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CantSleepWontSleep · 11/05/2009 08:42

That's us with the chit chat, not the babies!

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
3rd Oct (Due 26th Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - Rebecca Jill Erzsebet - 8lbs 10.5oz - Homebirth with paramedics due to meconium.
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept Oct) - CherryChoc - Boy - Ryan - 6lbs 11oz - 3 day labour with natural birth in hospital
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
8th Oct (Due Oct) - RedElsie - Boy - Daniel - -
9th Oct (Due 17th) - Marthasmama - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.
13th Oct (Due 15th Oct) - mum2jakeyroo/jrsqueak - Boy - Joshua - 7lbs 2oz - Delivered in car by dh!
16th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - rowanmac - Girl - Anna Ruth - 7lbs 2oz - 2 hours ARM to placenta delivery.
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz -
17th Oct (Due 27th Oct) - Rhian82 - Boy - - - Episiotomy and ventouse.
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz -
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz - hospital birth, epidural, stitches, 24hrs start to finish
28th Oct (Due 31st Oct) - Jojay - Boy - Edward Alexander - 7lbs 7oz - hospital birth - gas and air, 2nd degree tear. 7 hrs start to finish.
1st Nov (Due 22nd Oct) - SmudgeyDoodle - Girl - - 8lbs 2oz - Hospital water birth.
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz -
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz - Em C-Sec. Back to back and knotted cord around neck. 24 hours of labour first though, and don't you forget it!

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jenwa · 11/05/2009 13:03

Ronshar we did that with dd1 when she kept getting out of bed about 2yrs, we just kept putting her back in and it lasted around a week but worked, she is really good now at bed time. With them at night (when dd1 was a baby and with dd2)I would just keep going in and putting dummy in when crying, am not a fan of them in bed with me so wanted to make it firm from the begining. It was not traumatic either so that was good, I think when you know that you can deal with a week knowing you have the rest of the time after that to sleep it is a relief You have to be determind though dont you!

mm Luckily we went up in the loft at xmas so was not ready before that so never had to tackle them pregnant! Did carry dd2 down with me though but you do get the hang of them. Sounds stupid but when you walk down them it is just like alking down normal stairs as you tend to walk one foot on each step IUSWIM, real bugger when you are half way down and forget something cause you just cant do that quick turn, I have to stop and think about it! And not great to hoover up on
aubergenie I have managed those stairs after drinking, I am not sure if I was really drunk and had to get down them quickly to the loo I would though, mind you we have good windows I could hang out of them Not planning on being that drunk though, hate feeling that ill! ronshar I you, would love to live in a bungalow! No faffing carting things up and down the stairs and everything on the same level...I am now pondering a pent house

CantSleepWontSleep · 11/05/2009 13:30

I only seem to have time for quick messages whilst in the car at the moment.

Lots of bf stuff that I'll comment on more this evening, but I have to correct mm about the age that children normally self-wean, because it's bugging me! It is very very rare for a child to truly self-wean before age 2, although nursing strikes happen much earlier, and some mothers mistake these for self-weaning, or simply choose to take the opportunity to wean whilst the child is not bothered. Self-weaning usually happens between 2 and 4, though may be later.

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Marthasmama · 11/05/2009 13:39

Sorry csws. I had read it was between 18 months and two years.

Marthasmama · 11/05/2009 13:44

Here is some info about the problem you're having with J loulou. And yes it does say typically after 2 years.

Marthasmama · 11/05/2009 14:06

CSWS - Could you please say something wildly inaccurate about criminal law or financial planning so I can have a turn at correcting you please?

ronshar · 11/05/2009 14:38

CSWS, were you Head Girl?

star6 · 11/05/2009 15:00

what's "head girl"??

jenwa · 11/05/2009 15:17

really want to make a rude comment at that star but I wont head girl was the one at school who was given that title (and a badge) when they were at the top of the class/year and were an inspiration to others . There would be a head girl and head boy in the final year at school. in other words a complete know it all

Marthasmama · 11/05/2009 15:18

Here you go CSWS.....

star6 · 11/05/2009 15:30

like a valedictorian? I think this is my american stupidity coming into play here...
Yes Jenwa.. I thought rude comment, too!!

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star6 · 11/05/2009 19:50

Well done pistachio!

Jojay · 11/05/2009 19:59

Evening all - myjob - we've both got poorly boys this evening

Dh has just taken Ds1 to the OOH doctor at the hospital, as he's very wheezy. He was hospitalised last time we took him in, back in January, so I'm scared that he will be this time

He has preventor inhalers and powders to take but the consultant told us to stop the inhalers at the end of April and restart in September, as there are fewer visuses around in the summer, which triggers DS's attacks. But here we are 10 days later, back to the doctors. So I think we'll be carrying on now.

I'm stuck at home with Ed asleep upstairs, waiting for the phone to ring, to find out what's going on.

This is by far the worst part of having 2 kids! ( and having a baby who won't take a bottle...) Dh had to cart DS1 to hospital at 3 am when Ed was only 5 days old! I was stuck at home then too. Not nice.

Anyway, moving on. Get some new eczema cream for Ed today - Cetraben I think it's called. We got it on prescription so hopefully it should help.

The picture of health they are, my kids....

On a brighter note, BLW is going better - Ed ahad a bash at lots of things today - pitta dipped in tomato soup was his favourite, but hummous went down well too.

hope your young man is on the mend myjob - and wishing you all a good nights' sleep

pistachio · 11/05/2009 20:11

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Marthasmama · 11/05/2009 20:23

Myjob & Jojay - Sorry to hear about your poor boys. Myjob - DS had croup when he was about B's age. He was better by the morning, but it was horrible while he had it bless him. Hope B gets better just as quickly. Jojay - Hope your ds1 is ok and that you avoid a trip to the hospital. M's eczema has got worse AGAIN so I'm going to take her to the drs after trying everything non-prescription.

Pistachio - It was the NCT course I was considering but I need clarification about job prospects. I really want to do the bfing thing but I'll need to earn some money eventually! Well done on the running. I must get back into running but I'll need to get at least a bit fitter before then!

I have spent an hour trying to get M to sleep and she just won't settle tonight. It is driving us mad! I've sent DH to sit with her as I have to unwind a bit. I want my dinner though.

Today I have been trying out the real nappies and so far I am impressed with all of them. I like the Itti Bitty because the inserts mean you can reuse the outside bit if it doesn't get soiled. But it seems really low cut and a bit scary! It was also nice a dry when I took it off although there was wee in it. The Tots Bots was nice and dry too but when it is wet you obviously have to change the whole thing. Hmmm........

Marthasmama · 11/05/2009 20:26

Jojay - I obviously mean avoid a stay at the hospital. Our OOH dr isn't located at the hospital so I forget that some are!

CantSleepWontSleep · 11/05/2009 20:43

Oh well done pistachio. That's fab!
I discovered today that dd can actually run about as fast as I can . We were racing each other at the gym this morning. It's a fab place - a proper gymnastics gym, but they run sessions for children a few times a week, where the kids can go on the beams, full size trampoline, asymmetric bars etc etc, and they put out loads of wedges and steps and other climbing stuff, as well as some rockers and ride ons and little slides for the younger ones. They even put out a small mat with a couple of baby seats and some baby toys. It's hard to imagine it, but it really is fab. Even dh was impressed and quite surprised at what it was like.

star - might be a daft question, esp from someone who knows v little about bottle feeding, but have you tried Q with a faster teat, in case that's the problem? Or tried him with a cup rather than a bottle during the day? I would imagine that if you stop pumping then he might struggle to up the supply enough over just a weekend to feed exclusively, but the long summer holidays (or even half terms etc) should be fine. It's worth starting a thread though, as I'm sure that lots of women have gone back to work and not expressed, but carried on feeding more when they are with the baby. In fact the more I think about it the more I think it would be feasible to do what you want. Is he drinking anything during the day? Are you feeding him directly at lunchtimes still?

MM's link says it all for you really loulou. Except it doesn't say well done for getting this far, and that there's nothing wrong with stopping now if you feel that it's the right thing for your family unit. Waiting til a year would save you the faff of formula though, as you could at least go straight to cows milk.

Think you already have your answer re payment for bf counsellors MM. Afaik, it's only the NHS ones that get paid, but the generally speaking better ones with NCT, ABM, LLL etc are all voluntary.

Keep us updated on the back carry practice aubergenie, as that's what I mainly want mine for too. In fact I must order mine tonight whilst I think about it.

aubergenie - are all of those wakings ones that require you to do something, or do you do something automatically because he's still in with you? I would hazard a guess that the number of wakes would reduce within a week or so if you put him in his own room. What do you do to get him back to sleep? I ask because some of those wakes are so close together that I wouldn't even have got ds back to sleep from the first before yours would be awake for the second!

Very sorry to hear about croup myjob. Dd has horrid cough all of a sudden - it even made her sick just before her tea tonight, but I assume it's 'just' a cough as she's had them before. I'm not actually sure how croup differs, so I might go look it up.

And no ladies, I wasn't head girl . But only because I left my primary school a year early so wasn't there in the year that I would have been head (was certain I'd have been deputy head at very least), and at secondary school I was sports captain for both of my 6th form years, so wasn't available for head girl duties. Thank you for my badge though - better late than never .

I imagine I will now have cross posted lots, as I started this message nearly an hour ago (ds has woken in between).

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CantSleepWontSleep · 11/05/2009 20:46

for ds1 jojay. Hope you get word soon.

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Marthasmama · 11/05/2009 20:58

WHAT?!!! Where's my post gone? Bloody laptop! Grrrrrr!

jenwa · 11/05/2009 21:08

myjob and jojay hope your boys get well soon. Poor little things. hope your ds jojay can come home tonight.

Well done pistachio on the run, mental note to self to get on and exercise wobble wobble!

aubergenie · 11/05/2009 21:15

Jojay. I hope your DS is OK.

Pistachio. Well done with the running!

CSWS - When DS wakes up, he yells his head off and waves his head from side to side looking for a nipple. If I feed him, he drinks like mad then goes back to sleep after about 10 minutes. While I'm happy to accept that he will need feeding at least once, maybe twice in the night, he can't be starving every time. I think we've got into the feeding habit because it's the path of least resistance, and I need to try other things first. Can't move him into his own room as we live in a one-bedroom flat. In fact, that's one reason why I leap into action as soon as he wakes - the sound-proofing in our flat isn't great since our upstairs neighbours took up their carpets and their bedroom is directly above ours so I'm really conscious of the noise in the middle of the night.

Jojay - Glad the BLW is going well. I was looking at 2 different packs of pitta bread I had in the house today, and there was a massive difference in the salt levels between the two. I was surprised. I thought I'd mention it because I've been giving ds pitta and he loves it, but I've realised that I'm going to have to go easy and make sure I don't give it too often.

A big hit today was falafel with garlicky, minty yoghurt.

aubergenie · 11/05/2009 21:17

Oh and Myjob - I hope your ds is better in the morning and doesn't have a terrible night.

loulou33 · 11/05/2009 21:19

busy busy busy typers you all are...

mm - thanks for the kellymom stuff although i have to say its not my choice to stop bf now as the article says but has become too difficult to feed him when he clearly doesn't want to. I can't find anything in the article that would explain what i could do differently really. I have tried all the things they suggest. I think my milk supply is low at nightime feed now as he has been too tired to feed properly (Joe is not one to fall asleep feeding and he would rather not latch on at all). He is still having feeds from me in am and after lunchtime sleep but that will have to stop once he is in nursery for the day (about 3 weeks away). i always knew i would stop feeding him during the day once i went back to work as i would never find the time to express at work (i barely have time to pee!!) but i feel sad that i won't be feeding him at bedtime as well. i can't see me just carrying on with one feed a day.....maybe i will for a while though as i don't want to give up just yet.

Ronshar - your comments about sleep were spot on. I think it involves a few days of heartache for long term gain for everyone. DS1 is a great sleeper and still naps in the day - he rarely complains about naps and often says he wants to go to bed. Joe was not a good sleeper to begin with but he's much better now since i got tougher with him

Jenwa - i think you deserve an award for all that cleaning, i felt exhausted just reading about what you had acheived. You cleaned behind the Sky Box, really??? You are dedicated!!

Jojay - sorry to hear your wee one is poorly. its really hard with two children if one is in hosp. I don't know how single parents manage to deal with that. Its horrible not being able to do something and just wait by the phone. Hope it all works out.

Myjob - hope the croup improves soon

Night night
xx

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