November 2008 - Cooing babies, tired ladies

[LackaDAISYcal]

now I'm off to catch up.

Morning all - Yorky you have my deepest sympathy and am totally shocked at them not letting you keep dd that is terrible - Actually If it had been me I would have probably flipped especially as you are bf. ( Great tantrum person when needed !!)
Here they keep you in for 3 days as we don't have external mw care but they do give you a complete once over before they let you out ( internal check as well ) and scan if your uterus shows any signs of not contracting properly - You are also given drops methergin to help the uterus expel all the cr*p and contract back to normal . In my case I had such a fast birth that they thought I had retained placenta as after 2 days it was still a bit hard . I had a scan and a d&c there and then - all done in 30 mins - Positive vibes for you body doing its stuff !
Congrats to thos babies that go down at 7 - 7 with a feed in the middle ( or even 2). Minirosa feeds at 7 then again at 10 ( awake or dozing in the middle) then sleeps til 4 ..I cannot complain for now plus I actually enjoy the peaceful cuddle feed with her!!
Rain hit here today its horrible !!
Daisy how you feeling ?

dozy I agree that routine is amazing! The problem I have is I have been waking E up at 10.30pm but he still wakes at 2-3am is for another feed. Although he used to manage until 3-4am!?
Definately need to perservere with daytime naps, he tends to have lots of short ones .

Glad the jabs weren't too bad juanitad

your routine sounds great dozy, and I can see the logic of it, but I think if you wake them , or dream feed them, then they get used to having that feed at that time...however, with DD we would put her to bed at 7, she would wake at 1ish and then that was her until 7am. Slowly whe started stretching out that time between the 7pm feed and the 1ish one until she just didn't wake at all. Her own body adjusted to when she wanted feeding; whereas if you actively make them have a feed you have no idea when you can naturally drop that feed and they don't get used to going longer themselves.....if that makes sense. And with BF babies, they still need the nighttime feeds to help keep your supply inline with their demands so far better to let them decide when they want it as it suits their growing needs.

but routines as a rule are fine, just not with nightime feeding and sleeping

I'm feeling a bit more positive this morning, but am going to see my psych now so will have a good chat to him about things.

a late night for bumble last night and it was midnight before he settled. I had to wake him up at half seven this morning as my right boob was going to burst!!

oops, gonna be late; later xx

Morning all and well done to all those sleeping babies, had a quick scan through the last pages but will have a proper read through later.
Yorky hope you feel better soon and your body takes care of things.
obs glad things seem to be on the up
Chocolategal I too need to persevere with daytime naps

I have a question has anyone had their period yet?? The reason I am asking is this is my third one since 30th Dec I stopped bf at 6 weeks and first period was very heavy lasted a week then stopped had a clear week then had a light one lasting 4 days had another clear week then woke this morning and lo and behold it is here again .

Morning all!

Got to go, am slightly covered in sick, but just wanted to say how vvv impressed I am by all these rolling babies! Fin is like his mummy and just lies around the place making a lot of noise...

Who was it who said they keep forgetting to do tummy time? Anyway, Me Too, and he hates it as well. So we can both feel guilty together!

Okay, off to shower and boil my jamas.

Hugs to Lacks, hope you are feeling better this morning.

hi ellielou can't believe youhave had 3 periods - I stopped BF (if you could call it that) at 10 days and still not had a period - should I be worrying??? Anyone????

daisy I have found with other DC's that when you feed them at 1030/11 (ie 4 hours after last feed) they take quite a bit at 1030/11pm feed. I then bought this forward to 10pm and once they started solids, they dropped this feed naturally. can't remember if that is the GF way, but worked for both my other DC's and obviously better for me to go to bed at 1030pm and not to awake in the middle of the night IYSWIM.

Anyone got a good lemon drizzle recipe to hand? Can't remember of the top of my head, and can't find my recipe..........

Am laughing at Tiger - she has a mirror on her playmat and is talking to herself! Has been for the last 20mins whilst I MN

Daisy how are oyu feeling today??

Pinkytiger Don't let M get you down today, be strong and don't let her affect you, you are sdoing so well and taking this forward.

Hi dozy no i dont think you should worry I was hoping for more of a break and mmmmm lemon drizzle sounds good wonder how many WW points that is
Glad you are feeling better daisy
Waves to everyone

suxch a cop out though ellielou as use FAKE SUGAR...not quite the same, but means I can have a slice or 2!!

Dozy do you still want the lemon cake recipe?? I can copy and paste it if you do....

Will catch up more but am OHT so a bit difficult

dozy that is genius

INGREDIENTS
9 oz sugar
9 oz butter
12 oz self-rising flour
4 eggs
3 tsp baking powder
6 Tbsp milk
grated rind from 2 lemons
juice from these lemons separately

METHOD

Preheat oven to 325 degrees/Gas Mark 3/170C/ Mix all the ingredients together in the mixer except for lemon juice. Bake in 9 X 11 (or 13) baking dish. Bake for 30 to 40 minutes until knife comes out clean. While the cake is baking, squeeze the juice from the lemons and heat for 20 seconds or so in the microwave. Set at least one tablespoon aside to drizzle into the cake when it comes out of the oven. Take the balance of the warm lemon juice and add icing sugar (confectioners sugar) to consistency you like. As soon as you take the cake from the oven, prick cake with fork and pour over the reserved warm lemon juice. Next, spread the icing over the cake to finish it off.

ceebee am also OHT - thanks so much!!!

Back from the head doctor. I have to up my ADs . I've been getting some pretty horrible unwanted thoughts recently and stupidly thought I was just being daft but he says obsessive thoughts are often a symptom of PND. Soooooo we'll see if upping the dose stops them; if not I might have to go on a heavy duty dose. Got to tell DH about it somehow as I've not really told him how I've been feeling or what I've been thinking, mainly because I felt really silly talking about it, but he knows things haven't been right for a few weeks.

Pinky, I hope things go well this afternoon. Try and be strong and keep in your mind that you can say No, and without having to justify it to anyone.

OHT????

Dozy are you making me a lemon drizzle for my birthday, next monday, at Choc's ?
I am assuming this is your practice run for |MY birthday cake ?

Daisy OHT is one-handed typing - can't really say 'NAK' as am not bfing

Sorry to hear of upping AD's daisy. ARe you allright ?

I'm fine Obs, thanks. Fed up, as I was doing great when DS was first born, but at least I'm getting good support.

thanks for the clarification Ceebee, but you are still nursing imo

Thanks Daisy and Dozy. THis soo hard. I was panicking last night that I am doing the same thign withy my DS, as he is soo sweet at wanting to cheer me up. I guess that is normal- it's when parents take advantage of this, but I am soo paranoid aboutit all. I still have phases of thinking it may all be in my head.

Had a terrible night lasdt night- temperature and being very sick, feel really crappy today. M is going to collect DS from school without me. Not what I wanted at all but she just announced that was what she was doing and I'm just feeling to crappy to argue.

Daisy sorry to hear you may have PND again do you get any sort of therapy to go with the pills?

ceebee I reckon you are NAKing, too.

rutho no rolling here either! Imi really does not like tmmy time. DD1 quite liked it, DS didn't. They are all fine with roundy heads!

Dozy Imi will spend a lot of time on herr mat- she loves it. DD1 chatts to her a lot when she's on it, so I don't feel too bad!

periods. I got one. . I am pretty much exclusively bfing 2 babies, maybe 4 small bottles of formula a week. I didn't get a period for 8 months with ds1. I am FED UP! It's supposed to be one of the perks. Dozy am if you haven't had one, wouldn't worry, especially if you don't want any more kids - enjoy!

Maybe it's a downer week. I am feeling rubbish too. Babies not sleeping. Feel like a bad mum cos seems like everyone else's babies can sleep so much more (pinky and daisy, how do you get your babies to sleep while demand feeding?). I must be doing something wrong. Mine still up 3x per night (12,3,6). Makes no difference if they sleep more/ less in the day, feed more/ less. Had a couple of lucky good nights, but not changing really. Boo hoo. Maybe it's the period making me .

Well, off to try and catch up a bit...

merry oh dear, on the periods thing. I don't know how much of a difference it makes. friend of mine has hers 6 weeks after baby.

I also don't know why Imi is so contented. no way dd1 wouls settle herself like this. It must be down to simple differens in babies? She has been able to settle herself after a feed pretty much from the get go, no tears. I think she just likes sleep!

I wish I could be more help.

merry, there is so much store set on babies sleeping through and it seems to be the optimum benchmark for all babies, but it's rubbish. Most babies don't sleep through, especially not BF babies, so don't feel bad. You sound like Supermum to me and are doing a fantastic job under tricky circumstances . and bear in mind that bumble is awake and feeding on and off all evening ie no sleep at all between five and elevnish. That's a long time for a baby to be awake so he needs his sleep after it.

I got my period back when DD was 9 weeks old and she never had any formula. She had dropped the middle of the night feed a couple of weeks before though so obvioulsy that was enough to trigger ovulation. And thinking back to that and the fact bumble is sleeping more.....I can probably look forward to mine putting in an appearance soon!

Pink, {{{{hugs}}}}

Merry, you are doing a fab job.
No sleeping, here.
No rolling, here.
No tummy time, here - not liked.
No periods, here, though - can't remmember with ds1.

furrytiger, you haven't said no YET! hope all goes well today.

thanks for reassurance daisy. i wish i lived up the road from you and you could come round for some mutual hugging and (bought!) cake and lack of judgment at messy house! hope the upped dose works for you. telling the dh is hard, but sometimes helps them see what a hard time really having. (well, for my dh he didn't believe it until he saw me taking medication as he knows it is not something i would do lightly as i never take anything).

maybe got period back cos sometimes go from about 8pm to 2pm without feeding, as they get a bottle about midnight. dd gets expressed milk and ds2 gets formula if i haven't managed to express 2 bottles.

sometimes i think i am losing my mind. yesterday i couldn't remember which direction the cars come in, from the right or left as i was crossing road.

tummy time. what's that? not done here. just forget. rolling babies. my goodness. ds1 did not roll till 7 months! he is now extremely active, obsessed with sports, loves doing his 'pressups' and dancing to his lazytown songs.

barbs. are you out there? i washed the gro and vest! we should meet again...are you going back to work or will you be around in the summer?