August 2008: Parenting Geniuses and World Famous Cooks

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LOL

I was looking at sheepskins last night. (much to dh annoyance) as he said I am always looking for stuff to buy.
and we have lots of blankets upstairs and 2 perfectly good enough foot muffs.

Oh well I am still going to get one, just wondered what type.
pram liner, or rug and cut holes in????

Must get sewing machine out later as I will finish this pram liner.

ok times up
Little man has finished his nap. Now firmly on the boob, making loud feeding noises.
Sorry for the dull lecture Feel free to ignore me.

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hi seb

Boy of mine is so sociable he even likes to chat online

Aaaargh! Apologies in advance for splurging self-pity all over the thread but I'm having a crap day - just back from the dietician and feeling sorry for myself.

Who here is quite far advanced with weaning? Can you give me an idea of how much your LO is eating? I thought we were doing pretty well at 27 weeks to be getting a little bit of something in at each meal, not forcing anything just getting her used to the idea of food. But no, apparently we are 'missing the window' and she should be eating three full meals a day plus snacks, each one including something from every food group.

Just feel totally overwhelmed by it, if she won't eat more than a little at the moment that's ok surely? I got the impression the dietician thought I should withhold BM to make her hungrier or something. FFS, she's going into major surgery in 3 weeks, surely BM is best for her? And I can't stand the thought of spending the next 3 weeks fighting her like we did to persuade her to take formula, when [can't type this ]

pertelote obviously i am not a dietician and not versed in the specific needs of babies with heart problems BUT that sounds like utter bollocks to me. everything i have read about weaning, whether purees or blw, says that you should take things gradually, let your baby go at their own pace, hang back if they're not keen. not to mention the fact that at 27 weeks she's only just begun, really - the first couple of months are for exploration, not shovelling down as much mass as possible.

please please don't upset yourself and please do talk to the dietician again/get a second opinion/ask WHY they are advising this.

as for 'missing the window' that really is utter bollocks. my dad didn't have solids till about 9 months because my nan was so afraid of him choking - believe me, you wouldn't know it to look at him now

most importantly of all, DO NOT THINK THE WORST. i can't imagine how hard it must be knowing your lovely girl needs surgery but she is in the best hands, she will be fine and you'll be loving on her for years to come xxx

awww pertelote so sorry.
I am no expert, but i was/am under impression that main source of food is milk, be it formula or bm til 1 year. my doctor said this to me aswell only last week.
I only started with food 2 days ago, and he has only had few bits, i am not worried at all.
more calories in milk at this early stage of weaning anyway.
only thing doctor stressed to me was iron, they need iron from 6 months and she says cant get it from bm only formula.
some babies (blw) dont even start till 8/9 months.
I was also always led to believe milk first, then solids. depending on circumstances.
you cant force them to take solids can you?
so long as your going at babies pace, surely its ok.
Did she say this because of upcoming surgery???

x post well said cyteen

but do get second opinion for your own peace of mind, especially as you need to know re her op. xxx

pertelote

Thank you both - glad it's not just me who thinks she may be talking rubbish. Obv. if Marianne's weight had plateaued or gone down at any point I would be looking to do things differently but so far she's gaining steadily. The dietician even acknowledged that but she never says 'so you must be doing something right' - just makes me list what DD ate yesterday while her eyebrows get higher and higher to express her disdain. I feel about an inch high and my voice sort of trails off, '..oh and half a centimetre of carrot, I'm sure she ate that, at least I didn't find it on the floor, and, um, um, maybe that was all...' Will have to see if I can get any other professional advice anywhere.

Pertelote Hugs for you and Marianne. I think Cyteen and No1 have said everything I would have said. I agree with them, a peer supporter at my bf group says that in the early stages of weaning, the food is all about filling up, not about nutrition. Babies still get most of their nutrition from milk at this stage (be it bm or formula). Don't doubt yourself! (and get a second opion)

Opinion even.

pertelote am completely with the girls on this one

Dylan now a rather sturdy 29 wks and today she has had NO solids, yesterday she had a few spoons of porrdge and gummed on some baguette. main source of calories are from the bfing and weaning is all about learning as far as I'm concerned

don't you dare start doubting how well you are doing - cheeky b*stards

pertelote I am shocked that the dietitian was so unsupportive of you, so unhelpful {{{HUGS}}}

She's talking nonsense - that 'window' thing and the eating from all these groups every day is old hat and discounted. She's probably just regurgitating outdated info that she was trained in but her attitude towards you is pretty disgusting. I feel very on your behalf.

Have you read the Gill Rapley book 'Baby Led Weaning'? It's fab and tells you all you need to know to counter this dietitians dodgy advice, for your own peace of mind more than anything. She says that babies CAN be trusted to eat what their bodies need although this may not conform to what adults think they need.

no1 on the iron point, I have read that bm contains a small amount of iron that's very easily digested and although formula contains much more iron, it's in a form that's not easy to digest.

right ladies, who's with me am off round to 'chat' to the dietician

fine fine, as long as its a harshly well worded letter

Dizzy Yes, more hairwashing is a good idea but don't do it when you are on edge yourself. Took 3yrs for my DD to like it (I have to sing a mermaid song while she dips herself) and DS1 still doesn't but tolerates it.

Sambo Sorry you and your DH are at loggerheads. Could you try giving Felix a 10pm bottle as a visible gesture to DH? Then at least you know he doesn't need feeding for 3hrs or so and if he does wake before then you can practise other soothing methods. Also could try a bit of gripe water before bed in case it's his digestion waking him up?

Expectant How exciting being a grown up bridesmaid! Have childish hopes that my chief bridesmaid will reciprocate when she gets married (next year maybe.)

Pertelote Kurt is still gagging on purees! But doesn't really seem extra hungry so BLW is happening completely by coincidence here. Still one 'meal' a day, only 4 bottles of formula and he weighs 20lb-ish. Trust your instincts on this, you can't forcefeed a baby. Do a little research and write to the dietician telling her how she made you feel - she clearly has no idea what she does to people and must be stopped! I would ask Marianne's consultant for a referral to a different dietician, you're in no state to be freaked out like that for nothing.

Went to the new autism-friendly cinema show today, all 5 of us - it was packed! And just truly lovely having other kids bouncing about and also seeing all these tightly-wound parents relaxing a little.