Fab Feb 2009: too sleep deprived to think of a new thread title

[dinkystinky]

'nuff said

PT That's roughly what I was doing. I'd put him down, tuck him in, kiss, love you, goodnight and leave, the if he started I'd go back after a minute, calm him and repeat above, then leave it 2 mins, then 3, but never more than 5 mins. I always found it worked really well, but now also have the fear of the screaming disturbing the baby but maybe it's a small sacrifice for a long-term gain......

nkweto thank you.
You're dc's are no longer infectious if sppts have scabbed over, so go, take them for a burn-out session and enjoy. x

dd used to fall asleep to the sound of ds1 screaming in the room with her, didn't bother her a bit. and aaron can sleep through world war 3 breaking out in the same room as him. i think at times we underestimate our babies ability to ignore what doesn't interest them

btw... didn't mean that to trun into a link... and it missed off a word too anywho........

I just got a blank page from that link, but thank you

Luke is asleep again, so gonna try and get that bath.

ok......that's why nothing came up then

nkweto.... let them run free don't forget a good book and a flask of something (tea/gin? ) for yourself so you can have a nice relaxing sit down while they leg it about.

forgot to say... ds1 has now done 2 little poos on the toilet hopefully he keeps up the good work now!

afternoon all,

LBB, sounds like you are getting a bit calmer and thats even before the tablets have kicked in Hope its because you are getting a bit more help/support from your DP and maybe more sleep. I was a real grumpy bitch with my DH yesterday but it was because I'd had hardly any sleep the night before. Last night I got around 6 hours and think he is wonderful again

PT, your sleep training sounds good. We are trying that with DD on the nights she doesn't want to play (most nights at the moment)
Well done to DS1 too. DD managed two HUGE poos on Thursday whilst toilet training. Sadly not in her potty though but in her lovely new knickers

nkweto June meet up would be good. DH in process of trying to change my flights today so I can get back to the UK in time for my Alexandra's birthday on 11th June.
Planning lots of trips to Chessington in the following week before my annual pass runs out so maybe a meet up with STW then?

Forgot to say, I have a nanny starting tomorrow! We'd always said we wouldn't get one and didn't with DD and had to wait til she was 18 months til she started nursery before I got any peace and quiet/me time. One of my friends however has had this one for around 3 years and had to let her go as she needed longer hours which she couldn't do so I'm getting her for 2 mornings a week. Hopefully it will give me time to get back to my studies and finish two correspondance courses I signed up for last year. Hurrah! (must resist the urge to spend more time on mnet)

LBB - Danny has to - and does - sleep through the road being dug up outside our bedroom window when napping at home, so bet Luke will sleep through DS1's screams. Do what you need to in order to get where you need to with DS1 - Luke will be fine, as will DS1 once he's used to self settling again. And re holding Luke - they're still so tiny its crazy to try to sleep train them now, much better to wait until they're a bit older - so just do what you need to do now to get Luke off to sleep. I swaddle and hold Danny for a minute or so to get him sleepy and then pop him in his cot - sometimes it works and he drifts off, sometimes it doesnt and he needs holding again till he's sleeping or more sleepy or needs a bit of boob to get him in the right mood... just need to roll with what he needs. And your DP will learn the hard way re the change bag - fwiw its a man thing as my DH often does stuff like that too...

Ommwards - lovely to see you back on the thread. Dont worry about catching up - just slot on in.

Nkweto - if the pox are scabbed over you're fine to get out with them. When DS1 had pox 2 years ago we HAD to get out of the rented flat with him as soon as his pox cleared up as like your DS he was desperate for a change of scenery after a week of languishing around watching Cbeebies. Re skin tags - DS2 has a skin tag just in front of his right ear. According to the GP and the paediatrician this can be a sign of a serious kidney issue (studies have been shown which show this link) which is why Danny got referred for a scan at this 6 week check. It is a commonly known point apparently - 3 of my old uni friends who are now GPs asked about when the scan was when they first saw Danny - so am sure your GP would have picked up on it if DD has a skin tag in front of her ear. Maybe if the tag is on the ear its not such an issue.

MS - hope your dinner party went well last night.

Just a quick check in. Dp has just put the cot up, it looks huge!!!!
I am feeling more positive today, but like I said I think that's because I've actually started to take action towards my mood swings which is a massive step on it's own.
dinky I don't reslly mind sitting and holding Luke at the moment as like you say he is so tiny. I just was hoping to leave him from the get go so I wouldn't have to do any sleep training with him iyswim. Nevermind.
Although I know at some point soon, I have to et ds1 back to settling himself, but think I'm going to leave it (or try) for another few weeks. I know that leaving him even for a second atm, will upset and stress me out and maybe I need to work on just staying calm for now. I could handle it if he just cried, but these are screams like he's being seriously attacked, even if you turn your back from him. I mentioned it again earlier to dp abut the in/out instead of just in, but don't think he's too keen to try it judt yet, but the longer we leave it, the harder it'll be on all of us.
I'd feel better if it was me doing it instead of dp (again my control issues), so may see if he wants to swap dc's at bedtime.

Anyway, lovely day again. What's everyone upto? We're just lounging. I'm gonna go and sort through all the paperwork (payslips, bills, bank statements), it's just a massive messy pile on my bedroom floor and needs to be filed away, so while everyone's happy and quiet.......
Hope everyone else is having a good and enjoying the sunshine.

spoke too soon.

3 pees and a poo in his pants... and all of those times he'd just been asked if he needed to go.

have resorted to taking stones out of his reward jar for accidents as he told me 'like peeing in knickers mommy... fuuunnneeeee!'

PT
I have heard that taking stickers or stones (?) off (out) of reward charts (jars) is quite effective as visiual messages work better with lo's.
Hope he gets better.

quick update.. we went to the park it was FANTASTIC.. we are all exhausted.

Due to the pox, DD has not had her 8 week check.. so no GP has seen her skin tag yet.. oh dear.. we have a appt, next week though so will find out then..

lbb, great to hear you are feeling better today..

Glad you had a good day nkweto

Glad you had a good day at the park Nkweto. Please dont worry about the skin tag on DD's ear - its the pre-auricular skin tags that may be indicative of kidney issues (.i.e. just in front of the ear) - am sure the GP will be able to put your mind to rest.

MoS - very exciting about your getting a nanny for a couple of mornings a week. Am sure you wont know what to do with your free time!

DS1 had a lovely birthday today - lots of chocolate, his favourite foods to eat (which he ate well of course) - including a homemade chocolate fudge monster cake (courtesy of my lovely DH) which DS1 loved just licking the chocolate icing off, grandparents spoiling him rotten and lovely presents. He was soooooooo excited he couldnt have his lunchtime nap today - which led to meltdown at 7 when he was insistent he wanted a poo but couldnt do it and had a huge tantrum so day ended on a bit of a low for him (particularly as he then managed to do his poo in his night nappy at 8.15 tonight half asleep (I'd just gone into his room to check on him and caught him mid poo)). Apparently this poo (which he now calls Mr Poo thanks to Swampsters Poo goes to Pooland story ) was too shy to come out in daylight hours....

good news nkweto must have been fabulous to get out of the house. on't panic about the skin tag, if she had kidney troubles i'm sure you would have noticed something by now.

lbb, it was the only thing that worked for dd, when we were only giving she didn't have to try very hard and her pile of stones still increased, it was only when she started to lose them that she realised she had to stay dry all the time. as for the stones... i use to make charts for dd but got bored so got a jar and a handful of pebbles instead, they're both obsessed with pebbles so it's as interesting to them as a sticker but alot less arts and crafts for me to set up

dinky... lol at mr.poo... i was in hysterics reading the pooland story earlier, was too manic here to sit down and read it to ds1 as he was very hyper but may try it tomorrow.

Pink - I still have to ask DS1 if he needs to go have a wee; he's not taking the initiative at the moment though when asked will say no thanks or yes and pull down his pants and find a potty if he needs to go. And when I tell him the morning as I put him in his pants that he has big boy pants on and has to do his wees where, he always says "on the sofa?" I say no, then he says "in the kitchen?" no "in my trousers?" no - eventually he gets to the right answer after about 5 minutes

dinky Glad ds1 had a good day. Sounds like he was spoiled rotten! Like you say, shame it ended on a bit of a downer for him, but inevitable at this age isn't it? Especially when they're far too geared up for a nap. Ds1 was like it at christmas.
PT I can see how the taking away would work. It's like getting praised for doing something well, but not having anything done for doing something not so well, so can def see how the visuals of reward stones being removed helps their understanding. Will have to remember it.

Luke is in the middle of his first night in the big cot. Dp put him to bed tonight, but I went in there after and got some photos of this teeny little baby in this huge cot. It loked small in the shop, but huge now there's a baby in it. He has one hand curled around a bar, very cute.
Luke woke up all grizzly abut an hour ago, so I went to get up thinking he wanted a feed, and as I swung out of bed, I kicked dp in the head hahahahahahahahahahhaha. He was trying to get the dummy that had fallen under the cot. If I'd known he was there, I my have swung my legs round a bit harder

aaron has a cough

he's a bit miserable poor this and was coughing so hard earlier he puked all over me. he's fallen asleep grizzling in his bouncer now so hopefully he'll be a bit chirpier at my parents this afternoon..... i get so panicy about him developing asthma though between the pneumonia and the family history [worried]

have to head out and get some food now as i seem to have forgotton everything on friday!

lbb, bless at luke in his cot... they dolook so tiny in them don't they? lol at you kicking dp, bet that went down well

woohoo, ds1 just did a proper poo on the toilet, not a teeny one, a proper big poo

i feel like starting a conga line a la 'look who's talking 2'

Hahaha PT I told dp when we watched that film a few months back that that would be us next year!

Dp has taken both the boys to a car boot sale. he came and woke me at 9 to ask if I wanted to go, but told him by the time I'd got ready, it'd prob be too late, so he went off without me! I have just had a nice hot bath, and am now thinking about doing the ironing. But I don't want to. But I will have to.
Looks like a lovely day again.
Hope you all have a good one

lbb... not of the ironing (i don't do any) but of the nice quiet house.

They came back just as I last posted, had some lunch and then dp took ds1 to the park. Luke is asleep and I have just done the ironing. Not very well because I'm rubbish at it, but I try!
Might settle down with my book now, or might just see what's going on on MN first

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