October 08 - A spoonful of sugar* (*not recommended as a first food)

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Have done shortened stats this time, just for those of us who seem to still be around.

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
3rd Oct (Due 26th Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - Rebecca Jill Erzsebet - 8lbs 10.5oz - Homebirth with paramedics due to meconium.
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept Oct) - CherryChoc - Boy - Ryan - 6lbs 11oz - 3 day labour with natural birth in hospital
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
9th Oct (Due 17th) - Marthasmama - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.
13th Oct (Due 15th Oct) - mum2jakeyroo/jrsqueak - Boy - Joshua - 7lbs 2oz - Delivered in car by dh!
16th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - rowanmac - Girl - Anna Ruth - 7lbs 2oz - 2 hours ARM to placenta delivery.
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz -
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz -
1st Nov (Due 22nd Oct) - SmudgeyDoodle - Girl - - 8lbs 2oz - Hospital water birth.
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz -
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz - Em C-Sec. Back to back and knotted cord around neck. 24 hours of labour first though, and don't you forget it!

Well DD doesn't really have much hair to start with, she can't sit at all, just thinks it's hilarious when she wobbles straight over, and she can roll over, but only by accident - she is very busy practising the upside down caterpillar though and can travel a surprising distance .
I've typed this through the blubbing by the way MM!

Beautiful MM!!!
No news as of yet today... well, nothing different from yesterday anyway
Q has been taking in LOADS more milk than usual of late... he's eating the food we give him, but he'll have one puree meal per day, the other two he just sort of has a few bites and isn't really interested. Im worried he's not getting enough of what he "needs"?? Just not sure. But the milk intake is totally wiping me out. I feel physically exhausted just from feeding him.
He also started a few nights ago waking at 3.30am again for a feed... screamed until fed! So I re introduced 11pm dream feed last night (haven't done since 18 weeks) and that cured the problem. he woke at 3.30am still but settled right back to sleep with a quick put the binkie/dummy back in his mouth. Does anyone know why he suddenly wants so much more milk? CSWS?
I'm still anaemic... so it's really wiping me out big time!

ahhhh, how sweet mm that is lovely. Your DS is sooo cute.

Ymyjob and MM Phoebe is doing the rolling but no sitting yet and no blowing kisses or cuddles... maybe she should have been a boy , actually she is very cute and smiley and such a placid happy baby and hardly cries so I am pleased really. I think they are all different. I look at DD1 and hope DD2 stays placid and cute as DD1 is really in to strops at the mo! Phoebe was on her tummy earlier and DD said she wanted her to go back on her back, next thing she was on her back and DD1 said "I never did it! it was swiper (from Dora)"!!! I did have words with her not to do it though as it was not nice pushing her over!

I told DD too that her ears go green when she is tired as she keeps gong to bed and whinging that she is "just not tired" and its driving me mad so I told her I can see her ears are green so she has too a friend of mine did it to her daughter when she told lies so great as they cant see them haha!!! She would go to her mummy and say what had happened and then ask if her ears were green so her mummy knew if she had been lying

mm lovely dress. We are thinking of doing something this summer like that as DD1 had a welcoming party when she was a week old and we never did it with DD2 as too tired and had lots going on. Also not had christenings althou I was but DH not and he not keen so thought we just have a little party and invite friends and family.

Star What do you give Q to eat in the day? P has breakfast, a lunch meal and a dinner. she usually takes alot of her m ilk afterwards and I think it may be a thirst thing?

Hee hee. I feel mean for making you cry!! Well, it's ds's fault for being a cutie (well, sometimes).

Jenwa - Swiper eh? He really is very naughty isn't he? DS had a teddy that used to commit terrible crimes like spit chocolate milk on the floor. DS's ears actualyl go red when he's tired so we legitimately use that one! DS is too good at lying now, it's so had to tell so we just think he's lying all the time.

Star - I think they go through yet another growth spurt at around 6 months so it coudl be that. M still has a good feed a couple of times during the night. I really hope she starts sleeping longer soon.

MM. Oh my, how lovely.
I think DD2 would probably say something like "I will try not to eat your easter eggs".

Lozza great to see you again. Sounds like Sander is growing fast.

Myjob, dont worry Naomi will all of a sudden do everything and you will be crying because she wont be your little baby any more. I dont know about the hair issue. I remember DD1 used to leave a pile every morning. She was bald at the back for ages! As it was such a long time ago I cant tell you how old she was!

Aubergenie, what did you have for dinner? I bet it was lovely

CSWS, how is Duncans reflux now he is eating? Has it made much difference? I was looking at the stats list and it made me giggle to remember reading your live birth thread, then having William and coming home to carry on reading your thread

Dh is away until Sunday, yipee. Bed to myself with no snoring. I am taking the opportunity to try and break the night time misery. William also likes to wake at 3am. Why I dont know. I think it is a controlled crying but with me next to him with my hands on him. If that makes sense. It only took an hour last night with 10 mins of crying at the end of it. I was about to give in but luckily William did first.
Hopefully tonight will not be as painful!

Awwww MM, that is so sweet. I'm a bit teary just reading it.

I was wondering whether we should do something for S. Neither of us have been christened so it would be something like that. Who conducts the ceremony? Is there someone official or do you just do it yourselves?

Star - I can totally relate to the feeding tiredness. After a very encouraging start, since S was sick he has totally gone off solid food, has refused all my lovingly prepared concoctions and is breast feeding a LOT. I'm also really hungry.

Aubergenie - There is a celebrant like a civil wedding service who conducts the thing. In our area, they get you to pretty much write it yourself.

You'd need to refer to your local council for info.

Ronshar - Your dd2 might say that but she wouldn't mean it

Ooh, I met a friend of a friend today who says she's got a fabulous child minder who she can't praise highly enough and who's got vacancies starting in September. Apparently she's very creative and has a no TV policy and her ds loves going there. And the great thing is, she's term time only and just round the corner from my school!! She's going to put me in touch with her. I'm very excited, as although I'm sure nursery would be fine, I like the idea of a home from home environmnent for S and she sounds ideal. I can't wait to go and see her.

Ronshar, it was chicken with fennel and garlic. Very nice. Dp suddenly came round once I presented him with a plate of food and a glass of wine.

Myjob - good luck with the weigh-in tomorrow. I tried to go to the clinic yesterday, but got there, padlocked the pushchair outside, took ds in and it was horrific, so busy - people said they'd been waiting for nearly 2 hours and it was completely overheated and I had too many clothes on. I couldn't face it so I turned around and went home again.

Thanks MM, I'll look into it.

Right, a few mins to post now and then I think I'm going to head up for an earlyish night, as ds has already had one traumatic evening wake. His timings and moods are so out still since he was ill, and he ended up having dinner too late tonight, as he seems to have done quite a bit, meaning that he had his bath straight after his dinner, and went to bed with prob not enough milk, and a nasty case of wind/indigestion. Hence he woke up after an hour and half and was absolutely hysterical. Had to give gripe water by pinning him down in the end, which of course meant that in his struggling he was gulping down more air. Ended up being hugely sick as first lot of air came up with mucousy gripe water and bonus bit of milk that he'd had first to try and calm him. Tried to give more gw once he'd calmed down again, cue more struggling, and then a huge load of bubbling wind came up, and he calmed down and went to sleep on my shoulder. Managed to put him down ok, so hoping he'll sleep better now.
Lesson is not to give dinner too close to bedtime, or to give gripe water after bath if it's absolutely necessary to feed late.

Other than this sort of thing, his reflux is generally much better thanks ronshar. Though when he is sick it bloody stinks!

Star - Q will be getting enough of what he needs, because all he needs is milk . I can't offer any concrete reason for him having more milk at the moment, except for a growth spurt, but if he's having more directly from you rather than a bottle then it's possible that it's a comfort thing for teething (I suppose a bottle may comfort in the same way, but I don't really know). Or it could in fact be a comfort thing because he has a bit of indigestion too, like Duncan.

MM - very cute dress and sentiments from ds. Our Christening plans will have to be delayed again until the new building works are finished to rectify the mess from the fire.

Recipe please aubergenie! I bought fennel and chicken today .

MM you are so right.

A growth spurt. Are you joking. Do these children ever stop growing. That could explain why my nipples are really sore again.

evening all,
i had a lovely day today, we went to the trafford centre with some friends for the day.
alex was great, i had his in the sling and everyone was looking and cooing over him.
it's his half birthday today! it's gone so fast.
but i had to put on my judgy hat today, my sisters friend came shopping with us, she has a 3 month old baby and she has weaned him!! i was so shocked! what makes it worse is she's a nursery nurse. her reasoning was that he was feeding every hour so he must be hungry for food. i didn't say anything coz it's not my place but my god 3 months!

MM that is gorgeous and I had the same thought as myjob. I then went on to well up at the thought of it all. [joins myjob in the sadsap club] Read it out to DH too and he thought it was lovely. I can just imagine it might be what DS would like to say if he had the words. At the moment he says Siesa, no cry and pats her.
DD can roll over now but she looks like she is trying to break her neck as she does it. She also does mini sit ups if she's on her back and wants you to sit her up. I'm very impressed with her stomach muscles - wish I had some!
We are in the no dryer club (actually come to think of it, we're the same as Aubergine and have a washer drier but we never use it) so I usually just do one load a day and try and get it out for a bit to air and then drape it over radiators so that they get properly dry in the hour that the radiators are on. I find towels don't dry at this time of year if we don't have the heating on a bit. Pepperrrabbit LOL at you flapping round the garden. Could you not invite small children round and give them the job?
Thanks for sympathies over teething. We found with DS that Nelson's powders worked best so have been trying those. Have to admit to giving DD some medised the other day cos she was so bunged up and sorry for herself. Don't know whether it helped or not because she still woke up every 2 hours (normal for her so might have been much worse) We have an upside down caterpillar too. Best bit is, I made a big deal of it so now DS does the caterpillar too.

Ooh I think I'd have found it too hard to bite my lip heather. Would have tried to restrain myself to just a one-liner though, at least at first .

Someone asked about how I view MN. If you go into customise, and select mumsnet classic and unlimited messages per page then you should get something like how I have it .

Oh smudgey - I went to buy some more medised to keep up at mum's yesterday, and they now won't bloody sell it unless it's for a 6 year old child or older, so I had to haul my ass out of superdrug, where I'd said that it was for a 3 year old, and go to boots where I claimed it was for a 6 year old. Tiresome.

Obviously not a good nursery nurse. She must have missed a whole section of her course
I wonder what her HV has to say about it?

Apparently my dryer will arrive between 7am and 10am. This is clearly because I specifically told the lady on the phone, that the only times I have to be out are 15 mins each at roughly 8.45am and 5pm... to drop off and pick up DS2 from nursery. I said any other 3 hour slot would be fine and at a push my mum could do the afternoon pick up.
Evil bitch. I shall send wet pillows to her at random 3 hour "slots" during the day and see how she likes it.

There's a feisty thread about medised going on as we speak CSWS!

Nooooo, don't make me look. I was about to log off!

I dont use Medised so no idea what those ladies are talking about. We are a generic paracetamol/Ibuprofen family. I hate the way Calpol has taken over the world. People think it is a medicine itself, not paracetamol. Very dangerous stuff.

We have the Boots own paracetamol stuff - had to explain to a friend that it's exactly the same as calpol - but cheaper! She was most indoctrinated suspicious.

Yep same as Nurofen/Ibuprofen.
I even have to explain to my mother

Hmmmmm I wonder why I always get calpol and calprofen for the kids when I get cheap shit own brand stuff for me as I know it's the same thing. Even DH does and he is the tightest person I know! I'm not risking medised as, I think I have mentioned before, ds is one of those rare creatures that actually goes hyper when he has antihistamine. We gave him some for his heat rash when he was 2 thinking, ah nice peaceful night. - cue him bouncing off the walls for four hours while we lamented our rare little creature. I'm am NOT risking it with dd!

Smudgey - M also does those sit ups. She pulls herself up for ages like that! She rocks like a little dish! She does it when we are changing her nappy, when we're getting her dressed, when she's on a slight incline....she's obsessed. My mum thinks it hilarious, she's never seen anything like it. She can stay in a crescent shape for minutes. She is also getting really brave when standing. She keeps letting go of one hand and reaching out for things, and for the most part, managing to balance.