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March 09 - The spring babies have sprung

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jollyjoanne · 18/03/2009 12:17

Thought I'd start us up a post-natal thread for the new mummies of March 09 (or thereabout!)

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jollyjoanne · 07/05/2009 11:01

Morning all, Mae has been for her jabs this morning, she seemed OK with it. Just crossing my fingers that there are no adverse reactions.

However, I'm knackered back to 2 feeds last night and I had difficulty getting back to sleep.

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pintofstella · 07/05/2009 13:02

wheely How's it going with the MIL?

lilymolly Sorry to hear you've had similar problems to me. My cracked nips eventually healed when my MW came out and checked my latch. George just wasn't opening his mouth enough. I am so careful when I put him on now and they have healed beautifully. My nipple thrush was treated was Nystaform. I also developed piles last week. They were agony to start with but aren't bothering me now so I'm going to pretend they are not there!

I am very jealous about your sleeping baby. I think I have given birth to son of Satan as he wakes up every hour or so .

fearless I have the same problem trying to get George to sleep. He was awake from 3.30pm until 10.30pm last night. He was desperately tired but screamed as soon as I put him down. The only way I can easily get him to sleep is to take him for a walk but that's not possible in the evening when DH is at work and DS1 is in bed. Have just ordered a Miracle Swaddling blanket to see if that works. I'll try anything!

lula It sounds like your LOs are the same age as mine. DS1 will be 6 in August. My DH works shifts and I am on my own in the evening this week. Had a nightmare time last night as DS2 was wide awake and cried every time I put him down whilst I was trying to do tea, bath and bed for DS1.

To make matters worse, DS1 has come home from school poorly today. He was off all last week with an ear infection. DH took him to the doctors before and now has an ear infection in the other ear .

It's going to be a long day as DH doesn't finish until 10pm. Is it too early for a pint of stella I wonder?

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pintofstella · 07/05/2009 13:34

lula I agree with you about the forgetting. When we talked about having another baby I think we only remembered the good bits. I'd forgotten how hard it was being on my own doing the evening shift when DH is working.

DS1 has also had recurrent ear problems and had grommets when he was 2.5. We thought his ear problems were over and I'm hoping that this is an isolated incident.

I'm also going to miss out on my nap today and boy could I use it!

meep · 07/05/2009 14:16

pintof I was the opposite - I only remembered the bad newborn bits from dd1 - so it has been quite lovely with Rosie as she is so much more chilled (or maybe I'm just so much more chilled). Maybe that's what happens with a small age gap?

Sounds rough having no dh in the evenings. I have just had to deal with Rosie wailing wanting milk and dd1 wailing because she was tired and therefore refusing to eat any lunch. You have my utmost respect for having to deal withit on your own every night. Hope your DS1 gets better soon.

Both in bed now though. Rosie is awake but just chirping away to herself - she will either start to wah or conk out (and if I make myself a cup of coffee she is guranteed to start to wah !)

I made t out to soft play today with the two of them (oh it is great to be able to drive again) - Rosie slept the whole time and I was even able to have a coffee and chat with a friend.

sending sleepy vibes to all the babies for tonight....

meep · 07/05/2009 14:40

cup of coffee just made

Rosie is going "wahhhhhhhhhhhwah wah wah wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

Ach well...........

Wheelybug · 07/05/2009 16:02

Hi all

slick - Lara's jabs had to be postponed because they scheduled them for 7 weeks and 6 days and she has to be 8 weeks (they sent me the appointment !!). Glad Boab is ok.

Pintofstella - Its going ok with MIL thankfully - keeping busy ! Her being up meant I could take Lara to jabs without dd1 in tow (although she didn't have them !), go to a baby massage/breastfeeding session session with Lara today and go to my bookclub tonight (if I'm feeling energetic !). So, has been helpful I have to admit.....

My DH isn't in for bed either. This time round at least he is home about 8 - 8.30. With DD1 he wasn't in much at all in the evenings. The combination of the economic climate and him recovering from a serious illness means he gets home 'early'. So silver linings and all that . Mind you, I don't even attempt to put Lara into bed at a normal time but she does tend to scream through stories. We have a 4 year gap and had forgotten the pain of sleeplessness .

I spoke to a bf counsellor today and it turns out Lara has really bad tongue tie which may account for pain still with feeding and wind. She said we ought to get it cut asap. Thankfully it looks like our insurance will cover it privately. lily - have you considered this with Matthew ?

Wheelybug · 07/05/2009 18:40

just put a new pic of dds on profile if nyone wants a look ?

jollyjoanne · 07/05/2009 19:42

Wheely your dds look lovely.

We went to another baby massage class today but this time Mae screamed all the way through - typical. But I think it was the after effects of the injections. She has had her calpol now so she is seeming a bit cheerier.

My DH will be working 2-10 next week so I'll be doing the evenings on my own, I am quite worried about it, but at least I only have 1 LO to deal with.

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lilymolly · 07/05/2009 19:42

wheelybug

yes we have it checked and its not tongue tie.

I think he is a very strong sucker who emptys the breast and is satisfied after about 10 mins ...meanwhile my old nips take the strain

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meep · 08/05/2009 06:44

........when Michael is about 18 lula [grin!

No, honestly, you can get out to do fun stuff as soon as you feel up to it. I must admit that I have this new little sensible voice inside me these days so that I don't stay out too late or get too drunk - I think I value sleep more!

With dd1 I think I had my first night out when she was about 3mo and it was so much fun. It was with my antenatal group so we were all happy to just talk babies all night. The first night out I had with non-baby friends wasn't so good as I felt I had nothing to say as I didn't want to bore them with baby chat!

I've been up since 5am! But then have been in bed since 9pm! DH fed Rosie at around 11pm and she slept till 5am - whoo hoo! If only it were like that every night!

wheely love the new pic - smiley girls!

meep · 08/05/2009 10:10

I think there has been some awful stuff about a thread hedge started regarding domestic violence. It's been deleted now and I didn't see her original thread. Just wanted to say that if you are reading this thread HW, I hope everything is okay.

Wheelybug · 08/05/2009 12:01

Hope everythings ok Hedgewitch.

3cutedarlings · 08/05/2009 12:26

Just been reading posts no time to reply, just spotted meeps post about HW ive not seen the thread but ive just checked my FB as we were friends on there and it appears that her account is no longer there HW if you are reading this you know where i am get in touch if i can help or if you just need a friend.

pintofstella · 08/05/2009 13:27

Hello girls

meep Congratulations on venturing out of the house with the two of them. Sounds like you had fun.

Thankfully my DH doesn't do evenings every week. He managed to finish early last night as DS1 was poorly so that was a blessing.

I had a better night with DS2 last night but DS1 was awake all night with his poorly ear. His eardrum had burst in the night and he's got a load of gunk in his hair .

He's off school again today but seems much brighter. Hopefully the ABs will kick in today.

wheely What a nuisance about Lara's jabs. I bet you'd psyched yourself up too. Sorry to hear about your DH's illness. Hope he's on the mend. It's good that Lara's tongue tie has been diagnosed. When will the procedure take place? Do they give them a local anaesthetic?

I love the pictures of your girls. Beautiful!

lula Well done for settling Michael! My Miracle Swaddling Blanket has arrived today so I'm going to give it a whirl tonight.

Thankfully DH is back on days today so he'll be around this evening. My dad came up before to look after DS2 and I went for a nice walk with George and the dog. Taking him for a walk is always guaranteed to knock him out. He's asleep in his pram in the garden now and has been asleep for nearly 3 hours. My boobies are telling me that it's feeding time at the zoo .

Quick question for the breastfeeders? Are you still wearing a bra at night? I went without last night but my boobs felt very sore and heavy.

Wheelybug · 08/05/2009 14:00

pintofstella - thanks for your nice comments (and everyone elses on the girls !) - they don't always look this happy but was nice to capture it.

I hope DS1 is feeling better soon.

DH is on the mend although we're not really sure whether he's going to make a 100% recovery but he's much better. To cut a long story short he developed a rare condition which came to a head in september which led to swelling on the brain. It still effects his balance a bit when he's tired, which he obviously is a lot at the moment. He's been told he'll improve until 12 months after and then probably no more. He is back to work but is a corporate lawyer so we're not enturely sure whether, once the economy picks up and he has long transactions to do, whether he'll be up to it. But, we remain philosophical and will deal with it when it happens - We've learnt to take what life throws at us over the last few years and to be grateful for what we do have. Oh god, and that was the short version - sorry.

Lara is having her tongue tie cut on thursday - jabs on wednesday, this on thursday. Poor girl. Apparently they use an anaesthetic gel and its v.v. quick. Trying not to think about it and to think its better its done now...

Finally, I don't wear bras at night and seem to be ok - although I went out yesterday evening to my bookclub so didn't feed Lara as much as I would normally do. I gave her a quick feed when I came in but then when she woke me at about 5 I was lying in a puddle of milk. Nice .

lulabellarama · 08/05/2009 14:36

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Missmodular · 08/05/2009 19:41

Hi there, I've not posted for a while because these days I barely get time to go to the loo, let alone check my email and this thread - the joys of two under three Am making the most of DP putting DD1 to bed...

Regarding cosleeping, I've been doing it from day one and I must say it works for me. Melissa goes to bed with me, which tends to be around 10.30pm and usually wakes twice in the night for a feed, which doesn't disturb me much because I don't have to get out of bed! I am a very light sleeper though, and so is DP - I would be more wary of doing it if either of us were fidgeters or sleepwalkers.

pintofstella, I recommend the Mothercare sleeping bras. I have to wear them in bed otherwise I wake up drenched in milk

Does anyone know what the recommended amount of time is for dummy usage? I'm using the orthodontic ones but I feel like I'm beginning to rely on it a bit too much to settle Melissa during the day, although I don't use it at all at night. I wish I had more time to rock her to sleep like I used to do with DD1 but I just don't have that luxury this time round

laumiere · 08/05/2009 20:19

Hi all, just popped to sing the praises of a decent HV for once!

I had a rotten time yesterday with a teething Gabriel, snapped when I tried to get him in the sling so I could take DS1 out (he loves being outdoors)and smacked a door, waking DH who had only been in bed for 3 hours. DH stayed up, helped me with kids and was not at all angry, then went to do his 12 hr shift.

Today was heading the same way, HV rang at 11 to see how I was doing and asked if I'd like to see someone. She came over at 2, held G so I could make tea, brought a bookbag over for DS1 with new books and did his developmental check there so I didn't have to go to hospital. It was sooooo good to talk to an adult and have someone tell me I was doing a good job!

jollyjoanne · 09/05/2009 14:40

Afternoon all.

PintofStella I still wear bras at night the boobs are massssssssive and so not confortable without support, they also leak so don't really like the damp patches on my top without the breastpads on.

Laumiere glad you had a decent HV, mine was OK too although she used to be a midwife so this may be why she was relatively sensible. But when I told my midwife which HV was coming she said 'oooh what did you do to get xxx'. I'm not quite sure if that was good or bad. But I think it could be safe to say that my local council / health authority have taken the Baby P thing rather to heart and we have had much more support than others who had, had babies only a few months previously.

Oh and I definitely second the need for adult company, I really appreciated going back to work for an afternoon, not that I love work but it was just nice to chat to an adult and to not have to talk about babies unless I wanted to.

Also just a warning / tip re the jabs. Mae was a bit grumpy after her jabs and became really clingy to me so much that even my mum couldn't hold her for a few minutes while I went to the loo without her screaming. But my mum did bring the baby calpol with her and after an hour or so she was almost back to herself. So my strong recommendation is to get some calpol or something similar ready to give your LOs after the jabs if you want to avoid having a very hard to settle baby.

Wheely good luck for Wed and Thurs in case I forget nearer the time.

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jollyjoanne · 09/05/2009 17:45

Hedge didn't read your other post bit, so really don't know the situation but just wanted to say that I hope you and your family are OK and that we are still here in the March 09 thread to offer any support we can.

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lulabellarama · 09/05/2009 19:21

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jollyjoanne · 09/05/2009 20:06

Hi Lula depends how she seems normally we wind her after feeding her and then just put her in the cot sometimes she just drifts off on her own sometimes not (but we always try it first), during the day when she is napping I normally give her a dummy and she sucks that till she falls asleep, if she doesn't sleep at night I put my knees up, under the duvet, and rest her against them cover her with a blanket and leave her there, generally I will just watch tv, so she isn't getting my full attention just enough to know she is safe an whether she has fallen to sleep sometimes I rock my legs a little (even if she cries I try not to react too much if I know that all her needs are met - ie shes fed, clean etc) but normally she just likes to see me/her dad and then when she drops off we move her to her own bed.

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corgikelly · 09/05/2009 21:05

WHY is it so hard to find the time to respond to all the stuff people post? Obviously I need to get better at typing one-handed at 2 a.m. The reading I?ve got down ? the typing, not so much. Apologies in advance for what will be a marathon post ? but if I don?t do it now, it?ll be another two weeks before I?m organised enough to get back on!

Okay, we?re nowhere near Fat Boab territory, slick, but perhaps Belgian paediatricians are easily impressed. Rhys has put on 1 kg and 2.5 cm in 2 weeks, so it?s gratifying to see that this boobjuice stuff is doing what it should.

We bought a swing for him yesterday ? he quite liked it in the store, but now seems profoundly ambivalent about the whole thing. Grump.

pintofstella and fearless, we?ve also got a non-sleeper. The miracle blanket makes a big difference at night, though ? he?s still very tricky to put to sleep, but the tight swaddle really keeps him asleep longer than he would otherwise, as he will invariably startle himself awake without it.

laweasel, the funny thing is that when I went back to the paed yesterday she?d completely changed counsel ? said that basically for the first three months what?s important is doing what the baby needs, to the extent practicable/possible! While I did wonder if I?d gotten her evil twin the first appointment, I was happy to hear her now, as I agree, I?d found her take very off-putting.

Oh lord, loli ? teething + morning sickness? Poor you!

lilymolly, piles are no laughing matter ? they?re why DP came nowhere near me for the last five months of pregnancy! And I love my bed too ? why haven?t I passed that gene on to Rhys?

jolly and wheely, we started a baby massage course last week ? I think Rhys will enjoy it, though he did lose the plot a bit about halfway through so I couldn?t practice any of the back strokes. Maybe next time. The teacher said massaged babies tend to lose their startle reflex sooner than not, which is reason enough for me to do it. HATE the startle reflex. HATE it.

AND we?re going to a baby-wearing workshop next week, so I am hoping to conquer my fear of the 4-meter fabric. With my mum here, I?ve completely lost the ability to multitask ? it?s been so splendidly luxurious being able to hand Rhys over to her. When she goes, which thank GOD won?t be for another couple of weeks, bless her, I?m going to have to get that skill back, and I?m counting on the sling to help me out. If the sling is still a no-go after the workshop, I?ll follow in meep?s and wheely?s footsteps and try out a close.

jolly, Mae is gorgeous ? so feminine and sweet!

wheely, meep, laumiere and 3cute, thanks for the positive visions of the future; I know I get locked into a ?this is the way it is and this is the way it will always be, oh woe oh woe is me? mindset and I just need to keep in mind that things WILL change. Right now, he?s just so bloody inconsistent! Two nights ago = bad night: slept for exactly 40 minutes, 20 minutes, and 20 minutes between 10pm and 7am ? was either feeding or squalling/grizzling the rest of the time. Last night = good night: settled at 10 and woke up to feed at 12 and 3. Then awake again at 4, which is his personal witching hour, and DP took him to sleep out on the couch until 7.

Does anyone else?s baby?s brain short-circuit in the evening hours, making them forget how to nurse? At his 6pm and 8pm feeds, Rhys will usually end up squalling because after feeding for 5 minutes, he?ll decide to position his wide-open mouth, baby-bird-like fashion, just above my nipple and shake his head back and forth while militantly refusing to actually DO anything. It?s simultaneously funny, sad and immensely frustrating!

elsy, I?ve given up dairy for the past two weeks ? but my general concern is that babies are just a bundle of multiple factors. How do you isolate the positive effect any one thing might be having? Maybe he?s feeling better because I gave up dairy ? or maybe it?s because he?s a week older or because he had an extra nap or because it?s overcast instead of raining?

fearless, snorting at both of us having given the proverbial finger to the Baby Whisperer?as you say, the need for survival gangs the best-laid plans totally agley, as it were!

pintofstella, I?m still wearing a bra at night because I need something to stick the breast pads in ? otherwise, it?s the wet-t-shirt look for me.

wheely, sorry to hear about your DH ? what a rotten thing to have to cope with so much uncertainty. Fingers crossed that all will continue to improve for him.

Right ? DP is doing a hero?s job of coping with a squalling baby, so I?m going to go sterilise my breast pump?and try using it for the first time tomorrow. Big step! (erm, I?m assuming you can sterilise at night and use in the morning?)

Sleepy vibes going out to all who need 'em.