November 2008 - Cooing babies, tired ladies

[LackaDAISYcal]

now I'm off to catch up.

pink - THANK YOU for being so nice. I'm already getting paranoid and nervous about MAYBE meeting new , are you guys new, people.

We have a Fiat Doblo not exactly a status symbol vehicle, but it fits us all in, plus camping gear and is very cheap to run!

I am v.nervous, too.

bloody hell, bumble has thrown up four times in a row. He isn't normally a terribly sicky baby. He's also had four poos in the last two days, most unlike him and the last one was very green. I hope he hasn't got a bug

don't be nervous, it'll be fab!!

why is it seen as ok for us ladies to be ill, exhausted, depressed, oppressed and basically be walking into walls and have no care for ourselves when we are the workers/carers for the most important thing ever, our children, and all the rest we are supposed to or do. But not for our DH "because they work"?! Where has that mindset come from in us ladies and our DH? Feel like booking myself intp a travel inn so i can just sleep.
ME,ME,ME.

The assumption that SAHM's don't work is a crap one indeed vbab. thankfully my DH is pretty good about sharing the sleep deprived nights as he appreciates that it's just as difficult to deal with children on no sleep as it is to do a job of work.

Maybe you should get DH to do a nightshift over the weekend and then bugger off out for the day the day after and let him see how it is?

although ime, when you do that with them, they only deal with the kids and don't do the housework/cooking/shopping etc that is normally left till the woman is home again.

Bumble has been up since 5.30 this morning . Having a lazy day thankfully as we are waiting in for a courier, so I might get a nap later.

Morning.
We had inconsolable crying, high pitched, screaming, that goes 'right through you', from 10pm-midnight.
WHY ????
WHY ????
WHY ????
I just don't get it.
Why last night, when we had had a brak from this for a couple of nights.

Off on school run. Will see you later.

Vbab, let me give you courage, and encourage you to go to meet up.
I was VERY VERy nervous pre Dozy meet up at Bluewater, but it was the best thing. Think how nice it will be to laugh and laugh face to face with daisy, Rutho, Ceebee and the others.
( thinking of driving up myself)
GO GIRL. Have courage. GO GO GO GIRL

Morning all

Vbab I think it is easy to find the Trafford Centre if you come over the M62 although Daisy would be able to give you more precise directions. Plus, don't worry about DS and the buggy issue - there will be plenty of us to looka fter A whilst you run after DS or we can run after DS for you I am really nervous aswell - tis only natural! Besides, you have already met Rutho so that is one person you know - one more than me

Daisy how is Bumble this morning? Do you think he has a tummy bug?

Had to 'back to bed' again with DS1 at 4am this morning - but he only lasted 20 minutes this time (and for abot 10 of that, you could see his heart wasn't in it but he didn't want to concede...I am winning I think he may have got the message!

Sam, on the other hand, slept like a dream- we fed him at 9pm last night and he didn't wake until 6am for a feed! He is definitely doing 9-hour stretches consistently now so his wake-up time for a night feed depends on when we last fed him at night.

Right, need to go and have a shower as Sam has his jabs this morning - I hope he isn't grumpy tomorrow! Also, can give him his first taste of the 'pink medicine' as DS1 calls it

Morning Ladies, Just timed my getting up and ready routine and looks like I will be up at 6 tommorow or I will never make it
I'm really looking forward to meeting you all. We will be the group of ladies who are sat together blushing and not speaking no?? It will be lovely we are all in the same boat.
Definately up for the shopping, I'm out Friday and Saturday night so might treat myself - I seem to have developed an obsession for shoes that I can't walk in
Jay has his injections this morning too - third time lucky hopefully, he is well now so it should be OK.
I'm feeling a bit better today although not sure if it is the drugs or it really is getting better
Obs I know you are right about trapped wind being painful I had it after DS1 and it was awful.
I think this is more muscular though.I am however going for some peppermint tea today Just in case anything is worth a try.
Did have to laugh at Doctor when he asked after me just saying it might be period related did I have blood in my urine - Erm yes of course I do are you not listening?

I'm a burns night baby too, born on my due date!
Pinky hope you are feeling better today.

Hi everyone else

THANKS LADIES for all your kind words and encouragement about meeting up. You are all such amazing ladies.
lacks - The situation about SAHM and DH is exactly like it is here. DH will look after kids but nothing else gets done or the house is more a mess when I get up from lie in. DH and me both have a lie in at weekends and DH also has a night feed DAY. But I have SIX but he does work . Funny thing is though if I was back at work now wonder if the "night shift" would be shared? Because when I went back to work when DS was 9 months I still did everything housey and financial which as you know is a job on top of your day job with kids to look after. But DH has told me to get to bed early tonight and he will also do the night feed/early morn because I had terrible night with A and am walking into walls. A was screaming alot last night between trying to sleep 6-8pm so NO bedtime routine. I think wind ? But she did have feed at 10pmish but then 12 then again 4.30am then up after 8. I know compared to some of you ladies this is good but to someone like me who is used 10.30 (next to no feed) then 1 feed between 2 & 4am then up 6/7am it is a great shock and has knocked me for six.
Who was it that said if do/dont the 10.30pm feed baby will naturally wake 2am then ok until 6/7am. NOT my A ... we have tried a few times and keep trying just not to do 10.30pm because she might only have 1oz/30ml after trying for ages. But it really stuffs her/our night up. SO dont know what to do for the best.
MEET UP - Will see if I'm still walking into walls tomorrow AM and what weather is like as I will be coming over the woodhead.

Hello all

Hope Bumble doesn't have a bug, Daisy.

Glad you are in less pain, LB.

DH quite handy around the house these days, it is going to be very hard when he has his op next month- he will be pretty imobile.

Still getting hot sweats and nausea, but not as bad. I desperately want to get my hair cut today and be better for tomorrow.

I am worying now about the soft play thing. When you go in you have to leave your pram in these lock-up booth thingies and then go through to the soft play bit. Will they be ok about us all going in with just 3 toddlers and is that a big inconvenience fo everyone? Or am I worrying over nothing??

bumble has had a good feed (two boob, not like him) and only a little came back up, so fingers crossed it's something and nothing.

Hope you are OK for tomorrow pinky and LB, and vbab; would be a shame to miss it. Pinky, we can see whet they think about all these buggies turning up, and take a view on it tomorrow, but tbh I shouldn't think it'd be a problem.

Anyone want to buy a cheap double buggy? I have not one, but two Graco Duosports to sell. The silly beggars sent me two and I've had an email from M&B saying I they don't want them back!!!

oh I'm not going to miss out on tomorrow, no matter what!

lol at daisy's pram shop! What do they go for on ebay- would it be worth seeling them on there?

We'll get them listed onver the weekend pinky. I have DD's old pram to sell as well, which was only used for a few months and I never used the seat bit of it, just the carrycot. I'm a pram "hun"...who would've thunk it

morning everyone,
hope bumble is ok daisy and he doesnt have a bug.
hope your on the mend buzz
sorry for your bad night vbab
last night was the 1st night i didnt wake up E for the "dreamfeed" he went to bed at 8, woke at 1 for a feed then sleeping again by 2, another feed at 6.30 then we both slept until 9am!
i hope this wasnt just a one off!!!

i have been reading all your anxious thoughts about your meet up tmw (pink,vbab), i am normally a pretty confident person who is happy to speak my mind and dont suffer fools gladly but since becoming a mum i am a lot more panicky and worry what people will think???
i went to a mother and baby group on monday and got in a right panic about it, it was fine in the end and glad i went but just taking bad to this "new" side of me.

hi to everyone else, looks like my little bundle is waking from his nap
x

oh and meant to say daisy for you burns night, sainsburys have very nice haggis truffles

bookmarking.

tomorrow sounds fab.

if NAK is nursing at keyboard, is cuddling at keyboard CAK? maybe not. that's what i'm doing and it's lovely.

lol at your DH hana. My DH has taken two babies to get used to dealing with cloth nappies. If he ever changed DD he would put on a disposable one rather than cloth, his excuse being his hands were too big to stuff my pocket nappies .
I also think men have a habit of doing things they don't like doing badly, in the hope that it means you won't ask again

bumble having a clingy day; I've only just managed to get him off to sleep and in his chair from 9 oclock this morning when we got back from school.

DD is asleep as well so I'm off to put some laundry away after an illicit bar of chocolate

Chocolate, I think becoming a mum definately changes you and dents your confidence a bit, as you are suddenly trying to adapt, quickly, to your new role in life and always wondering if you are doing it "right". I was really outgoing before having children and am a very different person now. It gets easier with subsequent children though

yo yo!
have been catching up in bits over the last coupla days as have had quite a time with W.
Had boob probs - mastitis and milk blister but dealing with it - don't have a choice as it would appear that Will is allergic to formula - boob probs messing with my head though - I think the worse thing is the thought of not being able to feed baby. W picking up on my and crying during feed and not settling too well at night. Have been feeling like crap mum - my smiley boy is no longer smiley. Last night was good though after massivwe screaming session (jabs earlier?) he went into deep sleep so popped him straight to bed, woke at 9pm so we fed and then bathed him (he loves baths) fed and bed by 11pm then woke at 5am and slept til 8am.

was reading furry and daisys opinions on routine with interest yesterday as am in 2 minds - tempted to try 'dreamfeed' again as he slept so well from 11pm.dunno what's best. if i try routine when should i aim to have him in bed? gah - but when i tried waking him for feed before he wasn't really up for it - ver sleepy.

Daisy Hows bumble? Hope he's better today. W has not done a poo for over 24 hours now - not like him.

hope you all have a lovely time tomorrow - vbab i'm shy too but you'll be fine!

Will try get back later!

barbs, sorry about your feeding probelms and sore boobs. I am with you all the way on the milk blister; who would've thunk something so small could be sooo sore! I read on kellymom that oversupply issues can cause recurrent bouts of mastitis and also milk blisters and certainly since I've been doing block feeding and my supply has regulated itself a bit things are much better and the mastitis has stayed away.

A good way of getting back the "loving BFing" feeling is to have a babymoon. Take yourself off to bed with W for a couple of days and go back to basics and do lots of skin to skin and let him feed at his leisure giving free access to the breast, and get DH to keep you fed and watered. He can join in with the skin to skin too . Feeding in the bath is also a really nice way of reconnecting.

thanks daisy - what a lovely idea - defo need to get that 'feeling' back. really want to stay and chat but is difficult as nakking with a clucky l.o! am gonna try get some sky over our heads i think but before i go just to say probs def started from an earlier longer night sleep and massive engorgment - over supply?

but your kind words and advice have cheered me lots - do so appreciate x

Barb, I think I had a milk blister. I just popped it. Not sure I should have.
Max has cough. Off to chemist later to see what I can give him.

Barb, I think everyone in their right mind knows and in an ideal world, all children should be in bed at 7pm.
If I had the energy, I would bath babies/children/teenagers and have them all in bed by 7pm.
MY view is to try for this. But to never worry if you don't manage it.
Actually that = oblomov's mantra for everything.

Barbs so sorry about blister, mastitis and other probs . Lacks, your advice sounds lovely, lovely...barbs, as dh says, you are amazing for keeping your ds on the 98th centile just bfing despite the problems - woweee, that is not a bad mummy at all, but an amazing, dedicated, self sacrificial mum.

I aim to get babies in darkened bedroom between 7-8pm, then they have a feed. Sleeping is a different matter!!! Usually 8.00-8.30, sometimes 10pm depending. It will be difficult to wake for an 11pm feed if leave it too late. I believe Gina's last feed is 6.15pm before the 11pm one. Mine won't wake and feed, but if Will does, then go for it.

sob what gorgeous ladies you all are! merry that's such a lovely thing to say! i never looked at it like that, just that i am the reason for a sad little man - feel guilty even tho i know rationally i can't really help it.
obs i'm going to adopt your mantra and apply it! sorry for your blister too. didn't kno whether to pop or not - might try heat later.
haven't quite made it out (er obviously) as W asleep deeply and think i should not wake. is it normal to sleep lots after jabs?