October 08 - A spoonful of sugar* (*not recommended as a first food)

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Have done shortened stats this time, just for those of us who seem to still be around.

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
3rd Oct (Due 26th Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - Rebecca Jill Erzsebet - 8lbs 10.5oz - Homebirth with paramedics due to meconium.
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept Oct) - CherryChoc - Boy - Ryan - 6lbs 11oz - 3 day labour with natural birth in hospital
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
9th Oct (Due 17th) - Marthasmama - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.
13th Oct (Due 15th Oct) - mum2jakeyroo/jrsqueak - Boy - Joshua - 7lbs 2oz - Delivered in car by dh!
16th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - rowanmac - Girl - Anna Ruth - 7lbs 2oz - 2 hours ARM to placenta delivery.
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz -
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz -
1st Nov (Due 22nd Oct) - SmudgeyDoodle - Girl - - 8lbs 2oz - Hospital water birth.
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz -
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz - Em C-Sec. Back to back and knotted cord around neck. 24 hours of labour first though, and don't you forget it!

i work in pharmacy so i get cheap stuff too, or did. dd will only take calpol and ds will only take medinol! fussy buggers.
personally i have always hated calpol, i remember a few years ago it was withdrawn after a baby od'd on it, caused uproar for the few months it was off the market. but dd prefers the taste of it and when they're ill you'll do anything.

people think it's a magic medicine that cures all ills and it's not. it doesn't help when kids are ill and gps prescribe it willynilly so that mum and dad have something to make their kids better even if they don't really need anything. grrr it's a personal gripe of mine...along side nurses but that's a whole other rant!

I had no idea about medicines and different brands. Just assumed calpol was the only one . I'd much prefer one without colours and without sweeteners if possible.
No news yet about sil and baby we are impatiently waiting.
We were going to go to the animal farm today to pet some lovely baby animals, but it looks like a rainy day.
DH is being really distant and I feel like he just doesn't want to be around me... maybe I just have some residual pnd... he tells me I'm being ridiculous, but he only talks to me when I ask him a question, and then it's just a mumbled one word answer.

I didn't realise there was a clear one. That sounds much better. We've just got the stuff that they prescribed when ds went for his jabs - a bottle of calpol and some generic stuff, but that was also bright pink and really sweet. DS loves it.

Sorry there's still no news Star. That must be really hard. about your dh too. Dp and I had a ridiculous my life is harder than your life type exchange this morning. We seem to have these a lot when we're both tired. Could that be the problem? Have you asked him what's wrong?

Pistachio - I was wondering that. Your dd walked really early didn't she? Is her co-ordination ok? The HV told us to try to get M on her tummy more as babies that walk and never crawl tend to have problems with depth perception. Having said that DS crawled 4 months before he walked yet he is really clumsy! He also stood before he could crawl, then when he discovered he could crawl gave up on the standing for a while.

Aubergenie - DH just agrees with me that I have it worse . I have taught him well.

Star - I think that he's probably just being a man. They are funny creatures. I know my DH loves me but there are times when I just don't feel it. Is there anything going on that he can't 'solve'? I find DH is grumpy when he feels like he's not fufilling his provider/protector responsibilites.

M was AWFUL last night. She is getting so clingy now. She went to sleep as normal at about 8, woke up at 11 then went to sleep for about 5 mins then screamed the house down. I picked her up and instantly she went back to sleep, tried to put her down wahhh, picked her up, asleep . She is getting worse not better. I love that she wants to be with me all the time but not at night.

thanks aubergenie and MM. Yes, he doesn't ahve a job for next year - is searching and applying but obviously can't interview until after the april holiday (teacher). he's also working like crazy to fix up last bits of our flat so we can sell it and move into a place with 2 bedrooms so Q can have his own room. Problem is, he's spending most of hte day doing this work (garden total refurb, bathroom...etc.) and I'm trying to entertain Q during the day by taking him out...etc. I met a friend yesterday afternoon and DH said, "well, I don't have the luxury of going to meet a friend for several hours. I have responsibilities!"
This really Pssed me off because while he does have responsibilities and he is working hard... I'm not exactly lounging about having coffee all day (I don't even drink coffee!) I'm looking after, entertaining changing, feeding (to exhaustion!) a very active and demanding baby!! (well, not as demanding as others Ive seen... but all babies are demanding - it's just being a baby!). It just made me feel like he thinks his days were so much harder... and they aren't! Same as you aubergenie.
And on Monday we both go back to work... are both teachers. And still have the other responsibilities. ugh... rambling now!
I know he's more stressed b/c of the provider/protector thing MM (not having a job lined up for next year yet must be stressful).

MM sorry for your awful night! We are in a cycle where DD sleeps all night once (in a blue moon) then wakes once each night, earlier and earlier, till she wakes so early - 2.30am this morning that she can fit in another wake as well - 5am. Then she'll sleep through again..... Given up trying to wonder how that works
Jessica is 6 months today! so I guess we have to start weaning
star - when DH does this, it normally turns out that he's not felt well. It's very very frustrating, cos I know what's wrong but he'll deny it and say everything is fine and then confess days later . Thinking about your SIL & DN too.

Tumble dryer arrived. Now I am a modern woman and am perfectly capable of connecting it up and following instructions etc - but I can't lift it off the packaging and daren't send DS1 underneath to drag it out as I lift corners, cos it's not worth squashing a child and then trying to explain. So we're just looking at it till DH comes home.

the medinol paracetamol is clear - well white, so no pink staining. iirc all the paracetamol on general sale is suspension therefore sticky. sometimes the stuff on prescription is an elixir so runnier and not so sticky. i'm not sure if any of you have heard of disprol tablets. you just put them in water www.chemistdirect.co.uk/disprol-sugar-free-tablets_1_12168.html they might me an alternative.

star my dh is the same. alex just wont settle for him so when he wakes it's me that has to see to him. he gets very resentful and upset, i can't see a way past it tbh.
it doesn't help that he works for the RBS so is worried about his future. he's not in line to lose his job but he's on the management training program and they are going to restructure the management so he might not get promoted. worrying times

That conversation sounds very similar to the one we had Star! I'm going to laugh my head off when I go back to work and dp is looking after S all day. Although he's brilliant at helping out, I don't think he really understands what a whole day (and night, and another day, and yet another crap night...) entails. Then he'll understand.

MM- I meant to say that your dh is a Stan fan.

CSWS - Hope you had a better night last night. Here is the chicken and fennel recipe. I adapted it a bit, but it was good.

Star, DH and I do this to each other and its generally when we are tired and/or stressed about all the things there are to be done. The problem is that the 'things to be done' are seemingly never-ending now we have a baby. I think that its going to take a bit of getting used to. We also both think our share of the work is harder than the other's and i know that when i have left emma with him for the day he has had a real wake-up call.

myjob i knoy you have received lots of reassurance, but emma and naomi are basically the same age and it sounds to me that they are pretty similar in development. Emma can just about sit, hates being on her front (hardly pushes up). hasn't rolled back to front, but has rolled the other way once! but on the flip side she is so sociable: loves cuddles with anyone, smiles all the time, laughs often, and makes some fantastic conversational-type sounds. She absolutely loves standing up (when i try to pull her up to sit she often goes straight to standing and i hold her hands for balance!!) Hope that helps - it definitely helps to know that Naomi and Martha are similar. Actually emma does those mini sit-ups too, very cute!

S is doing some really funny pelvic thrusting at the moment. I assume it's to do with strengthening his lower back, but he looks like he's auditioning for the Chippendales.

I agree KSal, it's definitely worse when there's a load of things to do. Sounds like you've both got a huge amount on your plates at the moment, Star.

Myjob - How did it go at the clinic today?

Aubergenie - Hee hee at S doing pelvic thrusts. With those muscles I'm sure he'd be a shoe in!

Pepper - Sounds about right, I get ds to suck the spoon clean for M. Seems to work ok . I reckon even if you did get ds1 to help, he'd be less than useles. My ds is absolutely crap at helping, he is his father's son. He gets all confused about what I am asking him to do. It does sort of help though as I often use the power of anger to do it on my own.

M is still getting nice and porky. She is now 16lbs 12oz so weaning has not caused her to lose weight which I was thinking it might have done as she seems to be taking less milk (more mucking about, less feeding). I asked the HV about M being cheeking and wanting middle of the night cuddles. She did say well, yes of course she does, she wakes up and gets rewarded with a lovely cuddle. But she also said that they're only tiny for such a short while, you can't really spoil them. She also agreed that it was impossible to resist those piercing blue eyes! Awww, she's such a manipulative little madam.

star Men are all the same I think! DH was the same when building loft etc, he worked hard up there whilst I entertained DD's yet he will always say he would prefer to entertaing kids as easier but he never seems to be able to as always something else to do and when he does it tv, junk food and mess everywhere. He cant manage house hold chores at the same time so they think we are the same and just play, they forget who puts there clothes in the wash and hangs them back up, cleans the bathroom whilst they not there, hoovers, goes shopping (with children) and lumbers a bg trolley and kids are manouvers isles, people and cars!, feed them and so on and so on. They have to rem reminded at times by you going away for a long time and leaving them alone to realise there washing does not do it by itself and the skids in the loo stay there if they are not cleaned sorry TMI but hope you feel better now oh my loo does not have skids in it by the way as I clean it

Ohh so wanted to post on the medised thread but walked away I use it actually not embarassed but know people will think I am evil mother! I use it only afew times and this is when DDs have really been poorly and had a terrible night. I had night nurse when I had my stinking cold as it helped me breath and sleep and that is the same as medised, I was not being cruel, actually kind as heloing my girls to breath whilst they slept and feel better in the morning and it worked. Have never given more than one dose and when I gave to DD2 (who I know is under the age but to be honest it is age restriced as people over medicating) I gave her half the dose (that was stated for her age as it was still labelled for 3 months up on the bottle! Anyway, rant over, I will never overdose my children and only have given in extreme circumstances and to help them. I did buy some cough medicine for dd2 the other week and had given her some that I had in the cupboard from last time but ran out so when I went for more at the chemist she said they had to stop sellig that as of that week as a child had been over medicated and died from it so I went into panic as I had given it to P but she assured me it was because someone had given too much to their child [phew] anyway, got a different one only to be told by my Dr that they dont help anyway!

Sorry spelling and grammer bad! Trying to undo pipe cleaners that DH made into some sculpture for DD and she wants them undone now!!!

Just watched the video Pistachio. She walks really well in it!! I want that Albetta babygro. I can't find it anywhere, it's so cute! Oh and at dd's gorgeous slim mummy at the end of the vid. I must say I'm less concerned about it now that I've seen how well she walks in that vid.

Did my message before not post? Or am I missing it? I had written thanks csws I was secretly hoping and waiting for you to say that ("all he needs is milk"). I think I know this inside, but just need to be reassured!

He's not settling so well right now... DH trying - it's funny!! I always put Q to bed with a bf. Tonight he's fed from left, right then left again and still awake! I'm sure he'll be down soon. He's SO tired!

And thanks for reasurring me everyone that men are all the same! DH is much better now (after intimacy all men are, right??) Oh well, whatever needs to be done to make him lovely again...

Star - I remember reading, it might have been on here even, that men need sex to feel loved and women need to feel loved to have sex. I think that sounds about right. I made DH feel really bad once by pointing out that he was always so much nicer to me after sex. He felt so guilty - mwahahaha!!!

Pistachio - Thank you, but it is the sort of thing you should have as a keepsake, even if you don't have another girl. I have kept the lovely donkey jacket (complete with long ears) my mum knitted for ds. Bloody moths got it though I must resume my internet hunt for that babygro......

MM I said the exact thing to DH and he told me it was "the most ridiculous thing" he had "ever heard"

Grrrr for you Star. I'd have said 'Fine, you won't mind if you go without then will you?' But then I'm a stroppy cow! Do you think he's jealous of your realtionship with Q? Men can sometimes be a bit funny when their woman suddenly has a new focus for her attention. Let's not forget that men are large children so it's a bit like sibling rivalry.

Where's myjob? I want to know if all that food has piled on the pounds, well the ounces anyway!

I wonder if that's what's wrong with DH then, star? It's been ages for us but I'm just not particularly interested, we have a little lady who seems to be in our bed earlier and earlier each night and I've had my first AF for the last week (prob linked to the progesterone coil that I had) and it's still not bloomin stopped.
DH out for a few drinks this evening so I can MN on the sofa with a glass of wine.
We've only given DS medised about 3 times (he's 2 now) and DD has had it twice already but she's sooooo bunged up and can't breathe and can't sleep and can't feed etc etc We only bought new medised in Feb and they sold it to me for my 2 year old. When did it get changed to 6? off to search