December 2008 Coven - white light and basket cases

[EffiePerine]

Seeing as LadyT broke the thread...

effie that's great about the house - one step at a time it will all get done (with plenty of chocolate along the way to keep your energy up of course)
Verso please don't feel like you have to apologize to us. Things are so very hard for you. Being the wife of a MS sufferer must be horrendous and you must have been terrified with yesterdays rollercoaster events. All of your reactions seemed entirely normal and reasonable for your situation. Just let it out! I don't reckon anything is to much for The Basket!
Where is lal? come back! come back!
My night was better psychologically but not so good in reality...
dd2 and dd1 both sleeping by 7.30.
9.00 - dd1 cough cough coughing and wheeeeeeeezing
9.30 dd1 still can't get to sleep - up lots - high on ventolin!
10.15 - dd1 feed then me to bed and lovely sleep
11-1 - dd1 still can't sleep due to ventolin and coughing but DH was still up on the Play Station so he was looking after her and I only heard the louder moments!
1.15 - dd2 feed
1.40 - dh to bed and started talking to me ( has he learnt nothing?!!)
4.25 - dd2 feed
5.00 - dd1 stomps upstairs to our room because she can't sleep blah blah blah and wakes dd2 up in the process!
5.30 - dd2 still awake so I go in spare room and sleep with her on me (yum yum special treat for us both!) and dd1 takes my place in bed with dh
7.30 - dd2 feeds and now we're up for the day and full of smiles and dh and dd1 are still sleeping in bed. I actually hope they stay there for ages because if not I'm going to have a very cranky 4 year old on my hands today. So tis good that P did do 3 hourly again - just a shame about the other interruptions! DH is off to see a friend in London so I'm on my own once he's gone, but then tomorrow I'm going to my parents with both girls and staying there till SUnday!
DD2 now giving me her 'mummy's not giving me any attention' moan so must go...
see you later xxx

effie that's great about the house - one step at a time it will all get done (with plenty of chocolate along the way to keep your energy up of course)
Verso please don't feel like you have to apologize to us. Things are so very hard for you. Being the wife of a MS sufferer must be horrendous and you must have been terrified with yesterdays rollercoaster events. All of your reactions seemed entirely normal and reasonable for your situation. Just let it out! I don't reckon anything is to much for The Basket!
Where is lal? come back! come back!
My night was better psychologically but not so good in reality...
dd2 and dd1 both sleeping by 7.30.
9.00 - dd1 cough cough coughing and wheeeeeeeezing
9.30 dd1 still can't get to sleep - up lots - high on ventolin!
10.15 - dd1 feed then me to bed and lovely sleep
11-1 - dd1 still can't sleep due to ventolin and coughing but DH was still up on the Play Station so he was looking after her and I only heard the louder moments!
1.15 - dd2 feed
1.40 - dh to bed and started talking to me ( has he learnt nothing?!!)
4.25 - dd2 feed
5.00 - dd1 stomps upstairs to our room because she can't sleep blah blah blah and wakes dd2 up in the process!
5.30 - dd2 still awake so I go in spare room and sleep with her on me (yum yum special treat for us both!) and dd1 takes my place in bed with dh
7.30 - dd2 feeds and now we're up for the day and full of smiles and dh and dd1 are still sleeping in bed. I actually hope they stay there for ages because if not I'm going to have a very cranky 4 year old on my hands today. So tis good that P did do 3 hourly again - just a shame about the other interruptions! DH is off to see a friend in London so I'm on my own once he's gone, but then tomorrow I'm going to my parents with both girls and staying there till SUnday!
DD2 now giving me her 'mummy's not giving me any attention' moan so must go...
see you later xxx

oops looks like I'm turning into LadyT

and at 10.15 it was dd2 who fed, not dd1!

So it was another 3 hrly night? That's great

(see me on the comp rather than Doing Stuff )

Morning!

DH's job is back where he was before the job he was laid off from. He knows pretty much what he is doing, knows 99% of the staff and starts next Thursday!!!

DS2 has his jabs today. Poor little mite. Then I finally have my physio today.

Effie Yay about house!! Hope you managed to get all packed up soon.

Trace Yay for 3 hourly!!! Poor DD1, hope she is better soon.

Hope everyone is well.

I think we DH is paying the movers to pack

must get rid of assorted rubbish beforehand

Great newsKayz, he must be happy to be going back

He is happy to be going back. He was getting fed up at home.

I am considering relaction. I really miss BF and it is really tempting. Haven't spoken to DH as he will probably think I am mad!!!

Hello?

Hellooooo?

Phew!

I should not have posted on the phone. I have only used it for Mumsnet twice before (and it was a different phone) - once when Pixsix had her baby early and once ages ago when I was on a really bad tempered thread about one of the more hotly debated topics (probably c sections) and in the throes of a huge ruck. I was coming home from work and I couldn't let it lie so I posted and it came up tons of times and made me look insane. Absolutely killed the thread! It still makes me laugh now. I laughed yesterday, I laughed like a drain at Paddington. But I am sorry as well. I will only use my phone to post in future in dire emergency. But I was so pleased about Kayz's DH's job!

Effie, if you are getting people to pack for you, that's brilliant. Moving is such a horrible hassle.

Spot - how is T this morning? Still improving, I hope!

Veggie - ah, Markeaton Park - I have played frisbee there when some friends used to live near there...

Katie - good to see you back. I heart Ludlow. Some friends have a place in Church Stretton so we do have a couple of Shropshire weekends a year, and we all love to go to Ludlow. There is a street on a hill which has tons of exciting vintage furniture shops. And I want to hear about Zambia! What does your sister do there? Amazing. The book I am just reading enthuses wildly about Zambia. I've been to Botswana, Namibia and Tanzania and I am very keen to extend my African repetoire

Trace - glad you are feeling a bit more chipper and that you are off to see your folks.

Jolly - Oh, I DO like the mac. I think I am going to order one in a minute.

PD - get you with your swimming! I rather suspect DP has got me a spa/leisure day on Saturday as he says I need a swimming costume. Mine are in London. All I can think of is my fat bits (anyone know a good hold-in swimsuit?) and the need for waterproof mascara. But I do like swimming really.

Verso - no judging on here, you daft girl. I do hope things get better for you.

Well, my lunch with my friends was just so lovely, in the sunshine. Their girls are six and four. We had to go to the rather dull pub up the road (car is in for a service so couldn't go further afield) but it was great, though I was slightly conscious about what they thought of DP and vice versa.... Then supper in London with other friend was delightful, though I had tapas and ended up having Tortilla Espanola as there were only a few veggie things, and having lived on it in Bilbao, I was less pleased to see it than I might've ordinarily been

Morning all, welcome back LadyT, I have to admit I larfed a whole load as well . Glad you had such a nice lunch and then jetting down to London for more of the same spuds n egg. Hehehe - I think there are a handful of us on this thread living vicariously through your social life. Good on you, I should take a leaf out of your book and be a bit more social and make the most of maternity leave....
I too v much like the mac, would be v funny if we all bought one and then went to a meetup together...would look like some kind of weird cult with us all holding our babies, and no men in sight... sorry, drivelling on a bit there.
T seems to continue getting better which is v good, DP on the other hand has regressed and has taken up permanent residence in the toilet (sorry tmi), fortunately I'm feeling a bit better so poor T has someone to look after him!
What is relaction, Kayz? Sorry, am a bit of a durr with medical terms - but from the context does that mean starting breastfeeding again? That sounds amazing, I didn't know it was possible!
Trace, that sounds like an exhausting night, though hope the 3 hour pattern continues. I hope your DD1 feels better soon.
How are you today, Verso?

effie, I can recommend a packing & removal firm, they were excellent when we used them. The packers were a godsend & literally went through our house in a day!

Bleurgh. I'm still ill and now I think DS might have it, whatever 'it' is. Think it might be a pyjama day for us. The only one who is full of the joys of Spring is DD, she is chortling away on her playmat.

Verso, I forgot your DH has MS, so my comments last night were probably a bit unfair. I was for you and everything you have to deal with, but forgive me.

Lady T my sister is married to a tobacco farmer [evil emoticon]. She used to live in Zimbabwe, in fact I lived there with her for a year, until their farm was taken off them by the government. It's a pretty amazing story as they were very involved with the opposition party which resulted in my Brother in Law being taken away at gunpoint and thrown in prison during the elections. After they lost the farm they moved to South Africa where BIL tried his hand at being an artist, here are some of his pics and then they moved to Zambia a couple of years ago to farm again. Have you read Africa House? One of my favourite books of all time. I love Africa and very nearly ended up marrying a Zim farmer and staying for good.

Spot That is exactly it. Mothers that adopt have been able to BF despite never giving birth or even being pregnant. I think I might go see GP as there is medication they can give you.

DS2 was brilliant for his jabs, hardly cried and when he did DS1 came and danced around near him so he stopped crying.

Ah, well you know all about Africa then, Katie! Ooh, no I haven't read Africa House but it sounds right up my street so I will order it from Amazon soon. One of my clients has written a lot about Zim as she grew up there, but whilst I love my client I don't particularly enjoy her work, so am always on the lookout for good books about Africa. What an amazing story your BIL has! His pictures are wonderful.

My friend is the deputy high commissioner of Tanzania and we were thinking about going over again before his tenure is up at the end of 2009...But DP worries about taking time off (it's unpaid in his job) and also a bit about DD. I think she would be fine though.

Do you go to visit your sister? How awful about the malaria.

Who's your client LadyT? I am always looking for good books on Zim. The Peter Godwin books are pretty good - When a Crocoldile Eats the Sun and Mukiwa. We haven't been to Zambia yet, I am a bit nervous about DD and malaria as it is rife where they live. I took DS to SA when he was 8 months, but it was a bit more civilised there, and no malaria!

OMG OMG, my sister's baby is still there!!!! . They did a scan today to confirm everything had gone as she'd had days of heavy bleeding, and discovered a heartbeat - she must be about 6 weeks! I realise things could still go wrong but that's just the best news chez spot in ages!

YAY!!!!!!!!!!! That is fabulous news Spot!!!!!

Hello all,

I think it would be very amusing for us to go to a meet up wearing identical macs! At least we'd have no trouble identifying each other.

LadyT OOoh a spa day, lucky you! I got a swimsuit last week from John Lewis that has a holding in flab panel. It certainly creates the illusion of a more toned tum. I think M&S does something similar.

katie Wow what an eventful life your BIL has had. The pictures are great. Hope you are all better soon.

effie Crikey, that is soon. It is good that you don't have to pack. Personally I'd be too to let people see my untidy drawers and cupboards. I'm tidy on the surface but lurking under the bed/in cupboards/chests of drawers is an underbelly of disorder and dust!

trace What a tough night - glad that P is still on track though. Is she going 3 hourly during the day too?

verso Don't worry, it must have been a really frustrating and difficult situation, especially it being on DD1's birthday.

spot Your poor DP. These bugs are horrible. A few years ago we went on holiday with a group of friends and we all came down with a D&V virus. We can laugh about it now but it was just awful. Six people + two toilets + buckets. Urgh

OOps cross posted...

Fantastic news spot!

I have just seen the tatters of our last thread. Hilarious. Well done LadyT, I haven't laughed like that in a while.

Spot - that is incredible news. What a little fighter. I have all my fingers crossed that it continues to be a fighter and hangs on in there.

Also great news about your DH's job Kayz. And I have never heard of relactation but it sounds fascinating. I wonder if your GP will know anything about it. Have you thought of calling the LLL? They were very helpful about my recurrent mastitis.

Katie - five one to one and a half hour naps! I never let DD go more than 3 hours in the whole day as I am scared of the night time consequences. However, you have got me thinking and today I may leave her to wake naturally from each nap and see what happens.

Oops, right on cue I hear her wail. Back later...

Oh Spot that is soooooooo wonderful I'm tearing up you must be bawling, right I'll conjure up a bit if White light for your DN!!!! (the N covers niece or nephew) just a bit more protection, what a little fighter will be a strong baby!!!

Kayz that sounds great, why don't you also contact a lactation counsellor as well and arm yourself with some info, I would hope the GP is supportive but just in case they aren't you can show them you are serious. I have known of one lady who adopted who successfully BF her baby for several months, it def can be done. Remember you have all the support you need on this thread.

DS1 has his 2 year review thing tomorrow. I posted a thread asking what happens and some kids had to sort colours and dress dolls.

He only knows blue and we don't have dolls so he wouldn't know where to start.

spot that is lovely, lovely news. I am so pleased for your sister.

I am really in need of some more of the white light. I'm so . I have been so scared the past few days then we were waiting today for DH to be discharged, and I was cleaning/tidying the house (MIL left stuff everywhere yday) and had hardly any sleep but my Mum was great helping out today and I was so on edge, and then MIL arrived and the conversation turned to weaning and how they had none of the "food order" nonsense in her day, they just got what they were given (which is no doubt why she gave DD1 TWO SCOTCH EGGS for lunch yesterday (?!)) and how I was making it too complicated and DD2 should be on meals by now and I tried to explain about my sister having really bad atopic eczema and being in hospital every few months for wet wrap bandages so I don't want to take any risks and then her partner chipped in with how amazing f*ing Dubai is because his daughter has SO much money and SUCH a big house and I'm thinking about the documentary I saw the other week about the slave labour they use on the construction sites out there and I'm staying calm and trying to be polite and wondering when on earth DH will be discharged and I get a message can I bring the suitcase on wheels as he's got so much stuff and it's in the attic (which hasn't got a proper floor and I am a bit useless up there) and the MIL's partner is joking about how I don't know how to switch a light off because I'd forgotten abuot the one by the front door and I'm thinking "what's happened to this half-hour break they were going to give me?" and they're sitting there waiting for their lunch (I've made DD1's by this point and she's eating nicely and quietly and I've finished BF-ing DD2) and I ask Mum if she can take DD2 for a minute and they all look surprised and I just quietly say I'd perhaps like a break and they look shocked and MIL says "you only had to say you know"

AND I JUST LOST IT

COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY LOST IT. SCREAMING, SHOUTING and THEN MIL's partner says "you need to calm down you know"

I know it was partly the PND. Partly the worry about DH. Partly just sheer bloody exhaustion from being up half the night.

But they don't understand. I've ruined DH's homecoming

I feel so knackered and my throat is so sore and I'm so achy and have been so worried about the future...

However, DH has taken the girls out for a bit so I can finally get a break.

Verso so much of your stress seems to be caused by those around you. I can't believe your MIL and her nobheadofa DP can't empathize with what you have been going through emotionally with DH going to hospital and the fear of what is to come feeling that little bit closer to becoming your reality, let alone your acute problems of you being unwell yourself with this cold and your now chronic lack of sleep. WTF was he going on about the light for, I mean I'm all for reducing our carbon footprint but really I think you have a little more on your mind. Oh and well done for not taking to him with a serated knife when he said to calm down, your a better women than me!