F(l)ab Feb 2009: Primark pants and teething rants

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A brand new sparkling thread to mark the four month mark for our bubs

Mslucy ? blimey TWO teeth!!!!

LLB ? what the 3 day rule??

Herby ? yuk to sick

MOS ? hope the car is ok

Elkie ? glad the group went well

STW ? I love 80?s music ? more now than I did at the time

Spottyshoes ? hope the hols were good even if your return wasn?t

Katie ? good news on the nanny/school front

Bumps ? hope poorly children better

Coco ? we moved dt2 into a bed (needed the cot) it was hell (better now though) dt1 is staying in her cot

Dinky ? hope you are enjoying Suffolk

PT ? jabs sorted yet?

I am shattered, what with Luke waking in the night, Jack liking early mornings, Erin constantly whining and James asking so many questions, I don't feel like I can even wee in peace!!

oooggs Hiya. All ok? Aart from being shattered that is?
The 3 day rule where you don't introduce a new food for at least 3 days so you know exactly what it was if an allergy arises (did that make sense?)

yes that made sense - hadn't thought of that - see number 4 and I still don't know what I am doing!

things not great - I am feeling very angry all the time - no idea why - taking it out on ds1 (poor child ) - not feeling in control of life - if that makes any sense

hiya ooogs

jabs to be done tomorrow, i accidentally arranged a playdate for dd today

know what you mean about feeling cross and irritated all the time... i think dd is the one here suffering the brunt of my crotchetyness as she just seems to rub me up the wrong way constantly.. even when ds1 is being horrendous i seem to cope better than i do with her atm.

oooggs You sounded quite upbeat in your post. Must be tough with 4.
How old is ds1? Is he able to understand at all? Can you have 1 on 1 time with him on a semi-regular basis? Let him know he is your rock and then spoil him on his own, see a film, go to the park, anything like that?

ooooggs - DH says I'm permanently annoyed about something. I try to be upbeat but it's hard to be upbeat when you don't feel it isn't it and with 4 kids to cope with I think most sane people would have a sense of humour failure a lot of the time.....This baby/toddler stage is probably the most physically demanding of us I suspect. I dread to think though what those teen years have in store .

Conor has 2 teeth and gives every impression that more are on the way. DS1 had 2 teeth at 4 months and 4 at 6 months, after that it was a few months then a batch came through and we gave up counting around then (about 12 teeth?) because it was too scary trying.

herb You stop talking about teen right now!! Please let us live in a fantasy world where this stage is the hardest
elkie wow. Ds1 didn't get a tooth until he was 10 months but had teething symptoms from about 10 weeks. Think the same is happening with Luke.
Today I am digging out the blender and giving the steamer a good scrub so am all ready for this weaning bit. Am going to boil off a few carrots today and get them in the freezer ready.
I'm going to get some babyrice or flavoured cereal stuff today and give him that at dinner time, then on the weeked move babyrice to breakfast and carrot for dinner. Yummy.

I had another little problem with the reception staff at my gp's yesterday so sent anoter e-mail complaint to the partners. I also stated that I was not happy about the surgery in general and I actually will register somewhere else now. Just need to find another surgery.....

Hi all

Had a shit week (in many ways) as poor DD is still ill with d&v bug, though vomiting has stopped now but she is just on Dioralyte at the moment due to horrendous diarrhoea....poor mite looks washed out. She was little anyway (2nd centile) and now looks scrawny and feeble .

I have had some much different advice from HVs and GP that I am really confused now. HV suggested I try to get some solids into her and avoid all milk, whereas GP suggested watered down formula. My sister (a pediatric nurse) suggested I try a soy formula milk but I can't find any locally........

On a more positive note DS spent his first night in a big bed and slept brilliantly (I had to wake after 12 hours sleep!).

oh and yes I remember the 80's better than most of you lot! Still have a Scritti Politti LP somewhere.....

Calico - Sorry your DD is so poorly - I'm not sure if this helps or not but when DS had a horrendous D&V bug when he was 8 months old we eventually landed up in the out of hours service at the hospital as he'd had it for 5 days and was showing no signs of getting better. They told us to hold off the milk and give just water and Diarolyte for 24 - 36 hours. It was a horrible time as he was desperate for food and could only sip the water - problem was he was soooo hungry that when the bottle of water came to him he would suck frantically and then chuck it all up again so we had to take it from him and just keep letting him have sips every hour or so. Basically after that time his nappies sort of dried up and we gradually re-introduced the milk and some baby rice. We did though have very conflicting advice - some said feed and some didn't. The way we did it meant he became quite exhausted and I remember on the Sunday (took him to docs again on the Sat am) he pretty much slept all day...

Calico Hmm, I'm not medically trained or anything, but I would (out of the 3) agree with your sister. It does sound like the most sensible option. If you water formula down, although safe to do, you probably won't satisfy her hunger anyway, and not sure offering solids would make a difference tbh, it's a tough stage weaning and I wouldn't do it on sickness and stree the little klove out even more. I would say that trying the soya milk would be the best option as it's not uncommon to get severe d&v with intolerances and allergies. They don't do one in your local supermarket? If not, I'd talk to the gp and get some on prescription.
That's what I'd probably do anyway.......

herb x-post! See, conflicted advice here too!

Luke's being a rat bag.
I want to put him on breakfast as well as dinner tomorrow but dp thinks I shoulkd wait........

Thanks guys.....she has been on Dioralyte for 24 hours now so she is desperate for food (and quite cross!). Have just managed to get lactose free formula (decided against soy formula as I there seems to be lots of issues with it when I searched on MN) so she is guzzling this as I type. Cost a fortune so if it works I'll try to get it prescribed. In desperation I did offer her a mashed banana and watered down formula, which she turned her nose up at - but I think you are right LBB - she needs to be well and in a good mood to be starting weaning. So I've actually managed to combine all three bits of advice I got

DS was poorly around weaning time last time so I just waited til he was. It wasn't really a problem in the long run so sure she'll be fine. Hope she starts to get on the mend soon.

DS birthday tomorrow ! He's 3

[eek] ds1's third birthday on the 28th how did that happen?

happy birthday to him herbie... and yay to you too on the anniversary of you giving birth.

PT ? hope the jabs went well today

LLB ? ds1 is 5yrs 6mths and I am trying to have 7-7.30pm with him alone which means getting ds3 and dts to bed on my own before 7pm!!! (dh works shifts so only here at bedtime every other week) It is working, I think.

Herby ? teens mine are going to be model teenagers like I was

Calico ? poor DD, sick children are really hard as they don?t understand. Fantastic news on ds though in his big bed

Ds2 spent most of the night in our bed and ds3 had a bad night, he was unsettled, crying etc but this morning found the razor peg so he is now dosed in calpol and hopefully tonight will be better

nurse isn't there til thursday... so he'll be getting his 4 month jabs on his 5 month birthday

would you believe i used to be down at the docs on the date of their birthday each month they were due jabs with dd and ds1.... how did i suddenly get so bad at this stuff?!

oogs... poor ds3, hope the calpol lets him get some sleep tonight at least, hopfully if it's broken through the gum he'll be over the worst of it now

Calico Glad you found something. I've not completely read up on soy formula, but the impression I got was that it is worse for boys and shouldn't be used as a short term solution if there are other avenues to travel.
Hope she gets better soon.
herb Happy Birthday to your ds for tomorrow.
oooggs Don't think I'd cope with that!! Good on you. I don't really get any time with just Luke. Every now and again ds1 will nap in the day but not often anymore. Since we moved Luke into ds1's bedroom, they have been getting up together where when he was in my room, we'd have at least 20 mins to lay on my bed staring at each other. I soon feel better about the lack of 1 on 1 when I see how much joy watching ds1 brings him and how they already laugh together. Very sweet and wouldn't swap that for the world. It would have been quite nice today when dp took ds1 out if Luke wasn't so upset all day. He has been chewing on his t-shirt and screwing his face up so has had 2 doses of calpol today.
Hope your night is better.

OMG, Ds1 and 2 are both sleeping under their blankets!!!!!! Mark this as a 1 off! They both seem to hate blankets and covers, bet it wont last all night mind you.

So how long is everyone waiting between 1 solid meal and 2? I'm entering another worry stage (it is when I'm happiest isn't it?), and not sure what to do. Ds1 was on 3 meals a day very quickly and instinctively, I think Luke needs breakfast also, but would 2 meals a day after only 3 days of 1 meal be too much. He is only 21 weeks (I think.......) WWYD?

I have done something to my foot. My whole left foot and ankle is massive! Has been aching for a couple of days but has really swollen up now.

neglected child syndrome!! ds3 suffers from this too, as for having him weighed - NOT.

Did this all religiously with ds1 - PFB

I started 1 meal at 18 weeks, 2 meals at 22 weeks and 3 meals at 24 weeks - for no reason really - laziness just how it flowed. Took me a while to work out how I was going to fit in breakfast for Luke around nursery and school runs!!!

Cor blimey, I haven't been on for weeks. Found you all at last though. I've read the past few pages and am glad to see that we're on the topic of weaning as I'm doing that too. It started really well and Alex was really keen, but he now doesn't seem to like it as much and we had lots of strange faces and gagging today. He doesn't puke it up though, so that seems to tell me that it's ok to carry on? I've been trying a mixture of pre-prepared organic stuff (Lily's Kitchen I think it was called) and purees I've made myself (carrot, sweet potato, apple, banana). He's had baby rice so far (that went down well), sweet potato (liked it the first time, not so keen the 2nd) and a carrot, parsnip & apple mix today (pre-prepared).

LBB - I've been using Annabel Karmel as a very, very loose guide so I don't have to make all the decisions about how to do it myself (I hate decision-making) and she says to give one meal at first (lunch/tea) for a week, and then to introduce breakfast after a week. We've been doing afternoon tea for a week so I'm going to try giving him some breakfast tomorrow. I'm going to see how it goes though because after an enthusiastic start Alex doesn't actually seem hugely bothered about food.

I emailed my boss today to arrange to see her about the 'going back to work' chat. If only money grew on trees, I so don't want to go back. I'm really hoping I can string my savings out until mid-November though, perhaps by then I'll be gagging for some mental stimulation!!

Is anyone finding that they're still suffering with 'baby brain'? I left my handbag in the loo in the supermarket the other day. I didn't realise until I was right at the supermarket door and had to run as fast as I could (not very fast) while pushing the buggy. Thank god it was still there. I never would've done something like that pre-Alex.

Hmmm.
My plan for the feeding is to give him solid breakfast when he gets up at 6/6:30, along with water, then at about 8:30/9 give milk and out him down for his morning nap. Milk feed through the day as and when. Solid dinner at 5pm, milk at 6:30/7pm and to bed.

I don't plan on giving milk and solids at same time, I found I prefer to keep them seperate activities iyswim.
Maybe Luke will be different from Jacob, don't know yet. Tomorrow I am giving babyrice at dinner time instead of banana, then when ready, will move babyrice to breakfast and introduce carrot at dinner.
I do think he wants more proper food, but don't want to overload his system, especially as he still under 6 months, so might see how he goes the next few days, might just be the teeth.............I can never decide what I want to do or what I should do

QK x-post. My mn is very very very very very slow today.......
Agree about the Annabel Karmel stuff, was quite useful last time, just thinking because Luke never seems fully satisfied, much like ds1 was (or wasn't ) and I moved ds1 on very quickly and he was/is fine, but he won't drink milk now. I think he was also a bit older than Luke, don't really remember.
Well, I'm giving babyrice (ds1 hated it.....but worth a go) for dinner tomorrow and we'll just see what happens. I may give breakfast friday or might wait a bit, I just don't know!

I wouldn't get too disheartened if Alex is losing interest a bit, it's not like it's his main source os nourishment atm.

Re baby brain, I'm sorry to have to say, I don't think it ever goes.

Poor old DS will be lucky if he ever gets any solid food. At the mo weaning seems like just too much effort [lazy cow]. Am intermittently reading that book on BLW. Sounds good, although my girls live on Cheerios and baked beans which are banned items acc to BLW-svengalilady. R is er 19 weeks? I think.

Calico so sorry that DD is poorly. Hope she is on the mend soon.