Fab Feb 2009: attack of the zombie mums

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So here we all are, complete with babies and gro-bags under our eyes

Lardy - fantastic news on DS's weightgain - well done to both of you. It must be such a relief for you as know you were struggling to start off with. Sorry to hear you had to have your stitches removed though - ouch indeed!

Swampster - congrats on making it out and socialising! Have yet to actually take DS1 to any of his playgroups (Danny always decides to chunder on me/want marathon feed/do megapoo as the time approaches for playgroup time) so his nanny has been taking him - my aim for next week is to take him to at least one or two myself...

dinky - glad the ice has thawed round the dinky household - good on you for being tough with him.

LMN have ordered a few little stretchy leggings and jersey tops (and some lovely soft jersey dungaree and t-shirt things) from M&S online for a month or so when she gets to a weight where it doesn't look ridiculous- she's 6 weeks today so maybe as well when the weather gets a bit better. She's also growing out of her current babygroes. Not sure if I can justify buying pink ones when I have a tonne of blue ones which belonged to DS..... DS was born in the summer and lived in a vest for about 4 months and nothing else....

hello all, found you in the end.

Congratulations to all those babies who have gained weight.

dinky was shocked by your DH's piss poor behaviour which was clearly a mitigating factor in your foul language which is not at all like you hope he has been suitably chastised and now behaves himself and pulls his weight.

swampy, you had me laughing at the thought of school age kids in babygrows. I'm often suprised when I see babygrow type outfits in places like mothercare which are age 3 - 4 or 4 - 5 and have to wonder who would put their kids in them. Surely this is child abuse?

We've had a few bad days here. Harrison is being a little rat at the moment as is DD. I'm ashamed to admit it but she had been sleeping in our room until a few days ago. Partly because of the noisy neighbours who are now thankfully quiet and party as we wanted a quiet (lazy) life and it was easier to just let her fall asleep in our bed.
Well we put our feet down on Tuesday night and have had her in her room since then. She kept agreeing to it and the first night wasn't too bad and she was rewarded with a present but since then its been a nightmare with her screaming and keep coming in to us. We've therefore been taking it in turns sleeping on the floor in her room every couple of hours when she wakes.
Also, very sad to find our lovely dwarf bunny was dead last night. We've had him for 3 years and lost the other one we got with him a few years ago so have just had him on his own and he was sooooo lovely. He was a house bunny and was often hopping around the floor to DD's amusement. She noticed around lunchtime today and DH said he was visiting some bunny friends to play and so far she hasn't made any other comments. So sad though for her as he really was the cutest bunny in the world right, off to cook tea then bath and bed.

Blimey, not been on for a few days and now were all Post-natal Well Done Ladies

I find it hard to find the time to get on here with Poppy, she seems to be feeding all the time at the moment & taking forever to wind, so iv constantly got my hands full.
She is in the bouncey chair right now squirming away...more wind I suspect!
We started feeding every 4 hours, and the last week or so, she has just wanted more & more. Every 2.5 hours she has about 3 or 4oz. Although she was sick last night & this morning,(lots!) so i feel like im over feeding her. The MW & HV keep saying feed her when she wants it. not sure what to do for the best, I cant keep her occupied for much more than 3 hours when she is hungry. I dont know, I feel a bit rubbish at understanding what she needs

on the plus sde though - She has put on almost a 1lb since birth. She was 6lb 8oz and is now 7lb 7oz! Little Porker.

im looking forward to DP coming back tonight, im having a few hours off & heading to the gym - Cant Wait!!

Anyway, got to go and sort this little lady out before she starts to scream the place down.

Hope everyone is ok & hope you all have a lovely weekend xx

[faints at the thought of the gym]

[revives herself with a digestive biscuit]

[slips in MS' nappy muck and bangs head]

[flings ds1's foul toddler nappy in MS' direction and smirks at the resounding splat it makes]

KT, please tell me you're not actually serious? (LIE!) i walked to playschool and back last week to collect dd and spent the next 2 days feeling like my internals were falling out my fanjo and my hips and back had gone a few rounds with mike tyson! fgs, i wasn't that unfit befoe giving birth but my body feels like it's been possessed (by a paticularly lazy, fat, unfit demon)

lardy.... when they're growing quite alot they do tend to feed ravenously. aaron has had exactly the same weight gain in the last week as owen and he's also been feeding constantly during the day for most of the week. the last 2 days though he's gone back to roughly 3 hourly of his own accord. it's not that your milk isn't enough for him, he's just using it in huge quantities.... think of how much milk is needed to create a pound of baby... that's how much you've produced in the last week sorry about the stitches, sounds ouch but at least they're out now.

MOS.... so sorry about your bunny it's so difficult losing a pet, especially when you've got very little children to explain it to. hope you're night goes a bit better tonight... sounds exhausting. dare i say might be less tiring to just let her sleep with ye?.... although i am a co-sleeping hippy so biased about these things.... we're buying a bigger bed so that there's room for all of us as i feel bad when there's no space for the older 2 to wander in during the night

dp is [gasp] giving me sympathy he's made a few vague man fluish utterances about feeling like he's coming down with something himself but has been really nice and sympathetic to me for a change, he's actually on his way out now to get takeaway so i don't have to cook!

MoS - sorry to hear Harrison and DD2 are causing you and DH even more sleepness nights than usual. And so sorry to hear about your bunny

Pinktulips - glad your DP is getting you takeaway: enjoy

KT - enjoy the gym but take it easy!

PINK

As a fellow tattoed and pierced mum... I took my lip and nose rings out for my wedding and now my nose has closed up. I want to get it re-done but is it advisable while bf? Just in case... Or am I being over cautious?

What d'ya reckon?

well i had to repierce my nose while pregnant a few months ago as it closed up when i lost my nose ring and didn't have a spare in the house.

but that was a piercing that was technically there already, just closed for a week or so.

i've been holding off getting any tatts and piercings done during my mammoth stretch of continuous pregnancy and nursing (5 years next month!) on the grounds of better safe than sorry. that said i'm getting impatient now though and not sure i want to wait another 2+ years for tatts i've been dying to get for ages. i doubt even if it got infected it could harm baby, all that would happen is they'd get even more antibodies through the milk right?

i wouldn't think a nose piercing would have much chance of getting infected anyway as long as you keep it quite clean... salt water it like mad!

Evening all! Finally had a chance to get on here and say hello, though I'll never manage to catch up on all I've missed.

Have spent the day at Bockett's Farm with the two DS's today. Had a fantastic time and it was so nice to be able to actually do physical stuff wth DS1 without a huge tummy to get in the way.

DS1 has been pretty cross with us for the past few weeks (though quite sweet with Tarran). Am hoping he is slowly coming to terms with the situation though a major flash point is when I feed Tarran. DS1 is still having milk at bedtime and in the morning but I am damned if I'm demand feeding an almost 4 year old.

Think I've got thrush and am not sure if this is what is causing Tarran to scream during and after feeds or if we are looking at reflux. I do have quite a forceful letdown and have taken to feeding him lying on my back but I'm just not sure what's going on. Think I'll try & make it along to a LLL meeting. On the positive side he was last weighed at 9 days old and had gained 15oz since birth.

Going clothes shopping with MIL tomorrow. Am back in my size 8 bottoms but none of my tops fit at the moment.

How much sleep is everyone getting? I've started going to bed at 9.30 (which is rubbish as DS1 doesn't got to sleep until 8-8.30) and leaving Tarran with MIL (who staying for another week) until he wakes up again which has been between midnight and 1-ish. Then he usually wakes up at least once or twice again between then and 6-ish when DS1 starts to wake up. I am not enjoying being a mother of two in the middle of the night as much as I could!

Hello fellowed tatooed ones. I had one when DS1 was 6 weeks old and bf. Dr, HV & Tatooist all said ok and I had no probs. Having another for Sam too in a few weeks but need to start thinking about what exactly....

Actually that was a lie - HV didn't say ok, as usual she fussed indecisively and then said to check with gp

THOM not enough sleep but not too bad, going to bed around 11.30, DS is waking twice for feeds (so losing, what, an hour, hour and a half of sleep in total there), and getting up around 7.15 when DH turfs me out of bed to help get the girls ready. DS sleeping well if he's in our bed. Not so well in basket.

littlesez DS will be in mainly baby gros till at least 3 months, as he's got nothing else! I think little babies look a bit odd in proper outfits, they need to be comfy as they're asleep so much of the day. Having said that I dressed DD1 up in all sorts of uncomfortable-but-trendy outfits as it was such a novelty to have a new baby to play with, and girls clothes are so so cute!

Am very jealous of people with their parents living nearby, I'd love to see more of my mum at times like this.

HOM - on the sleep front....I go to bed at 8.30pm. Dh does a feed just before he goes to bed usually around 10/10.30pm. DD wakes up then anything from 1.45 - 2.45am so I get a stretch of 5- 6 hours from my bedtime. After the first am feed which takes approx half an hour with quick burp and back to bed, I then take a while to get off and generally might get about an hour or so til she wakes again near 5 - 5.30am - not sure why she can't stretch another 4 hours from then but I reckon it is slightly wind induced as the waking is preceded by a lot of grunting and farting. I might then doze a bit as she never seems to settle that well after this feed and anyway, by 6.30ish - it's game over as DS wakes up...

So...that's the sleep in this house. No snoozing in the day unless it's a Monday/Tuesday and it's just me and DD but even then I have a million jobs to do on those days as I don't have a toddler in tow.

I agree cocodrillo - those babies in full on cutesy outfits where they look like "mini me's" just look so uncomfortable. They also grow out of them so quickly I can't understand why you'd bother.

God I must be tired....you said that already. Right I really am off to bed now.....

Oh and by you I don't mean you....oh stop rambling and digging herb. I really am off.

Really jelous of all you getting some sleep... I am on about 3 hours a day at the moment. DS is still feeding every hour and as I am BF dp can not do any of the feeds and dont want to express yet as this was where I had problems last time...... Still give it 20 years and I will be able to get a good nights sleep..... ummmmmm

HOM - am generally going to bed around 10/10.30ish (Danny's going down anytime between 9.30 and 10.30) and then Danny wakes up twice in the night - some time between 12.30 and 1.30 and then sometime between 4.30 and 5.30 for a feed at nights (though he does cluster feed lots in the evening and every 3 hours or so during the day). DS2 is then up sometime after 6 but stays in his room until we get him up after 6.30 (that's DH's job in the mornings). I'm generally up around 7ish (or earlier if havent had a bad night with Danny) to do DS1's breakfast before his nanny comes along...

morning all, PT & dinky, thanks for kind words about bunny. I'd been hoping DD would sort of forget but our stupid houseboy has just asked really loudly where the rabbit is. I gave him a 'shut up' look but he kept asking and so I indicated to be quiet and he kept asking so I whispered that it was dead and he repeated really loudly in front of DD 'it is dead!'

PT glad I'm not alone with the co-sleeping and feel a bit better now. Its just I'd been criticised (sp?) quite a lot about it recently and nagged by a few friends to get DD into her room. Its not that there isn't enough room, we have quite a big bed here (although its an issue in our UK house!) but we just don't get much sleep all in together as DD is such a wriggler and is always kicking us.

THOM, I have the same trouble when b/f DS, DD gets jealous and tries to push him off. She was only feeding at night and maybe before her pm nap but know wants it more but I won't give in

Re sleep, we have no routine yet

off to mums and tots in a bit and am so glad that no swimming lessons today and for the next 4 weeks as the teacher is off on holiday for a few weeks then we are away. So relieved no rushing around today.

Hi all. Not been on for a while (again) but been reading everyones posts. Can't believe we have all had our babies, doesn't seem that long ago I was asking for advice on morning sickness.

I am starting to feel a bit sad that this will be my last baby (have 2 now). We have decided not to have any more after 2 bad pregnancies and 2 very bad labours, cant go through it all again. Olivia is 5 weeks now and i feel like the time is going too quick and i'm not making the most of it. Does anyone else feel like this or am I just being hormonal??

Morning all. We tried cluster feeding last night - Harry fed pretty much constantly from 6pm til 10pm, then conked out, probably with an aching jaw. Woke at 2.15am - the longest night sleep he's ever had, yay! Unfortunately, my boobs were so full by that point that when he tried to latch on, they exploded and he nearly drowned in milk. Poor mite, he just lay there and got covered. And then he fed again at 5am, 7am, 8am...and he's just woken up now...just off to get him.

He's not doing so good at sleeping in his crib at night, he only seems to get rest when he's cuddled onto me. Obviously I enjoy this too, so am not sure whether to keep pushing for him to sleep alone.

Have just dropped my mum and dad off at the coach station, they're flying home today, so am feeling weepy and lonely. DH stayed with DS while I was out and the little bugger darling stayed asleep the whole time so DH now thinks its easy taking care of him.

Apologies for lack of personal messages recently, should be a bit better now i don't have my parents here for company/distraction.

Hi Jelliebaby, don't want to scare you but I said NO MORE two kids ago! I now have 4 and that really is it.

Pempe wow, that is a lot of feeding. Harrison is the same with the cuddling. I keep getting him to sleep and then when I try to put him down, either in his crib or in my bed he wakes up straight away. He just has to be cuddled all the time. Maybe its a Harry thing?

Sorry you are feeling weepy and lonely. I've been a bit like that the last week or so as really feel I need to go and see my mum who is in hospital as I want her to see Harrison but don't think I can cope with a baby and 2.5 year old on the flight back on my own. DH is back to the UK next Sunday for 3 days and briefly thought about flying back with him but don't think I can be arsed for just a few days. Also, he'd be in business class anyway whilst I'd be in cattle.

On the brightside, did my tescos online shop yesterday with all the things for him to bring home (from past experience he has stuffed up most things) so at least I know (subject to tescos not cocking up) that I will have all my yummy creme eggs and chocolate buttons eggs. Just have to pray that he gets through customs in one piece and they don't get confiscated (and eaten by the nasty bastard customs men)

MOS glad its not just me with a cuddle monkey. And the online shopping thing is a brill idea - i think i'll do that when people come out to visit - i already feel a bit guilty when i take up their precious baggage space, let alone ask them to go shopping for me - instead, they'll just have to cope with a mass delivery of soreen malt loaf, earl grey tea and lemon grass. (its weird the stuff you cant get out here).

If i were you, i would go back with your DH when he flies next weekend - sounds like you really want to see your mum and at least you'd have an extra pair of hands for the airport one way if not return, you could come back maybe a week later?

Pempe, snap on the earl grey! Can you not buy it there? we can get some brands but not as good as the twinnings. Its funny the things we miss isn't it. This times shop consists of mainly chocolate buttons eggs (half price at tescos!) and creme eggs and then stuff like tortillas which are hard to get here and packet cheese sauce which you can sometimes get but I refuse to pay around £1.50 per pack when it is 38p in Tescos! Tampax used to be another one as it was banned here (don't ask me why) but obviously I'd not needed it for a while and think you can buy it here now.
I also did a Next clothes shop for the kids as the prices here are getting really stupid. Might have to warn him he may need a second suitcase!

I did think about flying back with DH and staying a bit longer but really don't think I could cope with DD and DS on my own coming back as a daytime flight. Its a shame as DD1 is flying out at the end of March but she is going Emirates via Dubai and DH is flying back to LHW with BMI and I don't think he'd agree to 2 x one way tickets with the different carries although I suppose I could be really nice to him

Right, off to drink my earl grey whilst DS is sleeping (finally!)