July 2008 - Food Glorious Food - babies who lunch

[Isaidno]

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hi all busy day here, went to Ikea for more boxes for the DDs rooms, met someone there I hadn't seen oh in about 3 1/2 years, last time I saw her she had a newborn DD who is now almost 4 and I was pregnant with DD2, turns out she had a DS the same day I had B he looked really big compared to B though, I must get her weighed as I reckon she is hiding a lot of weight as she looks really dainty but is long and quite solid.

Rumpel - good to hear from you thanks for you concern, means a lot. GP has given me 10mg citalopram, he was a bit giving me them so went for the lowest dose because I'm still BFing, told him pregnant women take it. We shall see if it has any effect, it's not going to make me sleep any better or stop the DDs playing up though. You sound like you have had a really rough time of it recently what with all your bugs, poor you, so glad you are meeting other Mums and having a night out. I'm supposed to be going to a MN lunch meet up on Saturday but almost everyone has pulled out

Mummywannabee - sounds like you had a rough night, hope tonight is better for you

Isaidno - my DP tried the Closer sling once nad said it freaked him out ours is cream, I haven't used it in ages, you still using yours?

SK- Wow! What a coincidence!
We went out for dinner last nightand bumped into someone who DH used to work with and we havent seen for over a year. She didnt know about Abigail and was all over her like a rash!

Another coincidence- A lady that ive become friends with at Baby club lives the next road along from our new house, Hardly a five minute walk! She has a 4mth old DS and we have already planned some coffee mornings once ive moved in

Mummywannabe- No teeth here either. Fingers crossed for a better night.

Tried to go swimming with Abigail but the pool was closed because someone had poo'd in it! Nice! May attempt it on my own with her tomorrow.
Did some painting again with Abiagil today, She loved it and was laughing her head off!

Shes really changed the past few days and is now sooo wriggly! Shes straight on her front and pulling herself around the room. Amazing as last week she hated being on her front! Discovered the DVD player earlier so now the fun begins!
We were amazed earlier during bath time. She reached up and forward and grabbed the side of the bath and pulled herself up to standing.- SO easily as if shes been doing it for months! She looked so proud of herself holding onto the side of the bath! .

pigley that daughter of yours always amazes me at what she does next.....its as if she sees somethings and must think ok thats what i need to do .............here goes and does it,shes wonderfull...

had a usual horrible night with samuel he wakes almost every hour until about 3am no idea why just for a cuddle drop of milk just something
had to get up early as i just cant sleep in my bed my pillows are soooo uncomfy it kills my spine and right up to my neck and shoulders has anyone got any suggestions on the nest either mattress/pillows theyve tried and worked to alleviate pain.

my dh is up too hes nervous its his big test today he says hes not but hes pouring over his worksheets as i type
ive said to him honey just do your best and thats gonna be enough.

im due a period soon sorry if TMI and ive got pregnancy symptoms sore boobs sickness,
lower backache,scares me tbh but weve not taken a chance always well nearly always use somethings or he gets of early ....

morning all

hi kensgirl, belated congrats on Sophies arrival!

Mama2leah I think quite a few people on mumsnet tandem feed, ie feeding either two at the same (or feeding whilst pregnant I guess.) I do remember thinking I was pregnant when ds1 was about 3 months old, was at the baby show in birmingham and they had midwives there to ask advice of. She said that it was all fine, two at a time was hard work but absolutely possible. Congratulations too

pigley, well done abigail on getting moving! We've got the commando crawling going on here too, and Louis is deperate to stand but can't quite manage to pull himself up on sofa, it's still too tall for him!

Good luck mr disneystar for your driving test.

Hello Rumpel, nice to have you back.

Am recovering here, as dh, I and a couple we're really good friends with went out on Saturday night, went to see The Killers in Cardiff (Brandon Flowers- teeny tiny little pot of lurve god) and we had a very drunken very funny night and stay over in nice hotel, such a great time. Band were amazing, think dh had a near religeous experience he loves them lots. Really great to spend time with just dh and "reconnect" (sorry if that sounds a bit wanky). Remembered we were a couple as well as parents, and he felt like my best friend again which if I'm honest has been missing since I got pregnant. So had v little sleep (lots of reconnecting going on ), knackered yesterday and 9pm bed for me!

Louis has amazed us by sleeping through (ish) for two nights. The first was when he was at my mums on saturday, must admit to calling him a few names under my breath when she told me that he'd gone from 8.30pm-4am! He's NEVER done that for us. So last night we replicated what had happened at hers and he went to bed at 7pm without milk (he refused the bottle at mums and from dh last night), he woke at 8.30 had a formula feed, woke at 10:30 for another feed from me, then this morning he woke at 5! Not sure I like the bed without milk thing but if it works at the mo, I'm going along with it.

Right, off to get boys dressed as we're going to walk into town in a minute and get some black sugar paper to make ds1 a pirate hat. Got "365 things to make and do" from Usborne books last week, it's fab got so many lovely crafty ideas in it, so ds gets to pick which one he fancies trying and today it's hats! Have a nice day all xx

Morning all.

Very down today. Ds horrible night again, still not feeding in the day, just screams at me if i try. Feel like i have done something wrong, he won't sleep, won't eat or feed, and doesn't move around much at all. To be honest have moments when i think i have made a huge mistake and then when i feel like that i feel guilty and cry. Just don't know what to try next. If i put my professional nursery nurse head on i would say to a parent its just a stage, keep offering food and bottles at usual times and the little bugger darling will give in when hungry enough. Not that easy when its your own though is it.

Sorry for moaning post but had to get it off my chest somewhere, have a old friend coming to see me today and didn't wanna spill all this out to her.

mummywannabe when you say he wont eat or feed do you mean at all ? as its a bit of a concern really if thats the case.
not to worry you but i had a son who did this and the health prefessionals said its ok no baby ever starved themselves yet
so not true charlie refused all feeds refused all food he nearly died he went so down in his weight depsite me at the gp,s everyday,
in the end they rushed him in he went into a coma,he was 16mths old and weighed 9Lb
sorry but it kind of scares me when you say hes not eating, im a terrible worrier

maybe you should write down what hes having exactly.and drinks.

in the end charlie had a soft cleft palate not visible to the eye only seen under a GA
and it hurt him so bad to eat or drink he just gave up.
i was frantic in the end with charlie i went to the hospital every day to get him weighed so they would take me serious,and daily when they saw with there own eyes they knew we had a problem.
hes 8 now and weighs just under 2 stone,he hates eating to this day and was tube fed for 3 years ish.

sorry for the long post but ive been reading what youve been saying for a while and you say hes not eating or drinking much and remember no food no energy he wont want to move much.
are you BLW or puree?

ok going to say something now and sorry if you guys think im outa line
i do not think at 7 or 8 mths babies go through a stage of refusing ALL foods and drinks.
i think the hv and a diary list is needed.if something is up or something hes not happy about and he cant say get it checked.

Disney - has odd bits and pieces but nothing much, my post sounded more dramatic than i intended, just really stressed about it. Have a nagging doubt there is something wrong, but not sure if i'm paranoid, he fed very well when he was younger but we have these periods where he refuses everything. Seeing health visitor tommorow so will ask her and see if he has lost much weight. He is ever so strong willed and i wonder if this is the problem.

He has always been a noisy feeder and seems to gag alot, i wondered if his throat is ok as he has noisy breathing too, although doctor says no reason for this.

Thanks for your post, i'm sorry if i brought back memories of difficult times.

Also forgot to say he feeds better to almost well if i'm out so can't see that there is something wrong.

Oh i don't know! Think a chat with the HV is in order. Maybe i'm just so stressed its rubbing off on him.

agree that a diary is a good idea, also note down where he was fed, by whom, how you felt. It is poss he is picking up on your stress.

mummywannabe - if you have a nagging doubt, then maybe try again through the usual channels. mums know best, really. hope its just a phase. elodie took a really long time to get going with the feeding and still has to do it on her terms - no rushing, slowly approach with spoon etc etc. but any nagging doubt is reasonable doubt. good luck.

red - totally get you on the reconnecting thing - i haven't been out with just dh, who is my best mate, for ages and ages. although i love the family side of things, i miss the me and him socialising.
must get babysitter sorted when i am back from the uk.

talking of which, as i am travelling on my own wiht elodie, decided not to take my pliko pramette. my parents want to buy a sturdy but reasonably priced pushchair. any recommendations?

Hi girls.

I have some news - hubby has possibly been offered a job in Glasgow. it's still very hush hush at present, so I think I can tell you if you promise not to tell anyone who knows us!! I feel very torn. on one hand it sounds great, haven't heard anything bad about living up there, the countryside will certainly suit hubby, mountain biking, climbing etc, and the job sounds good to him. And it will be a new adventure for all of us.

BUT, my life is here. my friends are all here, I love my job, the girls are happy at school and have good friends here. I guess hubby has less ties here, as he's at work all day and not involved in village and school life. but I am, and I don't want to move. And my parents are in Essex, which is along way from scotland.

So I want us to consider it, for him mainly, but I don't want to go, but I don't want to be selfish and 'hold hubby back' in his job and career progression, just cos I'm not brave enough to uproot.

Any thoughts??!! thanks, Cass.

i wanted to ask u guys, how many breastfeeding do u tink leah should be having durin the day? im a little confused..she cn go 8 hours i tink without one, but im not sure..how i shud spread them out...?

M2L - Bethany's day is like this 6-7am BF, breakfast, 10.30-11am BF, lunch, 2.30pm BF, dinner, 7.30-8pm BF, then as many BFs in the night as she wants.

Cass - oh what to do, I am a bit biased coming as I live near Glasgow but it is a good place to live and you still get more house for your money than down south IYSWIM but relocating is a big thing, something only you and DH can decide.

Will catch up with you all a bit later, had a terrible night last night, B was up 9pm, 12am, 2.30am (she was burning up and stayed up for an hour) so to 3.30am and 6am, I am shatteres but my poor baby has a temp and a constant runny nose, she also has a stinky nappy off to sort that out then feed her x

Mummywannabe as someone who was a paediatric nurse I would say trust your instincts if you have a feeling something could be wrong then go with that and go see a friendly GP about it. Any good one will take you seriously.

hi guys well my hubby had his test and has disapeared im like a cat on a hot tin roof here waiting to find out.
had his test over 2 hours ago and not a word since........

Disney - any news from DH?

Thanks for all the suggestions, going to keep a diary. He fed well today after a horrible start . Will see how his weight is tomorrow and have a chat with HV. Actually in process of changing G.P for various reasons so will have a chat with the new one.

well he came and he had failed he was upset with tears in his eyes didnt want to face me

told him twas ok he did his best and we booked straight back in for re test

the boys hugged him and said daddy you tried and you can try again so we think you did well.he was a bit emotional after that and took sam upstairs for a cuddle.

i think its cos of the cost and its going to another £250 to do it again, hes such a softie ,he said sorry honey you cant get that new sofa now,
im like who cares your trying to secure our future bit more important dont you think?

that's a shame, disney but next time, he'll nail it.
he sounds like a really sweet man.

Hi all

Good to read everyone's news! I wasn't going to post but thought I ought to say hello....!

Mummywannabe, hope the eating issues are resolved soon!

Cass - big decisions! I'm a wuss, the thought of uprooting scares me - but, on the other hand, the thought of having a whole new opportunity is very appealing at the same time. Different with school age children I should imagine.

SK, really hope you're feeling better and the ADs are working.

Feeling a bit low at the moment - we are still only just surviving, being hit by one bug after another- at the moment it's sore throats / colds but I keep getting incredibly intense 'griping' abdominal pains, bit like when you get bad d+v, but none of that. Starting to get a bit worried.

Fibromyalgia is bad too so lots of pain - it's because I've had another run of broken nights, makes it flare up again sraight away. So I feel like a really crap mummy - my girls are so good and it feels like they get such a rough deal!

Am just hoping the warmer. lighter weather starts to have an effect soon. I feel so low - but then, I am motivated to do things, I want to do stuff with the girls, have plans every week for activities we can do, meals I want to cook etc - just so often find I am in so much pain and/or exhausted none of it happens. So frustrating.

Dh is manic at work too, staying up all night, stressed etc etc. His parents however, are taking us to Menorca in June!! Hurrah! - to a lovely child-friendly little fishing village, gorgeous villa, beautiful beach....

Sorry for huuuge long post and rant about self! Love to all.

m2l, louis doesn't have much milk in the day either. Most days he goes from 8am-7pm without milk in between. But then has a feed at about 10:30 and another sometime during the night. I was worried too but all the advice I've had has been that as long as your baby is doing lots of wees and poos and is putting on weight, then everything is fine. I just wish Louis would have more milk in the day so that he could drop a night feed! Selfish I know.

Have just caught up with all your news following a week of broken internet connection. Sounds like a lot of people are going through hard times at the moment

Getting ready for Bryony's christening on Sunday, we have 35 adults and 20+ children coming, I'm feeling a bit worried as I'm doing the catering!

I have finally decided that I am fed up of getting up in the night to feed B, so I stopped 5 nights ago and she has gradually been getting better at settling without a feed. Last night she went to bed at 7, woke around 1, I went in briefly and she went back to sleep around 15 mins later (just grizzled on and off during that time), then woke at 6.15. So I am hopeful that tonight could be the night that she sleeps through

Milk feeds during the day have been better since I dropped the night feed too, I think she realises now that she had better take it when it's available!

evening all. - hehe that sounds like an old policeman!

Mummywannabe- Sorry to hear about Max not feeding well. We occasionally have times when Abigail seems to go off her milk and will stop at 3ozs each time. She seems fine and eventually she just resorts back to drinking better after a few days. No real reason why.. guessing it could be her teeth playing up or maybe shes just not that hungry- shes never been a great drinker. When I questioned this with my HV she said not to worry as long as she was still putting on weight. How long has he been like this?
I agree with the others about keeping a diary and I hope you HV can give you some more advice.

Tjuice.. not had much experience with pushchairs but the Quinny looks quite good as it folds down small. Guessing that would be good if your flying alot. Have you looked at the reviews on here?

Cass- Oh tough decision! Id prob have a chat with DH about it and express your concerns. Maybe make a pro's and cons list. It will highlight your concerns and make DH aware of what a big chznge this would be for you and the girls.

M2L - Abigail feeds every 4 hours now.

Disney- Shame that your DH failed but like you say- Next time! Your boys sounds really sweet

PurpleJenny- Hope your feel better soon

Ponto- Sounds like you are doing ok on the nights. Hope you get your full night soon. I know thats is far far away in our house. A full nights sleep is a distant memory!

Well I resigned from my job today Im now a full time mummy! We had always had that intention when DC arrived but it was quite satisfying none the less

Took Abigail swimming today for the first time on my own. Took abit more thinking about that usual but we did it and she loved it There were a few other mummies and babies there and the mums all had dry perfect hair and faces and theres me dripping wet with Abigail in hysterics as shes splashing me in the face! monkey!

i,ve been up over an hour aaaaargh

same as well samuel only has 3 oz at lunchtime and then 1 night feed ive been toying with the idea of dropping the night one im sure its a habit and surely to goodness he should be sleeping all night by now
im serious all my others have gone throught the night no feeds sinse 4 mths am i being too soft letting him feed in the night?

my gd jess goes from 6pm to 6am shes 12 weeks old.
but her mom does not feed her inbetween these hours shes a strict parent im sorry i just cant do that.

pjr sorry your in so much pain right now i was diagnosed with FBM same as you for years until it got so bad they gave me a mri and told me it was MS, stupid doctor i had then. do you take anything for the pain, in the US they have a drug for it but will not prescribe it here cos of cost.i used to get mine there.
sorry cant remember who else posted now but hope you are well
WB ponto good to see you