Dec 08 - Nanny Anne's Apprentices.

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Thread started - hope i've done it right!!

I never had to do a dissertation for my degree, I did an extra module with an exam instead. Too lazy tbh

hello girls!

Just a quick one as I'm sewing straps on to a dress...

Am singing at this concert at the opera house tomorrow morning here. Just wanted to say if anyone is burning the midnight oil you can tune in online to the live stream here - hopefully it will work in the UK and is not just an Australian thing. Unfortunately though the concert starts at 11am Auz time, which is midnight over there (I think?) I sincerely hope you and your LOs will all be fast asleep at that time, but if anyone happens to be awake, then I'm on pretty close to the start of the concert I think. Although I'm only singing 13 bars of music so it will be a brief stint! I'm very excited about the celebs that will be there though - Neil Finn from Crowded House (I love love love his music), and Cate Blanchett is performing in it too!

Smooches to all & hope to catch up properly soon! xx

bisou how exciting! I've bookmarked the website, am hoping they'll put it on listen again! Ds2 loves his classical music, I've got it on now & he sounds like he's trying to sing along!

hello.

P fed every 2 hours again last night and was awake between some of them as well. I blame the Ubersnot. The result - a tired and emotional Traceface. Keep weeping but only in a tired way.
My lack of memory is seriously bothering me too. Yesterday afternoon I had a moment where I thought "oh no! I didn't take Lucy to school today" but as she wasn't with me I figured she must be there - I had NO RECOLLECTION of taking her at all. Worrying. And it's happening quite a lot. odd.
ZJ - we've only 'done the deed' a couple of times and to be honest I'm not that keen because I find it a bit painful. Has anyone else found that? Is it one of those 'the more you do it the easier it gets' things? It feels a bit like my wedding night but without the exciting bit - just the painful bit! (yes we waited...!). I guess ZJ if Mr ZJ is not pushing you then just do it when you feel ready. As for smears...mine was a bit uncomfortable but not too bad, and only very brief. Hope yours was ok PD.
My house needs vacuuming and dusting but I just can't motivate myself to do either.

just read that back and it sounds very grumpy and negative. Sorry about that. I'm loving the sunny day today and am sure to perk up with a little chocolate

Bisou I really hope they put it on listen again too. I think it is really exciting seeing your name in the list of highlights!!

Trace I am very forgetful. I actually forgot to taken DS2 to bed last night. I went up, had a wash, got ready for bed and DH called up to tell me!!

The Apprentice starts tomorrow, I can't wait.

Bisou wow! and you are listed as a highlight as well! I won't be able to watch it live but if anyone is able to post a link to it tomorrow I'd love to see you performing. Enjoy!

SL Soz if I sounded like I was having a go re BLW - it became a bit of a battlefield last time once I'd gone back to work so I guess I'm used to getting a bit defensive about it. BTW just had a sneaky peek at your profile and see you're a programmer. I'm always intrigued by women programmers as I did it myself for 3 years and only worked with 2 in all that time. Do you find that people are a bit when you tell them what you do for a living? I did but I've never figured out why (although I have my theories).

trace as smears go mine was pretty "uncomfortable", as they say. Bloody nurse left the speculum in for ages when she'd finished as well while she busied herself doing other stuff.

Oh and hello to BabyMakes4 - was offline when you started to post I think.

Right I really do have to win the lottery now. I have found my dream house in the paper.

Me again(can you tell DH has taken Freddie to the job centre with him).

About weaning, I'm not planning to wean Dylan yet but I'm giving him a cuddle and he was making a grab for my sandwich!!!

Hello everyone,

zoe You could perhaps give it a go as if you do have any problems it is a good time to mention it I suppose. We've only done it a few times it was a bit painful and I had a c-section, no idea what's going on there. Perhaps the lack of action is the problem . I finally had my smear yesterday - I had to postpone it due to my period arriving and the nurse had trouble finding my cervix, not a problem daisy has I expect! Do both your wombs have the potential for pregnancy daisy? Sorry to be nosy.

I think your husband needs a kick up the bum daisy, how very naughty.

WG Glad to hear you are feeling better and DD has been in a nice snuggly mood after her jabs. I don't think it gets better than having a beautiful baby snuggle up on you for a sleep.

trace Still no meeting date . Perhaps we should just arrange something and I'll get DH to work from the York office that day?! What days are best for you Yorkshire ladies? Poor you, what a difficult night. I'd leave your cleaning for another day and go for a mood boosting stroll in the sunshine.

bisou How very exciting! Is there a listen again function? I'd love to see you perform.

kayz Gracious, what a scare! Good luck for your DH's application.

We went to a really busy baby and toddler group for the first time this morning. DD was so amazed to see so many children she looked round open mouthed for a while and then nodded off.

Jolly I have indeed been pregnant in both wombs. It was only discovered I had 2 wombs when I had DD, and at the time the consultant said it was her belief that I could only get pregnant on one side and any other pregnancies would all be in that side. However, the surgeon who did my c-section was highly amused when he informed me DS was in the other side So yes I have two fully functioning wombs, and in theory could have got pregnant again whilst pregnant but that was like about a zillion to on chance I think. I think I'm a tad greedy having two wombs and might considering flogging one on E-bay...one careful aowner and all that

bisou good luck for tonight I bet you'll be amazing

Wow daisy that's amazing. I bet the consultant was very interested in you. A medical marvel in our midst. Does that mean you get two periods a month? Golly I am nosy , feel free to ignore me!

LadyT Are you OK? You haven't been around for a few days since your leg operation, I don't think. Hope your absence is because you are racing around being busy rather than sore pins.

No I only get one if I'm on the pill. But now you mention it I used to have a really short cycle at a High school and it was very, very heavy - maybe thats why! It would make sense.

daisy, wow that is fascinating! I was going to say about an episode of Grey's Anatomy I'd seen but I won't!

Quick question, has anyone given Calpol for teething? Ds2 seems to be really hurting & the powders & various teethers we have aren't doing the job for him. I'm just wary of the age limits now for Calpol, but I know the dosing etc so surely it would be ok?

Hiya

I am afriad I am too ill for a proper post but would like I am lurking and would like to thank you all for keeping me amused with your dissertation topics and medical curiosities.

This mastitis is terrible. By 11am yesterday my temp was hovering round 40C and I was on agony. DH had to rush home from work. I got ABs but so far to little affect. The Dr says if I am like this tomorrow it's off to hospital for IV ABs. DH is still home as I am bedridden and he is a total star.

I have a quick question. Today DD2 has very painful wind and diorhea. Is that likely to be the ABs in my milk or should she see a dr too. Also I have not eaten for nearly 48 hours but she won't take bottle. Will the quality of my milk be diminished?

I did give Calpol for teething with DD1 from 17 weeks (ie when tooth appeared & we realised she was teething). We were cautious at first but more liberal during the really harrowing bit at around 8 months. One thing I was told by GP was to be careful because the acidy side effect of it on the stomach can make the nappy rash part worse - same goes for Bonjela apparently. I have just been out to buy 3 tubes of Bonjela as we seem to be permanently losing the one we already have!

Quick one just to reply toArti you poor poor girl. Glad your DH has stepped up. usual provisos about not being a bf counsellor etc etc but from reading Tik Tok she says that what we eat etc has little actual impact on the quantity and quality of milk (but obv makes us feel so week we don't want to feed etc - but your DD will get what she needs). The ABs may have upset her tummy somewhat - L went a bit funny in tummy when I had some for naibed but should pass. I took acidophilus from health food shop to keep gut flora in line and to lessen the likelihood of thursh developing. Hot water bottle helped me too. Hope temp goes down and the ABs start to work. I guess the old advice of keep feeding feeding applies - but Lord knows you don't feel like it when you are that ill. Can you feed lying down? Get well soon lovely. Hopefully Veggie will be along shortly she knows more than me. xxx

arti am so sorry for you. Is horrendous - I honestly thought I was going to die when I had bad mastitis - it makes you feel so dreadful. This is no consolation but the ABs are probably upsetting your DD - I know mine did with DS - he got terrible wind. Turnip is right that taking probiotics does help - and that the stuff you get from holland and barrett is better than yakult etc.

Do try phylotacca if you haven't - it really helped me. But if it doesn't help you than that's just another bit of annoying advice you can do without. Lots of paracetamol? Also worth giving different kinds of ABs a go - I can't remember now which ones worked for me, but worth trying different ones because you respond differently.

Sorry should be doing bath but just saw this and wanted to say I really feel for you and wish there was more I could do to help. Also if you have to go to hospital try not to worry - IV antibiotics do blast it really quickly. If I were you would ask to see the breast consultant as well - they'll do you a scan just to check there's not a blocked duct deep inside (on one occassion this was problem with me). V unmumsnet big hugs.

Oh Arti you poor thing. Don't worry about the quality of your milk it is as tip top as ever, it is you who will suffer not baby. However in terms of you don't worry so much about the nutrition side (though you will need some eventually) what is more important for you is fluids, try to get some water into you or better still some hydrating drinks like dioralyte, which is in a powder form from boots. The ABs may upset his tummy but it's temporary it may also make him a little grumbily but again he'll survive. I had 3 different types of ABs when I had a breast abcess with DS1 and apart from weird poos and a bit grumpy he was fine. Thank goodness for your DH hope it doesn't end up with you in hospital but as has been said the IV ABs will knock it on the head. Def see a breastfeeding counsellor at some stage as it would be good to check if the cause is something you can prevent rather than going through this again. I hope that's ok I'm really sleepy so not much good with advice at the moment.

Rosmerta calpol is fine now, but can extol the virtues of high strength chamomilla and pulsatilla it saved my ds1 who had teething from hell for about 2 years, from a lot of agony. We even had a dentist look in his mouth and when he saw how small it was said he must have had a really hard time with teething. But calpol is fine and at very worst ibuprofen but must be taken with a feed.

Trace glad you have ignored the house, me too, it will be there when you are more able to do it. Poor you on forgetting about where L was, I'm actually seriously worried about leaving ds2 somewhere because I have forgotten about him, like at a friends house or a cafe, if he asleep in carseat.

Bisou I'm so excited, and your on the top of the highlights, I really want to stay up to listen but would be physically incapable, a week ago I could of but am so tired today. Wow I am so proud to know someone who is performing at his memorial, such a legend to all Australians (and the Danish I imagine). Hope it is a wonderful day for you, it is of course sad that he has passed away but it should be more a celebration of his life I guess.

Daisy still amazed by your wombs your so cool, what a women, again as I have said before you would be revered as a goddess in some countries.

Arti, you poor thing, it must be sooooooooo painful. I have only had it once and was in agony. A GP friend told me to take a double dose of ABs to start off with to try to zap it. Your milk will be fine, although you will be wobbly if you don't eat. As others have said, the ABs might be upsetting her a little, but I can't think what you can do to alleviate this. Big love to you honey.

Have read but time and energy so limited. Good luck to Bisou for tonight, will try to tune in.

How did DH get along at the job centre Kayz? Hope something comes up soon.

Trace, I think it is probably lack of sleep affecting your memory. I worry constantly that I have forgotten to put M in the car when I am driving and I worry he is still in his wee seat on the pavement as I zoom off. I've even pulled over to check he's there as he sits behind my seat.

Ros, I've given CAlpol for post imms fever and would give it to M for teeth if required. I'm fairly cavalier with my pharmaceuticals though.

Daisy, your wombs are amazing. How wonderful to have 2 which both work. Bugger for the smear though.

No action here either - as we co sleep, it could be a bit precarious if there were! In addition, I think the adjusting hormones post birth can make you feel as sexy as a sack of coal as your body is in nurture mode. Plus (look away now if you are of a sensitive disposition) if you are BF, the hormones can mean you have a fanny as dry as a crisp packet. With DD1 I ended up on lubricant stuff which post menopausal ladies have for dry fannies. Twas AGONY without, however much I felt like it. So not attractive.It's down to oestrogen apparently.

No dissertations here, though I could probably knock something up on the contents of Hello mag 1995 to present. When I worked at a very serious law firm, a few of us subscribed and used to refer to it as "the journal" to keep our dirty habit secret. A far superior product to OK! IMO.

I am a wreck today, as M has had a bad vomity bug, with proper retching and gurgling tum, girls full of cold and I have acquired an extra baby as my friend is in labour so I have her daughter here! 4 under 4 is not to be recommended, though - jolly hard work.

LadyT, I hope you are OK an dyour legs are not giving you too much grief.

I had a text from Verso today who sounds very chipper, though DD2 is feeding loads. So is M - is there a growth spurt around now? He is nearly 4 months.

Got to go, M crying. Back later.

arti you poor thing, I have no words of advice for you just a great big hug. Get better soon my lovely!

sybil lol at your crisp packet analogy However, that probably explains a few things here I have zero sex drive!

arti - poor poor you - no experience, no advice, just sympathy

sybil - re: the crisp packet - my gp midwife told me this and that i should get some ky jelly. but in teh end, haven't been crisp packety at all, and if anyone wants a tube of unopened ky, then feel free to message me and i can send it. as you can tell, there has been action in the waiting household, although it has to be planned in advance, before supper (afterwards and we're way too tired) and on the sofa downstairs. romance is not dead. probably tmi.

thanks to all who sent kind words - really cheered me up. and had a lovely day today with a friend who has a 5 year old andhwo is pregnant iwth her 2nd - we walked by the river in teh sunshine - gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous. and madam, in untypical behaviour, slept soundly. hur-rah!

ladyt - hope you are ok - suspiciously silent...

Sybil As per usual the job centre was useless. He was in there for all of 5 minutes. He was told about the job he has already applied for, was told when he has to back and that was it.

Something very weird has happened to my MN page it's all weird the posts are down the side and this bit where I am posting my message is at the top.

Still going on from my previous post Poo poo yuk yuk to the nurse who left the speculum in that is evil.

The dry thing is weird this time I actually erm...don't feel dry...but DH has commented on the erm...lack of lubrication, as diplomatically as he could bless him. Haven't had loads of action though am starting to feel quite up for it but way too tired lately.

Poor ds2 had jabs this morning and then cranio this afternoon was not happy tonight so will give him a big cuddles day tomorrow. Ds1 on the other hand has been hilarious he went to bed tonight with what looked like all his toys in his bed. DH tried to tell him there were too
many in there with him but he would leave any out so he just left him to it. Then about 10mins later he called out saying he couldn't sleep because there was no room in his bed.

Kayz I understand how you feel about your SIL, I think one of the things that most annoys me about my SIL is she rings and often has a go at him for no reason except that she is maybe feeling a little down or something, if he has made a certain financial decision she'll say it's wrong and risky and make him feel like he is useless. It really annoys me esp as I am quite proud of his achievements and think that she should at least be supportive. Why does she shout at you DH? Also I think the buying of the bed thing is very wrong, fair enough offer to pay but a childs first big bed is something special and should be your choice not hers. Cheeky Moo. Oh and good on you for the history degree that's brilliant. I have only done one small module through the open university but found it really good excellent support and really easy to study. You will do very well.

Evening all

Well things have been a bit stormy in the JJ household,, our even very vague routine has been a bit buggered by teething and the imminent approach of 4 months when they make tlots of big developmental leaps and get stropyy as a result. She had been feeding really oddly over the weekend so took her to the bf clinic, was adviced to use th biological nurturing position (ie rest her more upright with head near boob, let her find the nip and just support under her bum) which seems to be working really well, plus when she's done she now likes to nod off on my chest which is lovely (soppy).

arti you poor thing, really hope the ABs work and you don't have to go in. Good on your DH for stepping up to look after you.

sybil thanks for the update on verso. Hope you're ok after your exhausting day and the vomiting stops soon!

amusing dissertation topics - my 3rd year one was called "Celibacy among priests in 13th century Normandy" Well it was interesting to me!

daisy - am v impressed with your two wombs! Sorry to hear dh was a bit of a crapster, hope he makes up for it soon as.

crisp packets - hmmm. Well we've tried a few timesin the JJ household without much success, first time was completely ruined by dd starting to snore halfway through (wonder where she gets that from...) and the subsequent attempts have been really quite painful, got some 'play' stuff from boots (my god have you seen the range of products now, hotifying, coldifying, tinglifying, stop-the-manifying, fruit flavoured etc it's absolutely crazy) but we've yet to get round to trying it. The sofa bed in the spare room is covered in music that DH has been meaning to sort out for over a month, I keep telling him we won't even be trying until he gets that cleared up as it's too distracting with dd in the cot right next to the bed. Is there something sinister to the fact he still hasn't got round to it...?!

Right - dh off at choir, dd asleep, time to settle down on the sofa with my latest trashy novel from the library and a nice glass of tonic. We're off booze for Lent (have managed pretty well, good old Laetare Sunday ) and I miss a nice glass of wine with dinner, but not as much as I expected.