the kids great great gran fancy being that great

That is nice Natty

My nan would have been in her early 70s when I was born (I can't remember the exact year, but she was born in the last few years of the 1800s, doesn't that sounds so far away ), so there wasn't much chance of her seeing my children. Similarly, my parents are in their early 70s now. I just hope they live as long and as healthily as my grandparents did, so that Jamlet gets to build up a good set of memories.

yes, all the women in my family have had their kids young, my nan was 18 my mum 20 and i was 19, so as u can imagine everyone is quite young, and providing my kids have theirs young my nan should live to see her great great grankids too.

but then we are all broke...

And in our family is was a case of my Dad being the last of 3, then me the last of his 3. And of course I've waited quite late to have Jamlet...

So are all yours in beds then?

On the subject of Grandparents, my parent are both 49 or on the cusp of 49. My grandparents (mum's side) would only have been early 70s but they died in their early 50s so you can't guarantee anything.

DH's mum is 80, but he, at 43 is the youngest of 6 and I am the eldest of 5. My littlest bro is 11 and DH's eldest is 60 odd.

Jamlet still in a cot Bumper, but we are thinking of getting her a bed by the end of the year.

DS has been in a bed for about 4-5 months now.

Since he started learning to climb out.

He's in the bed bit of the cot bed but he'll have a proper single by the end of the year (as we will need the cotbed for DS2).

That is assuming we don't kill DS1 before bedtime tonight.

DD was in a bed.....and is now back in a cot since she wouldn't stay in the bed and we had to slide her sleeping wee self across the floor with the door to get in the bedroom a few times, bless.

Not sure when she will be trusted back in a bed.....when she realises she can climb out I suppose.

My big regret is not having children earlier as my DC don't have any maternal GPs . also, if they leave it till my agre before having kids, I'll be in my 70s before I get my first grandchild.

all three kids in bed
off to catch up

My DD is in a bed (a 3ft single) and is very good. She hasn't got out.....yet! We do have a bedguard up as well!

Went to Next today and spent £125 on clothes for DCs....got DS most of his clothes for the next year, and tons of 3-4 stuff for DD. All half price so was very .

Then went a got her feet measured in Clarkes - 6 and a half (her shoes are a 5 , so got a new pair of trainers and a pair of shoes, both reduced from £24 to £8 - bargain!

My DCs don't have any grandad's (and one nanny who doesn't give a shit). Both my dad and Dhs would've loved them tp pieces . My mum had me at 19, but I was having too much fun then!

I'm glad I had my kids young, means I have plenty of time to have more! I think my mum was 35 when she had my, my gran didn't get married til she was in her 30s, so I expect she was nearly 70 when I was born(can't work it out), she was 93 when she died though, and got to see DS1&2, so I'm glad we had that

the sun is out at last

good bargains norty. we need to do shoe shopping soon I suppose, but bagins illbe gutted that he can't wear crocsinwinter. DS2 has just shown me his trainers are falling apart. Also have to spend the summer trawling charity shops & boot sales to get "old" clothes for DS1s trip

dont regret having them later, you have stable jobs/homes/incomes etc, you can drive, you have more patience and life experiance. plus u got to have fun in ur 20's, by the time i am free enough to go out clubbing 4 nights a week i will be too wrinkly
there are good points and bad points either way.

ellen is in a big single bed now, tom and ellen have bunk beds that seperate as it was cheaper then 2 singles, and thinking for the future cos u couldnt fit another bed in the room atm. (the cot only JUST fit in there as it was)

my nanny loved him, bless her. only thing that annoyed me about the day is my mum telling her the best thing to buy for charlie is some nappies as he has loads of clothes and doesnt need toys.
um... my mum KNOWS we use cloth cos she doesnt approve...
nan was a bit put out when she saw he was in cloth today cos she knew we prob wont use them. i reassured her they would get used up as we had them, and DH is lazy so would always reach for them first

Speaking of families, we are off for a family picnic tomorrow. My Mum's extended family got fed up only meeting at funerals so about 10 years ago they started having an annual picnic in July, hiring the village hall at a village in Suffolk (where my Gran and Grandad lived) for the day and all meeting up there. I haven't seen any of my Mum's siblings since having Jamlet so it will lovely to introduce her to them

ah, but natty, I have a career that I can't afford to go back to because of prohibitive childcare costs. If I had had the DC and then got the career it would have been easier as I would have had subsidised childcare as would have been earning less and by the time I was earning more they would have been at school, so only wrap around care to consider.

Anyhoo, enough of my regrets.....I love it all really and hated my job (as well as being a bit shit at it) so it's no great loss to humanity!

I sent DH off fishing tonight so I could get some P&Q and not have him wittering on at me about fishing/packaging/sheds.

I was supposed to be at a family party today but we were all to ill to travel all that way. V pissed off to miss it, and a weekend by the beach

I'd better fricking be pregnant to make up for it, but given that I have had tonsilitis and DH has man swine flu it's unlikely. I did pretty much force him to do it yesterday, told him I'd done it all week feeling shit, time to take one for the team.

Oh god, I don't even know why I want another baby, I'm really shite at this and don't like children very much!

Ok, I'm exaggerating, but I don't much like other people's. And I HATE being pg and will probably need birth trauma counselling.

sorry you had to miss the family party bumper but PMSL at the image of you bullying your poor DH into sex: "You will have sex and you will enjoy it...or else" And you seemed so mild and meek when I met you

when can you test? you will, of course, keep us in the loop

bumble is feeding like a newborn again as well as eating everything that comes within grabbing distance, whether it's edible or not! I am fooking knackered and my boobs are like pitta breads. Is there an 8.5mo old growth spurt?

LOL at "one for the team" bumper. sorry you were too poor;y to make your famly gathering though (although at least youu don't have to have silent sex in the living room or anything)

your family do sounds lovely jammy.

DH has been counselling pissed up and depressed friend onFB tonight (hence my absence from MN, that and DCs not sleeping) friend wants to get back with ex-w, Dh says he is "doing a Peter Andre" (she did stuff too, but I took the blame for the kids sake...) sadly DH knows too much about trying to get back with ex.

am glad for you daisy that your DH is only rabbiting on about sheds, fishing and stuff.

BTW bumper, it is perfectly normal (IME) to be not very keen on OPC. (or your own at times...)

I could have done with sending DH off cooking tonight (he has been arsey all day on and off) instead I took DS2 and baggins for a walk after Total Wipeout (DS1 stayed and watched TopGear with Daddy. the shouting I don't knowe about I can't do anything about). I did jokingly ask DH yesterday if he could take 7 weeks off being grumpy. He said no (I hope he was joking too)

well, that's all I hear Ria