Fab Feb 2009: attack of the zombie mums

[dinkystinky]

So here we all are, complete with babies and gro-bags under our eyes

ahh...its fixed!

SMS Just wanted to say that we were told Luc had 'colic' after 2 weeks of him being born. After using Infacol and Colief (for lactose intolerance) we looked up 'colic' in Wikipedia. I'd recommend it! The term 'colic' means nothing at all so it's best to work out what may be causing the symptoms - am sorry, don't know what they are for you.

I was worried about lactose intolerance in him as I am, but the Colief drops are a nightmare to use - if BF and seemed to make no difference.

Investigate what 'colic' means and try to work out what may be causing it as there is no real ocndition called 'colic'.

This is a bit muddled, sorry...trying to feed Luc and wind him before heading out for the day.

Hugs to all, maybe catch ya later.

Morning....

SMS - My DD screeches too......attention seeking and I try to ignore....easier said than done sometimes . Hope you had a better night last night.

We're off for our 6 week check today (at 7.5 weeks!) and I will speak to them about DSs possible reflux. (only 4 outfits since last night!). Its going really well with him in his own room....He chatters away to himself and groans and grunts, and I get to go back to my own room and go to sleep

DD at nursery today.....lovely. I'll be able to get housework done, have a sleep and most importantly no cBeebies

Morning everyone... I really feel like screaming......

Congrats GYO do you have a name yet?? Lavender oil in the bath is good for stitches.. Lovely story cant wait for the pics...

I need to moan.... I am so stressed at the moment. Owen is so happy when he is not being sick but for the last 3 days he has cried constantly. I stayed at my mums Monday night as the car broke down and he cried constantly..... The thing is the gavisgon seems to make him worse. I have to give it to him after feed mixed with water. I have tried bottle and he will not take it. I tried spooning it in and he gags on it and is sick... He hasnt been sick today and I just gave him the gavisgon and he gaged 3 times then brought up the whole feed..... The only othe thing I can do is mix it with milk but I am not very good at expressing so that will mean giving up bf!!!! But no one can tell me for sure that this is reflux and that the gavisgon will actually help so I could be giving up for nothing..... i am so upset I want to do whats best but I dont know what that is!!!

I know I'll be back on tomorrow wailing that he was awake every 45 mins but Baby T slept from 8.30-2.00 then 2.15-4.00(bf lying down) then 4.15-6.00 (as before. I've had 7.5 hours sleep! I have now totally jinxed myself but never mind! Glad I haven't got a noisy sleeper here as there's no way I could be doing with getting out of bed to feed him.

[fumes] had a big long post all typed out and MN went down and i lost it

i don't know why i bother i really don't! that's the third day in a row now.

lardy, if the gaviscon is making him throw up i'd definitely stop using it and go back to the docs if necessary (although if he hadn't thrown up today until you gave the gaviscon maybe he's getting better by himself?). keep bf-ing for the time being, it would break your heart if you gave it up and found out later you didn't have to.

had a weird night last night, aaron went 10-4 again but woke at 4am snuffling, choking and screaming and couldn't settle. normally i never turn on lights or leave the bedroom as i figure if i keep things uber boring at night when they wake they don't see the point in doing so and sleep better but dp had his final exam today so i didn't think it was fair to keep aaron in the room screaming so went downstairs with him in the freezing cold and curled up on the couch, he dozed off eventually and so did i was bright when i woke up and i had barely gotton upstairs when dd fell out of bed and gave herself a blood nose and woke ds1. we presumed that was us up for the day but surpirisingly they went back down and slept through dp getting up. in fact the 2 boys were still asleep at 9 when dd should have been at playschool [naughty mommy]

they're driving me insane now though, have tonnes of things to do and can't seem to motivate myself.

Right, now it's fixed I'd better catch up whilst everyone's happy

Beantin Don't feel guilty about making dh do the odd night time feed, yes he has to get up and go to work, but I'll bet your job atm is alot harder. He can also walk away from work at the end of the day and forget about it for a few hours, you are a mum 24 hours a day, and it never stops.
You aren't doing anything wrong at all. I was very strict with ds1's routines, you've just got to stick with it, it is a learning process for them, he needs time to recognise the sleep triggers. This is what I do, if it helps.... 6:30 take Luke into bedroom, wash him, dress him whist singing Edelwiess , feed him, wind him, hug for a few minutes. Lay him down, then I read him a story, the same story every night, then sit with my hand on his chest until he's asleep which is normally about 15 mins. I think now, Luke recognises the tone of the song and story and sees it as a trigger. It will all fall into place soon.
calico at hv's. Poor Lilian, hope it goes well on friday.
reflux is the worst, hope you're all coping well with it. I found first few months of it horrible, it takes a while to get used to seeing your baby that sick all the time.
dinky I've just read your TMI post. I'm trying to eat lunch. Thanks . Fibresure's good, 1 sachet in your morning tea and it should help soften everything. Same prob here. I use lots of vasaline

FFS now I click to go to next page and my whole fucking lay out has changed. Wtf is going on???

Beantin The gp gave me some informtion sheets on colic. There was a paragraph that spoke about it being caused or aggrivated by cow's milk. I have spoken to hv and pharmasist(sp? I know that's wrong) and am going to ask gp for a prescriptin for a hypoallergenic formula to put him on until he hits the 14w mark where they tend to grow oout of it.
Ladies, why have I never swaddles before? Did it this morning as really needed to put Luke down, and he stopped crying instantly, this will be so handy because like ds1, he cries all day, pretty much non-stop if he's awake, mostly being held doesn't settle him either, but so far so good on the swaddling. Anyone do it at night? Should I wrap him in sheet and cover him with blanket? Or just wrap him in blanket?

Off to see if I can change my settings back now. Bloody MN.....

No, went back t normal after I hit the post button. Weird.

Well I have got it down him and he has kept a feed down but I have totally gone against what it said on the packet. I expressed an oz of milk and mixed it into that, I left him to get really hungry then gave him the bottle (which he took) as soon as he finished the oz I put him on boob......

On the packet it says:

breast fed: add to 15ml of cooled boiled water and give after each feed.

bottle fed: mix with not less than 125ml of milk....

Do you think this is ok??? I am using a lot less milk than it says and giving it before feed!!!

sounds ok lardy, gaviscon is notoriously tricky with bf-ing and i've heard of all sorts of methods for getting it down them.

some people use a syringe and poke the syringe into the babies mouth while they're feeding at the boob and gradually drip it in.

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Lardy - perhaps you could check on the Breast/bottle board?

SMS - thanks; will try the Fibresure. Hope I didnt put you off your lunch too much. Re the screeching - its a toddler phase (DS1 had a week or so of screeching at around 20 months) as they try out loud and quiet noises; I found responding in a quiet voice saying "gosh that's loud, can you do quiet now"? worked quite well. Either that or ignoring as LMN does.

THOM - Danny went 8 till 2 last night, then 2.15 to 4.30 then 5.10 till 8ish. Must have been something in the air Would have been great if hadnt heard DS1 moaning at 5 - decided to leave him till 6 as thought he was having a dream and moaning (and he went quiet again) but when I went in found he'd been terribly sick in his bed which made me feel like the world's worst mum .... so the dinky household of lurgies continues as DS1 now definitely has the D&V bug. DS1 is being very sweet despite his lurgy. Have now been chundered on twice by DS1, once by DS2 (at the GP's at his 6 week check - thank god I just live round the corner from there so wasnt too far to go home to change) and dealt with pooey nappies from both of them (toilet training for DS1 has now definitely hit the buffers)... I swear our household never used to be quite so sickly...

PS at 6 weeks, Danny is now 5.4 kilos and 60cms. He's definitely inherited DH's tall genes and not my shortarse ones...

SMS - with swaddling, it depends on (i) what your little one is wearing underneath and (ii) how hot/cold it is. Typically during the day when Danny is wearing a vest and babygrow I just swaddle him in sheet - at night (when it can get rather nippy in our room) I just put him in a babygrow, swaddle in sheet and put blanket over the lower half only of his body.

Thanks dinky. At the moment he is wearing vest and babygrow and is wrapped in a blanet because I don't have any small flat sheets, he seems fine but I will buy some small sheets tomorrow. He has now been asleep all day, will have to try to keep him awake this afternoon or we won't ever break the pattern of sleep all day, awake all night.

SMS-I swaddle Poppy all the time, she really likes it, from day 1. At night I swaddle in a cellular blanket & put another just laid on top & tucked in at the sides of the basket. She gets all fretful if her arms come out!

In the day time, I have her in vest, babygrow & if sat in her chair & I want her to sleep I just swaddle in a fleecey type blanket we keep downstairs, although dont do it as tight.

SMS - you could save yoursel a few pounds and cut up an old sheet and roughly hem up the edges (what I did when DS1 outgrew swaddling blanket we had for him).

dinky you aren't suggesting I sew are you? don't be silly!
Good idea though.
KT I didn't bother trying it with this one as ds1 hated it, he'd get all panicky if you even put a blanket over his arms.
I can't believe how much Luke has slept today! I'll regret leaving him when he's awake all night, but he needs to catch up on the sleep he's lost these past few nights. I am waking him for a feed in 5 mins though

Its great, its like magic sometimes...If I know she is sleepy, I swaddle her & within about 5-10mins I can see her eyes begin to go
Although saying that, Im not sure what is up with her today, nothing seems to please.
Feeling a little bit stressed.

sms... all mine have always slept more at night if they slept loads during the day. i read in a baby sleep book once that 'sleep begets sleep' and you should just let them sleep whenever they want to and i have to say it's always worked for me.

the PHN swaddled dd once and she went nuts so i never did it much for her but i found with both boys that if they're in that grouchy arm wavy mood it works great for calming them down

SMS - Luke may be going through a growth spurt; DS1 used to sleep loads during the day when going through those (would only have 3 45 min catnaps during the day otherwise) at this age...

KT It has been fantastic today, although he made up for the lack of crying during the day once it hit 5 but nevermind, was in a much better mental state to cope with it as it hadn't been all day. Hope your lo settled down and you are nice and relaxed now.
PT There must be something in that, he went straight off, which was lovely. Fingers crossed we're not up from 2am though
dinky Maybe. I was thinking he is coming out of the growth spurt as we seem to be back to 4 hourly feeding, they are strange creatures aren't they?

I have the best news. Both my parents have said they will have one boy each overnight on saturday!!!!! I'm going to be able to sleep! Oh, and drink, drink, drink!! Woo-hoo. Dp has to work early sunday so I will be getting shit faced slightly tipsy on my own.

that's great though sms, hope you have a lovely night saturday.

dp's good streak didn't even last a week back to his usual shitty self today. stupid of me to get my hopes up he meant it this time.

PT. You ok?