Sept 08: the thread for when they may start crawling, and there will definitely be some separation anxiety bawling ....

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Welcome ladies

Well, there's no crawling going on in our house, but there's defo some separation anxiety bawling going on .... tears, screaming, the works - oh joy!

hmmmm... not convinced by either of those web links i'm afraid leonie. One is american (i find things often not comparable) and one was set up by a couple withh no background in the area.

ds2 is currently rear facing in the first class seat and has been since birth (cos i always hated my mamas and papas travel system one) I will be turning him forward facing when he is 20lbs (he is sitting up) for a couple of reasons. One is it is getting harder and harder to get him into the seat, i often bang his head on the door frame! and the second is that i do not like the way the seat is secured rear facing as much as forward facing. It ha a tendancy to work loose a little when rear facing ( i do check it every time)

Thanks for the sleep anecdotes - T is a shade worse than most, but not ridiculously bad. Although he has taken to starting his day at 6am... This means that technically he is only having one feed during the night, but I would much prefer it was 2 and that he would go back down after his 6am one!

God, the car seat thing - I haven't done any research for when T grows out of his rear facing maxi cosi one - we only have a tiny car so I suspect we'll be limited in what we can get in there, but he's not terribly strong in the neck back (sat late etc) so I'd like to keep him rear facing longer if possible.

Leonie - you're right about the rear facing and I know in rl I've also not managed to bite my tongue and have come across as preachy sometimes and that makes me feel bad as I'd hate to see someone having an acccident.

I thought 9 months was one of thw criteria for forward facing?

I really think it depends on the baby leonie I dont hold with all this "one rule for every child on the planet" thing. Ds1 went forward facing at 11 months as he was a small baby and did not sit up unaided til 9 months. Ds2 is a whole other ball game He is a BIG boy and has been advanced with all his developmental milestones such as rolling, head control and sitting. I simply CANNOT carry him in the infant seat anymore and his feet/legs were well over the edge and he was screaming every time we put him in it as it was so uncomfortable for him as he was very scrunched up. The rear facing seat I had was supposed to be until baby weighed 13 kgs, but maybe Ds2 is just big everywhere!!!

For the past 2 weeks I have had him in the Britax first class forward facing which - as someone else mentioned - only fits well in my car forward facing. I do have it in the reclined position so he is not actually sitting up per se, which the people at Babies R Us where I purchased the seat advised me to do.
Apparently, they are getting lots of babies now who need to go into a bigger seat before they are 9 months old, as they are bigger babies than average - and the guidleines are, of course, worked on an average size baby.

AFAIK, the current criteria for baby going in a forward facing seat is that they must be at least 9kgs (approx: 9 months of age for an average size baby) and able to sit up unaided. Ds2 fills both of those criteria and has done for some time.

Ds2 23lbs and just over 7 months old and I guess by your criteria leonie I am a bad parent.

lolli I was daft and started an AIBU thread...wont be doing that again!!!

Happy birthday Debs x

RE: waking....ds2 wakes during the night, especailly the first hour or so after going down, but we can usually settle him again, but his top front teeth are cutting and he is in pain Ds1 is a whole other story!!! We have caved in and are getting a double bed for him in his room so its easier/more comfy for me/dh to get in with him.....what I've come to, eh?

Rod?...back?.....

Still feel a bit rubbish, went to Osteopath last night re: back so am very sore - he thinks I have a calcium deficiency and I have some sort of problem with my knees too (a very long name, cant remember what).

Basically, I'm buggered

Have a good weekend ladies x

So is it Happy birthday.........MEGLET! today? Now what sort of cake shall we have, or shall we cut straight to the champagne truffles?

leonie I've found the carseat discussion very interesting, I've always heard that rear-facing is safer, and those crash test videos confirm why. But what's available to us in the UK (rightly or wrongly) by way of car seats and cars (the seatbelt in my car being too short to go round a rear facing toddler seat) I think we're all trying to make the best decisions we can with the information and resources we have. I know someone whose 2 year old was killed in a fairly innoccuous (sp?) looking crash as he had wriggled his arms out of his car seat harness. I will keep ds rear facing for as long as is practical, but when the time comes, I will face him forwards in a safe, well fitted seat, with the straps done up right, in the back of the car, drive safely and know that I've done what I reasonably can. Isn't that what so much of parenting is about?

becaroo....twenty three pounds?!!!!

with the american thing I only mean things are not comparable because OTHER regulations may differ, or the actual car seats themselves may differ. I am happy to go by British government guidelines, he will forward face at 20lbs.

I too have had a shit day- can you tel? DS1 has made me soooo mad with CONSTANT not listening/ shouting at me / doing the 'i-do-i-dont-i-do-i-dont thing endlessly

sigh...and breathe...and cup of tea

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plusone Sorry your day has been pants too Get some custard creams to go with your tea. Dunking is very theraputic!

meglet I knew there was something else I wanted to say in my post....Happy Birthday!! god knows you deserve it x

carrie Yes, 23lbs. It wasnt a typo!!! Its so weird though, after ds1 being the other end of spectrum. Ds2 is the same weight now as ds1 was at 12 months!

Ooh, quick question to those of you doing the purees....are any of you struggling with getting them used to lumpier stuff? Am going to do some cooking and freeze it this weekend and am going to mash it rather then blend it...any tips?

Re: pain from teething - I would recommend bickiepegs for the teething...they seem to give toby real relief.

TTFN x

becaroo my friend's baby boy is 26lbs at 7 months. He's ENORMOUS!

hi ladies, soory not been here for ages, but we've had a lot going on. last month we went to see the consultant again, he wasn't concerned about el's eye flickering, he was quite pleased with his social development, but did say tthat he is ohysically delayed, and suggested that he may have some mild ceribal palsay (SP?) so as you can imagine i've been beside myself for a while and locked myself inside with els, probably thinking it will all go away, stupid I know. In fact apart from family your the first people I've told. but I dont want any sympathy, I'm not about that, and things are looking hopeful for him, we are all ploughing our time into his physio even turned his room into a gym!!
hes just getting his 4th tooth, which is giving him some jip, but I think calpol is my new best friend. lol.
please forgive me but I've not read all the pages hope everyones weaning is going well. and 23lbs???? last tile els was weightd he was 12.5 and that was only a month ago take care all x

Nice to see you Barnpot, I've been thinking about you and Els.

I know you don't need anyones sympathy, but I would like to say I sorry this has happened to El's. You sound like you have managed to get passed the initial shock and are now putting your energy into the way forward. Putting a good spin on a not so good situation (imo) is the way forward if you want to keep your sanity.

M was 20lbs about a month ago, I daren't weigh him again

DG Is it awful, but that makes me feeel slightly better?!!

barnpot Yes, 23lbs...he's a whopper!

Re: Els....I would just like to tell you that when Tom, my eldsest, was a baby we were also told that he may have mild CP. Like you, I was beside myself. He was so small and tiny and everyone elses baby was doing things he wasnt Anyway, Tom does not have CP - or if he does it is so mild that it doesnt really affect him, apart from his speech, so I have put it out of my mind. Tom did not sit up unaided til he was over 9 months and also had some other delays such as babbling (he was a late talker) and with his fine fine motor skills.

I am sorry that Els had been given this possible diagnosis but I know that with you as his mum with your positive outlook he will do well x

Barnpot - sorry to hear your news,it must be a shock. I would say though that babies reach their milestones at such different times, it is hard to know if there is definitely a problem, unless it's really significant. 1 of my friends had a difficult birth,and her ds was followed up for 2 years in case of cp - they decided not in the end, but it took them that long to rule it out, which shows how hard it is to diagnose a possible slight case.

The other thing is that at least he's being monitored early on, so that should ensure you get all the necessary referrals, treatment, support and advice etc that you and he need.

And the fact that he's got a fab mummy who's so concerned, committed and positive will make all the difference

Happy belated birthday to debi and meglet meglet you sound amazingly strong with all you're contending with at the moment with your ex and forthcoming op

sleepwise -c is up loads some nights, she's stillin bed with me so ust feed her and we were doze off again,but some nights feels like am awake more than asleep. She's had a cold all week,with sea lion cough that's not helped matters, hasn't been eating so much, and been sick more, so guess all contributary factors.

Then dd1 has been awake more - other night up at 4am to go to the toilet, next 2 hours spent calling out to me that she's not tired til c awake also at 6 - they're allperky and cheerful and I feel like crying with exhaustion!

C ust had a whooping nap of about 20 minutes - she only has long naps in the day when dd1 hs gone to their gran's for the day

Barnpot - what's delayed with your ds? C has not long mastered sitting unsupported,and still occasionally keels over. She doesn't roll or have any interest in crawling, or tolerate being on her tummy, though is quite strong at standing. They are all so different in what they can do, and when

splish ds is the same as your dd - has been standing strongly since a few weeks old, has been sitting for a week, but still screams at tummy time and shows no inclination to move anywhere - sideways, forwards or backwards - under his own steam. Actually i'm quite glad coz dd moves more than enough for the two of them!

I'm going to go and spend this sunny bank holiday saturday in....ASDA! But I'm going with no kids so actually that's kind of a treat!

barnpot or (which ever you prefer) you're doing brilliantly

Hello ladies, I've been away from MN for a while and just now had a massive catch up. I've had my parents over for a week, with my little brother. You would think I'd be all rested and relaxed having had the grand parents over, looking after baby and letting my have a lie in or a nap, but hell no. My parents LOVE coming to London. They stay at a nice hotel (the other side of town), visit exhibitions and museums and leave my hungry 19 year old brother with me. Ironic, isn't it? I feel like I'm the one who's done the baby sitting here.

First of all, happy birthday to debi and meglet. Meglet, good idea to get fit in advance of your op. I have just started circuit training again and I love it. I sweat and I ache, but it's time just for me, alone. And if it helps shift the jelly accumulated in my arse and belly, all the better.

Barnpot, I'm not surprised about your shock, and I love your pride - you don't need anyone's sympathy, but I do hope you have all the support you need. More than anything, I tend to agree with the ladies that say that mild CP might be a bit of an extreme diagnosis at this early stage. All babies develop at different speeds and get there in the end. They are all different and find amazing ways to surprise you (and make you mad with worry). xxx

DG, Notcitrus, Starlight and Jenpet - what's the latest re: north london meet up in La Porchetta finsbury park? If the weather continues this good, we could even meet AT the park and have a picnic! There is a good playground for todlers and a decent caf.

News just in: Despite trying to make out she is the opposite, carriebo is actually a total lentil weaver !! I have proof, shocking proof. All this talk about routine, Gina F, super organised mum, brilliant potty training, etc - it's just a front isn't it?
Yes carriebo, we know where you went before Asda, and we know what you bought. Don't worry, I won't tell. But we're on to you...

oh, do tell! Carriebo is mr routine hero!

My lips are sealed, but I have new theory: Inside every routine queen there's a tiny bit of lentil weaver, and inside every lentil weaver there's a tiny bit of routine queen. Let's call it the yin and yang theory of Mumsnet.