Sept 08: the thread for when they may start crawling, and there will definitely be some separation anxiety bawling ....

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Welcome ladies

Well, there's no crawling going on in our house, but there's defo some separation anxiety bawling going on .... tears, screaming, the works - oh joy!

Last night less perfect - T was up 3 times (11, 12, 1:30), but I resettled him each time within 10 minutes. He didn't seem remotely hungry, so he's now gone 4 nights without feeding from last feed at about 7pm until about 7am the next morning! The annoying thing is that I'll just get used to it, and then he will inevitably start teething (none so far) and the crap nights will begin again. Grrrr.

Nearly bought a mooncup the other day, but I'm a little scared. I've just had the most ridiculously heavy period, but it only lasted 2 days - like the same quantity of blood as one of my normal 4-5 day periods, but concentrated over a shorter time!

T doesn't attack my breasts, but he has developed a rather irritating habit of pinching my arms and/or hips (depending on where his free hand is) while he's feeding. I keep saying no and removing his hand, but he seems supremely unconcerned by my attempts at discipline.

Effy's big thing is kissing but she'll pull your hair to pull you in for a kiss, then bite with her two teeth as she's doing it. It really hurts but is lovely at the same time.

Since I turned the monitor off I don't know if she's waking in the night but she's settling herself before she starts crying loudly enough to wake me!

should i still be bfing during the day? cos i thought we were weaning i've gradually cut out the boobie. he only has it at noght now.
els still dream feeds about 3 times a night but he doesn't usually wake me, only if his boob has run out and he wants a change of side does he grizzle. The most annoying thing about his night habbits are because we still co-sleep he has to be touching its usually belly to belly, which makes me really warm which wakes me up more than anything.
els does the grabbing and twisting of boobie flesh.
cant believe effy is kissing sunshinemummy so

barnpot she's mad on it. She loves it when you kiss her but would do it back constantly if you let her.

I've given up bf all together and I'm really thankful. With the milk protein allergy I thought she was going to be on it forever. I'm working full-time so it's not really practical either.

barnpot I've gone back to bfing more in the day as A was waking more at night, and it seems to be working. I've only been offering 2 solid meals because he ate so much at them but when he's 8 months next week think I'll add lunch.
{wail}but solid meals take about 40 minutes or more, whereas bf is done in under 10...

So many months of feeding on demand and now I have to remember to feed him in the day instead!

Re croydon - that Starbucks is in the middle of nowhere! I could get to most of the nearby towns - Caterham, Tadworth etc, but something in Croydon or Purley Way would be better.

ds2 grabs at the top of my chest when feeding and scratches me to bits. Its very sore sometimes.

Dad phoned last night to say that Granny's ventilator was about to be turned off and then an hour later phoned again to say she'd passed away. It was very peaceful and as nice as it could be. I'm feeling ok about it just now.

debi. We'll all raise a glass to Granny with you

new croydon thread here so we stop annoying the rest of you!

Thinking of you debi, glad you got to see her a last time.

T has been a complete pain in the neck all day today - grumpy, clingy, feeding loads (mostly to shut him up). It eventually occurred to me to try giving him some teething powder, and when he opened his mouth for it I noticed a teeny tiny tooth. I'm such a bad mummy

sorry to hear the sad news debi. Hope you're ok.

I am sure my rib cage is bigger after having the dc's. The rest of me is going back to being skinny(ish) and my boobs aren't that different but everything feels tight around my chest.

digital I don't want to go back to my office job at all , its brain dead work and has a 30 min commute each way, not the sort of thing I want to be doing with small children. I will have to go for a few weeks to get my withheld materity pay. But I have lots of annual leave so I might only have to do a few weeks then I can stop.

hoopefully another bad mummy here . When I had ds I didn't notice his first tooth had come through, one of my friends noticed first!

Sorry to hear your news Debi,but glad it was peaceful and she was ready to go,hopefully that makes it a little easier

debi so sorry to hear your sad news. Hope you're ok.

debi my sympathies. Hope you take comfort from your visit.

hopefully am jealous. We have no teeth here, just lots of sore gums for months now.

notcitrus I found/am finding weaning a hell of a lot harder than milk feeding. Food takes ages to prepare, you have to think of good food every day and it's harder to do the 'if in doubt, feed'.

C is currently still asleep and is now an hour 'late' for her milk feed. I normally give her 2 milk feeds and her tea between 2 and 7, so god knows what she'll want when she wakes! Hey ho.

As DD mainly gets fed at nursery I tend to feed her similar things at the weekend (and I also have to be careful not to give her anything with dairy, eggs, seafood in it). She's had lots of veg (sweet potato, broccoli, carrot, spinach) with fish fingers. I maker her a special tom sauce which she has with the above or with pasta. I've also made her a cottage pie and done pasta with mince for her. She also has pitta bread with hummus. Oh and lots of fruit.

sorry about your sad news debs

imoscarsmum are you doing BLW or purees? I batch cook purees for the freezer and store things in hummous pots, so each one is a whole meal. No thoguht required, apart from on the one night a month i actually cook!
Still no teeth here!

to be honest carrie, tea is fairly easy as she just has what we had the night before, or something from the freezer if we had a takeaway, like we will tonight. DP batch cooked lots of individual fish pies and mac cheeses and I cook lots of batches of tomato sauce.
It's lunch I find tricky. we are mainly BLW - only spooning in broths, porridge, yogurts etc. To come up with something interesting every lunch i find this hard. I try to include veg & fruit with every meal, and we have lots of stuff in, but I have to try hard to not to give her cream cheese and bread every day!
Yesterday she had hard boiled egg, chicken strips and tomatoes. Today she had oaty cheese flapjack, tomatoes, cucumber, potato cake and a baby bel cheese and a banana. She eats a small amount of everything but drops alot, so it's also the clean up afterwards - we have a baby dan highchair and I am washing the cushion nearly every day! We also had change of clothes today as she poured water from the doidy all over herself.....when i think back to the snuggly feeds of milk in front of the TV, sigh

[whispers, as much as I'll miss her like mad when I go back to work - it will be physically easier in the day....]

And whilst I have nowt against purees (took some with us when we went away for the night recently), i do love the fact that i have never pureed anything except apples and she is chewing food brilliantly without teeth even. lunches out are so much easier too - taking a packed lunch with us and letting her get on with it.

Btw, has anyone ever experienced looks of disapproval re BLW? We went to a cafe in an animal park that made it very clear that you could only eat food purchased in there. DP went to order our food and I gave DD some bread and heated up her muffin in the microwave for baby food. The waiters didn;t say anything but we got some very dubious looks - I'm sure if it had been a pot of baby food they wouldn;t have bothered. i did feel a bit awkward, getting out a packed lunch for DD but waddya do?!!

best wishes debi

Currently locked myself out so am in library. question - to get out jar of food as it's teatime, or just bf again. oh yes lost my mobnile too hence online to contact friends... i am an idiot...

Much love to you all Debi xxx

I hope you got home ok NotCitrus!

Thanks for the recipe IMO, I'll be making them next week.

debi my sympathies, glad to hear it was peaceful.

meglet ah well, push for as much time off as possible!

I, on the other hand, rather enjoy my work. Don't mean that at all boastfully because I'm actually quite surprised that I've found it so easy to go back to. I thought it would be terribly wrenching. Probably makes me sound like a terrible mother.

THanks ILTMIMI. Luckily local Sainsburys has both accessible payphone (lots of call boxes on the high street, but would have to take baby in and buggy would probably be nicked, and couldn't hear anyway)and a cafe. Very glad to see MrNC come into the cafe with his bike - he's now working from home for a few more hours.

digi I'm hoping to feel the same way and remain convinced that two days of nursery will be good for A if I were working or not. Will see...

thanks everyone, really nice of you all to leave comments. I'm still ok but no doubt the funeral on Wed will be hard. Trying to sort flights up. I know the cost shouldnt be an issue and luckily we do have money but still a bit that it's going to cost about £650 to fly up and back.

digital I do love being at work. I'm back in my little part time job next week . It's just that my main job moved offices from 1 mile down the road to 25 miles away, so I really can't be bothered with it anymore. I'll have a go at it, but I don't think it will be practical with the dc's being small.

Ex P came round this afternoon and helpd with tea & bedtime. He is in a strangely good mood lately, either on happy pills or got a new girlfriend . Or had a personality transplant.

Sorry to hear about your Gran Debi. I hope the funeral can turn out to be an opportunity to commemorate your gran's life with other members of the family.

M went to the childmainder for a taster session for the first time today - I thought was being grumpy because of that this afternoon, but it turns out she has a temperature and she's been coughing loads poor love.

My boobs are being pummled and pinched too, also shouted at

re food, M doesn't seem to openly dislike much [except salmon], but there are only a few things she's been enthusiastic about yet - bread/toast/hot cross bun etc, broccoli, pear, brie , pasta (particularly with cheese sauce), baked potato oh yea and banana and walnut cake