Sept 08: the thread for when they may start crawling, and there will definitely be some separation anxiety bawling ....

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Welcome ladies

Well, there's no crawling going on in our house, but there's defo some separation anxiety bawling going on .... tears, screaming, the works - oh joy!

Humph, T was horrific for my shift last night (about 5 resettlings and 2 feeds between 10pm and 2:30am) and perfect for DP's - 2:30 onwards.

T keeps doing enormous mid-lunch poos. It is hugely annoying, particularly as he can't actually do the poo while in his high chair - I have to lift him out while he strains and he does it while I hold him. Then I have the dilemma of changing him (hugely messy when he's midway through lunch, and usually resulting in another whole change of clothes, and involving lots of screaming when he is removed from his beloved high chair) or let him sit in it for 10 mins, which he is supremely happy to do, yet seems totally gross.

don't want to jinx anything but ds2 has gone from 7.30pm to 7.15am without any milk 2 nights in a row. 2 nights ago he woke around 5 and whimpered on and of till 7. Last night I thought he'd slept till 5 was settled by dh then woke at 7.15. But when I said that to dh he gave me one of those looks that made me say uhoh what have I said wrong. Apparently he'd been up at 12.30 and 3 settling him and I hadn't heard a thing! Ooops. He did admit though that he hadn't been up for very long each time, he's got another cold and that was bothering him.

hopefully your dh might not like this idea but have you thought that maybe T was worse for you was because he thinks he'll get fed if you pick him up? Or was it unusual for him to be worse during your shift?
If I try to settle ds2 during the night he goes into meltdown and won't settle so now dh always goes to him as he settles fairly quickly for him usually.

And I leave ds2 in his nappy if he poos during a meal. I never change him the instant he does it in case there's still more to come. Saying that if he does poo while in the bumbo (still eating in that) it goes all up his back so I get my punishment for leaving him in it!

Imoscarsmum - going back on 15 July, full-time.
Lollyheart- started a new job on tues 14th april, p/t
Plusonemore- return to work September, 3 days a week. DS1&2 in nursery
Hopefully - theoretically going back part time in September, hoping to find an alternative. DS at childminder.
ILTMIMI - SAHM
Starlight - SAHM (unless anyone can find me affordable childcare for 2 preschoolers)
DebitheScot- probably going back 1st week in June (haven't actually told boss that yet), 3 days a week till summer then 2 from Sept. Ds1&2 at childminder.
Becaroo - SAHM - at least til ds2 is older or I get back to studying!
Ponymum - back at work f/t pending redundancy, then panic
Kagey - return to work approx 14th July, part time (3 days a week if boss agrees). DD at Nursery.
NotCitrus - return 3 days early August, pfb in nursery 2 days, with MrNC on his day off. Have nursery arranged but their spaces for Aug and my start date and what project I'll get to do are still up in the air.
Pacita - going back, gradually over the next month. Will start from home, end up doing 3 days a week. (this is the plan)
Digitalgirl - hoping to start freelancing before the end of May, but currently searching for a part-time job - 3 days a week.
CarrieBo - SAHM

I was going to ask that exact same question about breastfeeding. I don't intend to feed ds beyond a year, and I'm more than slightly shocked to have made it to nearly 7 months. He's only on 3 feeds a day, with the odd extra sneaky feed if I don't think he's had enough drink with his lunch! I agree that the first feed in the morning is much easier as a bf, but in the evenings I give him a bottle followed by boob, and have to say I prefer the bottle. But even so, I can't quite bring myself to decide to stop, i'm really hoping he self-weans so I don't have to decide! Will def stop by 11 months coz we're going away for the weekend without the dcs! I have absolutely no concept of how long people continue bf for.

Imoscarsmum - going back on 15 July, full-time.
Lollyheart- started a new job on tues 14th april, p/t
Plusonemore- return to work September, 3 days a week. DS1&2 in nursery
Hopefully - theoretically going back part time in September, hoping to find an alternative. DS at childminder.
ILTMIMI - SAHM
Starlight - SAHM (unless anyone can find me affordable childcare for 2 preschoolers)
DebitheScot- probably going back 1st week in June (haven't actually told boss that yet), 3 days a week till summer then 2 from Sept. Ds1&2 at childminder.
Becaroo - SAHM - at least til ds2 is older or I get back to studying!
Ponymum - back at work f/t pending redundancy, then panic
Kagey - return to work approx 14th July, part time (3 days a week if boss agrees). DD at Nursery.
NotCitrus - return 3 days early August, pfb in nursery 2 days, with MrNC on his day off. Have nursery arranged but their spaces for Aug and my start date and what project I'll get to do are still up in the air.
Pacita - going back, gradually over the next month. Will start from home, end up doing 3 days a week. (this is the plan)
Digitalgirl - hoping to start freelancing before the end of May, but currently searching for a part-time job - 3 days a week.
CarrieBo - SAHM
Sunshinemummy - was due back f-t on 2nd March but got made redundant. F-t in new role since 23rd March

sunshinemummy & ponymum I'm in awe of you going back f/t to work. I'm doing same but not for 3 months, and keep telling myself it'll never arrive .
I know I'll cope once we settle into a new routine but one thing is bothering me - when do you give your baby their tea?
I ask as I'll probably pick C up around 5.15pm ish but at the moment she has her tea between 4.30 and 5. The nursery gives them a snack at 3pm and will give them their tea, if you provide it. I have no idea what to do - do i send her tea with her every day, frankly it'll be a bit of a pain as i am trying to homecook all her meals? Or do we try to push her tea back to 5.30/6 so she gets used to eating then?
Any ideas from your experiences?

imoscarsmum My DS has his tea at 6:30ish so we can all eat together, - although being the SE we call it dinner.

I give DS a snack at around 3-4 ish (yoghurt and/or fruit usually)

imoscarsmum I don't pick the kids up until 18:00 so mine have dinner at nursery at around 16:00. When we get home DS (3) is starving so he has bananas and milk and Effy will often have half of a bottle, which she'll finish later at bedtime.

I should be able to come up with a funny reply to the tea/dinner comment but too tired!
Thanks for comments - C tends to get very tired around 6.30 some nights, but I'm hoping this will get better as she gets older. She'll be 10 months old when I go back to work.

Starlight think it was you mentioned unsalted cheese the other day. What brand? Apart from ricotta, I can't find any cheese that is unsalted (or am I being dense?)

So for Leeds I think we originally had barnpot, ninja, carriebo, and mamamuffin did you say carriebo?, maybe not ponymum , me, and debs75.
I've tried to FB those I could but don't have everyone as friends or don't know what their names are! Help!

Imoscarsmum - going back on 15 July, full-time.
Lollyheart- started a new job on tues 14th april, p/t
Plusonemore- return to work September, 3 days a week. DS1&2 in nursery
Hopefully - theoretically going back part time in September, hoping to find an alternative. DS at childminder.
ILTMIMI - SAHM
Starlight - SAHM (unless anyone can find me affordable childcare for 2 preschoolers)
DebitheScot- probably going back 1st week in June (haven't actually told boss that yet), 3 days a week till summer then 2 from Sept. Ds1&2 at childminder.
Becaroo - SAHM - at least til ds2 is older or I get back to studying!
Ponymum - back at work f/t pending redundancy, then panic
Kagey - return to work approx 14th July, part time (3 days a week if boss agrees). DD at Nursery.
NotCitrus - return 3 days early August, pfb in nursery 2 days, with MrNC on his day off. Have nursery arranged but their spaces for Aug and my start date and what project I'll get to do are still up in the air.
Pacita - going back, gradually over the next month. Will start from home, end up doing 3 days a week. (this is the plan)
Digitalgirl - hoping to start freelancing before the end of May, but currently searching for a part-time job - 3 days a week.
CarrieBo - SAHM
Sunshinemummy - was due back f-t on 2nd March but got made redundant. F-t in new role since 23rd March
Jenbot - um, not decided yet.

Carriebo No toddler here, I'm not hardcore at all, I'm the exact opposite! I'm just usually near N London but will be visiting Leeds next week so I can do both meets. (Actually, I only said I'd go to the N London meetup in the hope that Starlight would be going, not sure I'd be confident on the tube yet alone :bigbabyemoticon
Star, can we meet at the station and help each other with prams and stairs please?
Hopefully we grow veg, and we have no technique or skill tbh. We just throw seeds towards the ground and some thrive and some don't. We've had allsorts! Tons of basil and other herbs the year before last which we made into jars and jars of tasty fresh pesto!
pacita Yep, I am on FB for the N London meet up. Let me go see if I have you as a friend... ah I do, will message you!

Having one of those guilty moments - A has refused to have an afternoon nap today, so got more and more grouchy but every time I lay him down he either just played and stayed awake, or screamed blue murder.

So I put him in his rocking swing and the screaming stopped, so I left him to it.
He's now fast asleep folded in half with his head on the table. Normally I feed him round 7 for bedtime half an hour later... not sure what to do now. Feel like I'm neglecting him leaving him there but he's obviously comfortable...

Think he's doing more teething, and he keeps acting like he's pooing only not. And he's realised that there's a world beyond his reach, and it's pissing him off no end.

I keep getting logged out of Mumsnet - most annoying...

Hello ladies, Ok, I'm going to venture some dates for the N. London lunch, which is looking like will take place at la Porchetta (DG you ok with the porchetta in stroud green? I know you've got one in Muswell Hill too...). I am free any day next week except Monday and the weekend, when the parents descent upon us from Spain.

I need to start giving up feeds, as I currently always offer boobies after each feed, plus the mid morning and mid afternoon are milk feeds. I have no idea which one to give up. Help!

Carriebo, you mention that you give both bottle and boob before bed. Can I ask you what milk (e.g. is it continuation or normal?) and how much of each you give?

In fact, for those of you using formula, have you switched to the continuation milk from 6 months?

Pacita since having C I have turned into huge cynic when it comes to 'baby stuff'. We are sticking with SMA Gold till she's a year, then will switch to full fat cows' milk.
She likes the milk, is eating a varied diet (albeit small portions) full of fruit and veg and i personally think the follow on milks are a marketing rip off. SMA Gold actually prints that it is fine for up to 12 months old and there is no need to switch if baby is happy.

If you (the 'royal' you, not you personally) are really concerned about your LO's iron intake, then I guess they do have their place, but I think you'd have to have a pretty crap diet and/or medical reasons to go onto follow on milk.

I guess they have to cater for the 'McDonald's mums' - ooh, I should put my claws away before i scratch myself

Ooh, btw, C ate her first piece of tangerine today - peel, pith and all. Previously she's just sucked it and spat out the empty skin.

Pacita I switched to the follow on milk just because the easy digest one she was on was getting trickier to track down. Otherwise I would stuck like Imoscarsmum. I have found the new milk is a lot foamier though .

Stroud Green Porchetta is good for me. Sorry I've been incommunicado I'm feeling really unwell. Think I've caught ds's stomach bug have been wanting to vom all day and have slept during all his naps. Currently mning in bed on phone.

I idly compared the difference between newborn and follow on Hipp Organic, and the differences in the various nutrients were all in the mili/micro gram area, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to stay on first stage milk!

Debi T was unusually bad last night for me - normally he's much the same for both of us (luckily - I'm sure DP would be thrilled if I announced he was doing the nights from now on if T was worse for me). I suspect he was a bit hungry, then the two feeds from me in quick succession conked him out for the rest of the night.

Can't do tuesday or the weekend next week. Can do Monday, weds or Thursday the week after. Right am turning this off now. Hurts my eyes.

Yowzers crawling and cruising babyLeonie!! pacita I use cow and gate no.1 formula (green box). It hadn't occured to me to change which one ds has. He has 4oz in a bottle followed by as much boob as he wants which is usually one side. His dinner is at 5ish pm, and bottle/boob at about 6:45 once he's been bathed and excema creamed and dressed in his pjs.

Aha, it's funny to see how many of you are not bothering with the follow on milk. Being a neurotic, first time mother, of course I bought some! Hell, at least it won't hurt. Imo, LOL about McDonalds mums.

DG, so sorry you are feeling crap. I must have had that stomach bug too, as I was throwing up 3 nights ago. It's cleared now, but it had me feeling quite crap for a couple of days. Make sure you rest, keep up your fluids. It is possible that a good old 'clearout' will leave you feeling better.

North London meet: I'm happy with any day next week (except Tuesday) but can't do the following week. How about Jenpot, notcitrus and Star?

Leonie your LO sounds pretty advanced. Diego has rolled a few times, but mostly lies there, sits almost unaided (but not quite) and does not show any signs of even knowing what crawling is.... He babbles a lot and knows his name, though, so maybe he's one of those kids who do the communication before the physical stuff. Apparently they do either one or the other first, as I learn in this thread. Or am I mixing things up?

I bought follow on milk because it's sometimes on special offer so is cheaper! Figured it doesn't really matter which he's drinking.

He's got a horrid cold too and is so bunged up he's really struggling to drink anything. Yesterday he had 1oz in the aft instead of his usual 6 and then 3oz at bedtime instead of 8oz. he had to work so hard to get it and was really struggling to breathe. Poor wee man.

We call it tea not dinner. Friends of ours call it supper which I think is just weird!

N London I can't do next week, I'm busy meeting Leeds MNers!
But if it suits everyone else I'll just have to come next time instead.

Leonie wow, almost walking already!

We had a good night last night, fed at 11, woke at 3, went back to sleep without a feed (1st time in weeks!), then up at 6.30.