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CaptainDippy · 03/02/2009 10:30

Congratulations!! to Elkie and family!!

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Lucewheel · 06/02/2009 17:09

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StealthPolarBear · 06/02/2009 19:24

gm c is gorgeous

geordieminx · 06/02/2009 19:51

Thank you.

I feel a bit about it but I am very proud!!

StealthPolarBear · 06/02/2009 20:39

Don't be silly, you should be!

Doobydoo · 06/02/2009 21:25

GMHow cute he is!
oooggs I echo what everyone else has said.I cannot begin to imagine how hard it s for you.I really hope you get enough help.Your dh sounds very supportive.As for baby weight h.v's are obsessed with it.Luke isn't very old at all they need to give him a break!
Hope you enjoy swimming tomorrow.
SOL...Hope your mum is doing well.
Hello to all.Hope everyone ok.xx

Sexonlegs · 06/02/2009 21:36

Evening all.

Lovely to see you Luce. Ikwym re half-term. On the final week now before the break! Hope you are feeling more settled. xx

GM, lovely picture, and am v impressed that C lasted 4 hours! Lol at spitting out the smarties!

Dooby, thanks for asking about Mum. It is her birthday today She is doing well. She is on a break until Wednesday (from chemo) and then starts again next Wednesday.

Leaky, how are you and dh now?

Hope everyone else is well.

All ok here, although K continues to be challenging. I know it is just her growing up and asserting herself, but I find it such hard work!! Have been asked to attend an interview for another job which I applied for which is good news. It is so hard, as I love where I am now, and wouldn't have been looking if my hours weren't being cut Said to dh, perhaps I should keep to the reduced hours where I am, and work in Asda for extras.

liath · 06/02/2009 21:54

Eveneing!

GM, what a cute pic. The one under it is gorgeous too .

SOL - what a PITA with your work situation. Ds can throw some awesome tantrums and I just think "where did my little baby go?".

Oooggs, thank goodness for mums! Just hang in there. Do you have any tame teenagers that live locally that would give you a bit of a hand for pocket money? I've now got three of them on the go - one comes after school a couple of days a week just in time for arsenic hour 4 o clock and whisks the kids off to play in another room so that I can swig gin out of a paper bag cook their tea.

Luce, I'm chuffed my labour cake lives on - I haven't made it in ages. Dd is heavily into muffins at the moment.

Well, I am proud to announce that ds told his first tattle-tale today. It had to happen. I was in the utility room swigging gin hanging up the washing and heard the usual squawking & squabbling then ds came toddling through, looking all wobbly-lipped. "What happened, Jonny?" I asked.

He pointed to the kitchen and said "Ellie push Donny.....waah!". Bless - his first ever three word sentence too, I'm so proud .

Am off to my mum's tomorrow in a desperate search for snow. I really want to take the kids sledging and we must be about the only part of the UK not under 6 feet of the stuff.

geordieminx · 06/02/2009 22:01

Happy birthday for Sunday Liath

J is so cute - I can really imagine him saying that!

elkiedee · 07/02/2009 02:10

Waving, will read and post as soon as I can

StealthPolarBear · 07/02/2009 08:26

Anyone around? Have been vomiting since 6.30 It can't be mornig sickness starting at 8+ weeks can it? Think I hvae a bug, and DH, never one to be outdone feels a bit queasy too.
Was meant to be driving down to Northampton, obv won't now but was meant to be picking someone uip on the way and feel really bad for letting her down

Lucewheel · 07/02/2009 08:34

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Sexonlegs · 07/02/2009 08:57

Hi Elkie Lovely to see you.

Oh no SPB. Hope you feel better soon. Seems to be doing the rounds the d and v thing.

Touch wood, all ok here. K however got hold of B's gold pen and has drawn on the carpet on the stairs Never mind....

Going to a ball this evening in aid of Cancer Research. Strangely, we accepted the invite months before mum was struck down.

Hope everyone is doing ok. xx

StealthPolarBear · 07/02/2009 09:21

Well called my friend who was lovely of course and is just going to drive herself down.
DH has D, I have V
SOL, hope you enjoy your ball

Bramshott · 07/02/2009 10:37

Oh no SPB! Hope you feel better soon.

Lovely to see you Elkie. Thanks for popping by.

Oooggs - how was last night? So pleased you have your mum on hand.

Liath - you make me laugh! I am picturing you now hiding in the utility room with your gin! I went to visit a childless friend this week for a very relaxed lunch, and when I got home and my two were yelling at each other, at me, spilling juice etc, I was very tempted to bolt back there and leave them to it!

SOL - I have to say, I can't imagine you working in Asda ! It's such a pain about your hours being cut. Any chance you can see if you get offered another job and then use it as a bargaining tool along the lines of "I'd really love to stay but I need at least X hours to make it worthwhile"?

I'm in Tunbridge Wells lots next week - is that near any of you?!? Any nice shops I should be visiting? Will have free time on Wed pm for shopping I hope.

Northernlurker · 07/02/2009 10:51

hi all

Elkie - great to see you

SPB - I think it could be morning sickness actually - did you have it with T?

Oooggs - it will NEVER be this hard again. Its tough now but you will get through it - thank goodness your mum can come and do night duty.

Well we woke up this morning and our boiler won't work. Have tried reset with no joy but managed to get hold of our plumber who is coming on Monday! We have some electric heaters and the water has an immersion so could be worse I've booked to take us out to lunch tomorrow - it's too cold to stay in

StealthPolarBear · 07/02/2009 12:04

No I think it's definitely a bug, DH has it as well Still being sick, urgh. I did hvae it with T, from 5 weeks onwards I was sick almost every morning until 16 weeks. Didn't feel like this though
Hope you get your boiler sorted - what a time to be wothout heating!

leakyR · 07/02/2009 19:37

Hello

I've still got gastroenteritis. Was up all night with d and v last night and have been sick in Tesco this evening (made it to the loo).Dh only had it for 2 days, but this is 5 days for me! G mercifully has escaped.

GM - C is yummy and sounds like a natural at this modelling lark.

Oooggs - glad your mum is helping out. I hope things start to look brighter soon.

SOL - fingers crossed for your interview/job app. 2 jobs and 2 kids would be too much!

leakyR · 07/02/2009 19:38

Meant to say SPB hope you feel better quickly. It's miserable being pg and poorly!

leakyR · 07/02/2009 19:38

Meant to say SPB hope you feel better quickly. It's miserable being pg and poorly!

oooggs · 07/02/2009 19:55

Mum stayed on thursday night and I went to bed at 11pm after a feed and she gave Luke a bottle in the night and I woke at 6.45am. I felt fantastic in comparison to the day before.

Last night I was alone again but even after getting up to Jack in the night as well as Luke things weren't as hard (they weren't easy either!!) I tried a bottle in the night but the little blighter wouldn't take it as he could smell 'mummy milk' - he knows what is good for him. I can use the bottle route for dh ot mum to do the late feed when I am really struggling.

I am shattered and boobs sore but I hope we are getting there

Katy - hope you feel better soon

sol - thinking of your mum

gm - lovely pics

mj - thanks for the text x

luce - and yours as well x

liath - everyone (inc. teenagers) are giving
our house a large berth at the moment - no idea why

leaky - thats yuk - take care

Bramshott - enjoy your shopping time

NL - bugger to the boiler - especially in this weather

dooby - hows things with jobs etc?

pesha - you are a star

elkie - hope you and Conor are thriving and that Danny is loving his new brother

can't remember if I have said but 'the builder have left the building!!!' the key is returned it looks fab and just needs decorating but two double bedroom, a shower room (which has been tiled) and a hall stairs and landing it isn't going to be done overnight -stamps her impatient feet again-----

love to you all xx

elkiedee · 08/02/2009 00:05

Hi all

I'm honoured by the thread, just wish I'd had a chance to read it sooner.

Leaky/SPB, Sorry to hear you've been ill

Much sympathy to Oooggs, I really don't know how you do it with 4 and your dh on nights, I was so relieved to read about your mum's help to you.

My mum's been an absolute star the last few days too, I don't know what I would have done without her. My dad and little sister on my mum's side of the family have also been particularly wonderful, and my other sister - dad's 2nd daughter - sent a lovely pressie and messages. She's about to have a baby due - her first - around her own birthday next week! so I have to choose something I hope she'll like back.

I'd love to have more time to write up the last few days in gory detail, I have a lot to describe and rant about. I'm very anxious to get breastfeeding right this time, and I've had some challenges doing so.

The op was under general anaesthetic, I couldn't stop shaking for quite a while after the birth so couldn't ask to hold him and try and do skin to skin/bf etc and so they gave him a bottle of formula and it was more than 5 hours before I got to hold him, although that was a lovely long cuddle. However, my iron was so low I had to have a massive blood transfusion, lasting well into Wednesday. On Wednesday I had scans involving toxic dyes so couldn't attempt to feed for 14 hours afterwards - a period ending at 1 am on Wed night/Thurs am!

Message interrupted here by crying baby and crying toddler, and dp getting angry with me. More tomorrow hopefully though the problems continue.

elkiedee · 08/02/2009 06:12

Morning! Conor very hungry last night and latched on and fed lots, think that's good news under current circumstances but need fingers crossing for us. I couldn't have got through my struggles for support to breastfeed without memories of all the things I've read on our threads and on the feeding threads with good advice rather than bickering.

elkiedee · 08/02/2009 06:21

To take up where I had to run away, got to postnatal ward on Wednesday late afternoon, and spent the next 48 hours cuddling a very clingy baby who would not be put in his goldfish bowl, practising latching him on, begging for help off various midwives and occasionally other people who'd listen or assist. I was given a breastpump to help me keep up my supply (pump and dump) while I couldn't feed, and shown how to cup feed SMA - at least I got advice on avoiding bottles/teats and just ignored the ones that other staff on the ward kept bringing me .

On Friday the midwife tutor was teaching a class which included giving practical advice to newborns' parents just opposite my bed, and at one point I was earwigging on someone being given lovely pro-bf advice by a student mw on how to get it established, while the couple in the next cubicle were being advised on stuffing top ups into their wee thing by a qualified (?) member of staff.

I took up "when can I go home?" on Thursday and was told they'd work on letting us out the next day. I fully expected hours of waiting around and was rather shocked to be given my medical notes and C's red book about 1 pm on Friday, in the end I had to wait until my mum could fetch us, hospital would have let me leave sooner! It felt so different once I knew we were going though...

elkiedee · 08/02/2009 06:44

Breaking my mega posts into instalments, Friday evening was lovely. My dad was drafted in to help pick up D and introduce him to his new baby brother (they met very briefly in hospital on Tuesday) and his new bedroom (!)

D loved bedroom and brother, I already have a picture of him holding "mine baby" only I've lost all means of connecting camera to computer, and my annoying new phone which I don't like (old one refusing to respond to right hand side menu controls and had to be replaced, and they don't do the same again please model which I wanted - what they sent me is deeply inferior) is pretending not to have a memory card, so won't take pics - grrr.

D woke up for a midnight bottle of milk but then slept until 7.35 am - I was creeping in to check on him because I couldn't believe it.

However, Conor who'd hardly slept in hospital decided to catch up on his zeds when we got home and I knew he wasn't feeding enough, or as much as at hospital.

The community midwife turned up at about 1.30 yesterday afternoon, checked me and moved on to Conor. Weight loss of half a kilo/over a pound . We were sent to Paediatrics at the hospital - I asked my mum who'd come to help out and do some stuff in our house to take me - to drive and to support me at the hospital as I knew I had to be ready to ask for the help I want - establishing breastfeeding. We were referred to the place I spent 8 days in 2007 being made to feel like a totally crap new mum while D became a bottlefed baby, I wanted to howl with fear and distress just arriving in the place.

I decided on the way and discussed with my mum that what I had to ask for was how to make sure C is fed while still establishing bf, and preferably support at home and in the community not at the hospital.

Fortunately I got a doctor who really, really listened to what we had to say and what I was asking for. We would have been kept in but after our discussions she said she would have to do blood tests and depending on those look at where to go. We waited hours and hours and hours for blood test results but they finally came back ok - we would normally have been admitted, erring on side of caution, but she agreed to let us go and keep working on feeding at home - she found someone on the ward with the knowledge to help me get C latched on for a really good feed during the hours of waiting, although C was very sleepy.

I have to take him in for midday today, my mum's coming to drive/back me up again. Please cross your fingers for me.

The good news is that Conor was monstrously hungry from 9 pm onwards and fed loads over the next few hours, a good sign I think. dp's spent a lot of the night with D, I've spent a lot of time feeding and watching TV, and posting these ramblings.

If I get home today I'll try and post later, if we get kept in I'll ask dp to post and let you know, some time (likely to be after D is settled in bed).

StealthPolarBear · 08/02/2009 07:26

Leaky, so sorry you're still ill Sounds miserable

elkie, I don't know what to say! Your birth sounds as though it must have really taken it out of you and shaken you up. Sounds as though you are doing really well with the bf and are fighting to get what you want (as I know you did last time, it depends so much on the support you get and luck). I notice you said you were begging for help, and that a couple in the bed opposite were getting advice - have you had any? Is there anyone so far who has actually given you any decent advice? What's your visiting MW like?
Glad the paediatrician was supportive at least and hope today's appointment goes well. What's the thought on a 10lb newborn losing a pound? I thought they could safely lose about 10% anyway, which is right - please don't quote me on that as obviously I don't really know. What are the feeds like when he's feeding? Do you get any soreness?
Well sorry for that huge post, please update us if you can on the appointment. Also D sounds lovely talking about "mine baby" - sounds like they're going to get on so well!

oooggs, glad you got some sleep last night and the house is finally finished. Can you convince them all to nap at the same time today while you do the same?