October 08 - Chit chat

[CantSleepWontSleep]

That's us with the chit chat, not the babies!

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
3rd Oct (Due 26th Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - Rebecca Jill Erzsebet - 8lbs 10.5oz - Homebirth with paramedics due to meconium.
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept Oct) - CherryChoc - Boy - Ryan - 6lbs 11oz - 3 day labour with natural birth in hospital
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
8th Oct (Due Oct) - RedElsie - Boy - Daniel - -
9th Oct (Due 17th) - Marthasmama - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.
13th Oct (Due 15th Oct) - mum2jakeyroo/jrsqueak - Boy - Joshua - 7lbs 2oz - Delivered in car by dh!
16th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - rowanmac - Girl - Anna Ruth - 7lbs 2oz - 2 hours ARM to placenta delivery.
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz -
17th Oct (Due 27th Oct) - Rhian82 - Boy - - - Episiotomy and ventouse.
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz -
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz - hospital birth, epidural, stitches, 24hrs start to finish
28th Oct (Due 31st Oct) - Jojay - Boy - Edward Alexander - 7lbs 7oz - hospital birth - gas and air, 2nd degree tear. 7 hrs start to finish.
1st Nov (Due 22nd Oct) - SmudgeyDoodle - Girl - - 8lbs 2oz - Hospital water birth.
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz -
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz - Em C-Sec. Back to back and knotted cord around neck. 24 hours of labour first though, and don't you forget it!

since being pg celery makes my stomach turn. But other stuff sounds great . so the creamy part of soup is the tomato? And no choking on teh veg not smushed/pureed?

star hey for Q sleeping better. Hope it is the way to go from now on

hmm Glad P did not vomit yest (appart from small bit) hope she is ok today.

8myjob* is DS having night terrors like my dd? Its horrible to see but they are completely unaware of it.

Was not sure you could give peanut butter until they were 1? Is it onoly if there is a nut allergy? I will have to try P on it then. We all love it and Marmite

Made some apricot chicken and the lentil meal yesterday from Annabal Karmel, dds ate them well.

off to a wine bar for lunch with kids haha!!! Will see how that goes. Am meeting my sisters friend who is lovely so hopefully kids will be fine! If not I will give them wine and let them sleep... haha, no I do actually have a bag full of toys and treats. And I have made them lunch to take. Its a tapas bar so hoping it will be nice. The bloke wants to make it child friendly in the day but I want to make sure I have the right food to keep the kids happy. Marmire sandwiches and a puree meal for P.

Oh and DD1 had no teeth until she was 13 months, got 4 then none again until 18 months! DD2 looks like she will have huge rabbit ones they are massisive in her gums!

Oh, wonder how bethoo is doing?

Right off I go and get bags in car and must remember to wake P up!!!!

Whats marigold? Rubber gloves

myjob - well done with the scones

What's the consensus on oatabix?

Oh no Myjob - Sorry to hear you're ill. That sounds like what I had (and it still hasn't gone). Is it all in your sinuses?

Glad to hear you and ds had fun making the scones. I can't wait till S and I can cook together.

I think S rolled over my mistake actually - he's shown no signs of attempting it again.

Star - Sorry, I missed your question earlier about the beans. Soak them overnight (covered). Change the water and bring them to the boil, then simmer them until they're soft. The time it takes depends on how old the beans are but I would say check after half an hour and keep going if you need to. Then drain them, cool them and bag them up for the freezer. I'm sure tinned ones are fine - the rest of your diet is really healthy, but I do them myself when I can be bothered as I think they're a bit nicer (and it's cheaper, but it is a faff)

I just got this Tomy baby light show thing off Ebay, thinking that it might help S to settle to sleep better. It plays really warped, tinny sounding lullabies and projects lights on the ceiling. He loves it!! BUT he's managed to unclip it from the side of the cot already. I'm just glad it didn't fall on his head, as it's really heavy.

I'm BORED today. Can't go out as I'm expecting a delivery and have to be here from 9-5. Boo.

Myjob - Yes, I think you might need more butter and milk. It's worth a try. My friend gave me a recipe for some butternut squash muffins. I haven't tried them yet, but you could try them instead:

butternut squash and raisin muffins

8oz SR flour
1 tsp bk powder
1 1/2 oz butter
1/2 tsp cinnamon
1/2 tsp nutmeg
1/4 tsp ginger
7 oz butternut squash grated
2 oz raisins
3 floz milk

200 dg/ 400dg/ gas6

sieve flour, rub in butter then add the rest. Roll out dough, cut into 12 scones . cook for 15-20 mins.

Star - I've given S oatibix, and also used one crumbled up in lieu of breadcrumbs in a couple of recipes when I felt he was eating too much wheat in the day. According to the BLW book, anything with 0.3g of salt per 100g is classed as a low salt food. Oatibix have 0.38g, so not bad. (Don't worry - I don't know that off the top of my head, I happen to have some in the cupboard. And did I mention, I'm bored.)

hadn't checked the box can't believe that . Just had dh look and there's sugar. wtf?? Why does sugar need to be added to everything? I've been giving oatabix (soaked in breastmilk) as a "texture" for Q added to fruit and veg. He copes well with it, but it is mushed. It also helps him poo. Is there a more organic version of this that's just as easy (crush, mix and go)?
Those muffins sound yummy aubergenie

I know Star, it drives me mad too.

And don't get me started on the way they label things. Salt being listed as sodium, so you have to multiply it by 2.5 or listed per serving, not per 100g, or listed in mg rather than g per 100g.

I spent about 10 minutes comparing soft cheeses the other day, trying to figure out which one had the least salt in, and by the time I'd worked one out, I'd forgotten what was in the previous one. Dp said he'd make me a chart to keep in my purse as he knows my maths isn't too hot.

Maybe MN should have a list of the lowest salt cheeses, cereals...etc. and sugar free stuff.
Oh! I've been giving Q plum organic fromage frais. no sugar. I saw that sainsbury's own fromage frais in pots have no sugar, either. has anyone had these? The ingredients look similar but I'm not sure to be honest. anyone seen these? They are £1 for 6 instead of £1.99 for 6 like plum organic baby ones.

Also - what about just plain tesco fromage frais - natural, nothing added, comes in a bigger tub?

I might try those... but sure Q would eat the whole pot he can't get enough yogurt. Someone told me to give fromage frais a while ago? not yogurt? Now I can't remember why- heather was it? acidity I think. I'm losing my head!

and no colours or flavours - I always check for those... I'm a bit OCD about it actually

Hello ladies - My you're all chatty today. M is in asleep in her cot again and has been up there for nearly two hours! She woke up after about 30 mins but, had a little play and settled herself back to sleep! Yay! Shame it doesn't seem to work that way at night though. She was terrible again last night, I have no idea why she is so good during the day and so bad at night. She settled herself once in the night but only after crying for ages (we were shushing, patting and in the end picking up and putting down) but she was very restless and needed a big cuddle after having 20 mins of fitful sleep. She then went straight to sleep on me and so we popped her back on her tummy and she stayed asleep until 6.30. I hate putting her on her tummy but felt we had no real choice last night.

Aubergenie - I love baking and now that M is having long day time naps I might get a chance to do some! Yay! I will have to try those scones and those muffins. I try to put raisins etc in my baking as I hate them and it means I won't eat them!

Myjob - I mentioned that ds might be having night terrors during one of our fb chats. DS used to have them and they wake up really confused. Yay to the baking. I find baking with ds really hard as I can never find things for him to do. I think maybe I am too much of a control freak!

Star - Yes everything has sugar in it doesn't it? It's getting like the States! My SIL lives in Kalamazoo and moans that American food is just loaded with sugar and salt, in the most strange food items. We get the Racheal's Organic yoghurts which are sweetened with fruit juice. M is still not a big fan of yoghurt though.

This post is taking me ages to write as DS is playing on DH's Nintendo DS (not at all confusing) and keeps asking me for help!

Great minds eh Myjob!

Hmm - Lots going on with you! I keep missing your posts as you have been doing one big one a day and it keeps getting lost amongst all the others! Good to hear that your breastfeeding yoga is paying off with a less vomitty P. Well done on sticking to your guns, you know what's best for P and I always feel we should trust our instincts.

I bought these to go above M's cot in her bedroom. I think it might be too ironic though......

I know MM food in america is AWFUL! I always tried to shop at trader joes or wholefoods as you just couldn't trust anything else. Or Co-ops were another trustworthy organic option.
We went back for our wedding in 2007 and we were both at the portion of food put in front of us at our first meal out when we arrived. HUGE!

MM - We have put Q to sleep on his tummy since VERY early on. He's absolutely fine. We have a breathing monitor (angelcare - recommended by loulou... loulou is like my sleep angel... please take your crown...). But now, we don't need to use it as much (but I still do ). My step mother is a nurse and she said it's totally fine. Especially since he uses a dummy, but even without, at this age especially, they are old enough to move their heads to breathe or whatever...

Has anyone ever tried one of these? I thought they looked like a good option for when we go somewhere where there aren't any high chairs.

Yes! aubergenie - I have one and I love it. Q sometimes tips to either side, though. But it works.

I was going to get one of those Aubergenie as I go to my mum's house a lot and normally have to cart the Bumbo round with me. Good to know they work Star.

Has anyone got a sun tent? M loves being out in the garden with ds, but I want to avoid putting sun cream on her too often as Ds and I are allergic to it so M probably is too. Sun tents seem to provide good protection, but I'm not sure if she's a bit little to enjoy being in one. They seem a bit enclosed.

Argh! Bloody DH! I took M out in the garden, put her hat on her, put a little suncream on her face (not loads because of the aforementioned allergy) and put in her the shade. I hate the sun and the feeling's mutual so DH sent me indoors before I burst into flames. About 20 mins later I heard DH come in to answer his phone and heard M crying. SO I popped out to grab her onyl to find her on the trampoline, no hat on in full sunshine. She now has bright red cheeks and ears. Poor little thing. Stupid man. His excuse - 'I thought she was covered up so she was ok.' Her FACE wasn't covered up hence the hat and the shade! So, we now have a sun tent on order and I am going to make him pay for it!

Hi star i use the sainsburys kids fromage frais for emma, they are pretty much the same as plum except without the fennel, chamomile or whatever(!) no sugar added and nothing funny in them... and as you say half the price. The rachel's are great too, but as myjob says they are big. the sainsburys fromage frais are nice little baby size pots.