October 08 - the one without an imaginative title.

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10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
12th Sept (Due 6th Oct) - iuseantiageingstuff - Boy - Fred William - 8lbs 13.5oz - Induction due to high BP.
14th Sept (Due 14th Oct) - twinklytoes - Boy - Samuel - 7lbs 4.5oz - Em C-Sec due to grade 4 PP.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
20th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - kookiegoddess - Girl - Reya Marie - - Induction due to OC, epidural, 3rd degree tear.
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
27th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - accessorizequeen - Boy twin - Felix - 6lbs 8oz -
27th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - accessorizequeen - Girl twin - Bridget - 7lbs 7oz -
1st Oct (Due 29th Sept) - WombFor1More - Boy - Harvey James - 8lbs 13oz - Homebirth, no pain relief.
2nd Oct (Due 4th Oct) - annwoo - Boy - TBA - 8lbs 7oz - Amazing birth!
2nd Oct (Due 30th Sept) - sambrads - Girl - Brooke - 7lbs 9.5oz -
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
2nd Oct (Due 8th Oct) - Alexa808 - Girl - Tienette - 7lbs 4.5oz - Planned c-sec
3rd Oct (Due 5th Oct) - rosebury - Boy - Austin - 9lbs 2oz - Delivered at home by dh!
3rd Oct (Due 6th Oct) - Bethoo - Girl - Maia - 7lbs -
3rd Oct (Due 6th Oct) - hoff - Boy - Oliver - -
3rd Oct (Due 19th Oct) - MrsTittleMouse - Girl - - -
3rd Oct (Due Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - - 8lbs 10.5oz - Homebirth with paramedics due to meconium.
4th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - 1sttimer80 - Boy - - 8lbs 10.5oz -
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept) - plusonemore - Boy - Alfie Thomas - 8lbs - Induction, epidural
5th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - MrsBish - Girl - Rachel - 8lbs 8oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
7th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - Emmsy1 - Girl - Amy Louise - 5lbs 12oz -
7th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - snowymum - Boy - Rowan Michael - - Home water birth
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
8th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - 07mumstheword - Girl - Freya Mae - 7lbs 12oz -
8th Oct (Due 16th Oct) - moodywren - Boy - Hayden - 6lbs 9.5oz - Homebirth
9th Oct (Due 27th Sept) - Pidge - Boy - Arthur - 8lbs 14oz - Homebirth
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
11th Oct (Due 3rd Oct) - usuallytooshytochat - Girl - Megan Leah - 8lbs 2oz - Homebirth with ambulance crew!
11th Oct (Due 14th Oct) - tedmundo - Boy - Patrick Francis - 6lbs 15oz - C-Sec for breech
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.
13th Oct (Due 15th Oct) - mum2jakeyroo - Boy - - 7lbs 2oz - Delivered in car by dh!
13th Oct (Due 7th Oct) - belgo - Boy - Wolf - 8lbs 7oz - Home water birth
13th Oct (Due 19th Oct) - rach010 - Girl - - 6lbs 11oz - Gas & air, small tear, no stitches.
13th Oct (Due 21st Oct) - caramelbunny - Girl - Megan Ruby - 5lbs 12oz - Em C-Sec under GA.
13th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - firsttimer08 - Boy - - -
15th Oct (Due 29th Sept) - perkypopsy - Girl - Stella Frances - 8lbs 14oz -
16th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - rowanmac - Girl - Anna Ruth - 7lbs 2oz - 2 hours ARM to placenta delivery.
16th Oct (Due 12th Oct) - milfakamonkeymonkeymoomoo - Boy - - 9lbs 13.5oz - Home water birth
17th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - ajm200 - Girl - Amelia Caitlyn - 7lbs 2oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz -
17th Oct (Due 27th Oct) - Rhian82 - Boy - - - Episiotomy and ventouse.
17th Oct (Due 22nd Oct) - pingviner - Boy - Teemu Finn - 7lbs 15oz - Em C-Sec
18th Oct (Due 13th Oct) - YumMum22 - Boy - - 10lbs - Home water birth
20th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - emkay - Boy - - 9lbs 8oz -
20th Oct (Due 16th Oct) - bigmouthstrikesagain - Girl - Polly - 8lbs 7oz - Good hospital birth with synto drip.
21st Oct (Due 16th Oct) - WheresTheAuPair - Boy - Finley Peter - 9lbs 7oz - Elective c-sec
21st Oct (Due 21st Oct) - hansnava - Girl - Sophia Leigh - 7lbs 6oz - Elective c-sec
23rd Oct (Due 26th Oct) - 4andnotout - Girl - Tilly-Grace - 7lbs 0.5oz - 2 pushes and out!
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 24th Oct) - sparklesandwine - Girl - Poppy - 8lbs 13oz -
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz -
27th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - nuclear - Boy - - 8lbs 13oz - Gas & air and some stitches.
28th Oct (Due 30th Oct) - Jambers99 - Girl - Hannah Louise - 7lbs 3oz - Straightforward and quick labour.
31st Oct (Due 20th Oct) - KnickersOnMaHead - Boy - Samuel Paul - 9lbs 11oz - No stitches!
31st Oct (Due 21st Oct) - GirlWithTheMouseyHair - Boy - Ethan Christopher Loy - - Homebirth.
1st Nov (Due 25th Oct) - Flum - Boy - Bob - 8lbs 10oz - 4 hour labour with gas & air, pethidine and a healthy dose of champagne!
1st Nov (Due 22nd Oct) - SmudgeyDoodle - Girl - - 8lbs 2oz - Hospital water birth.
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz -
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz - Em C-Sec. Back to back and knotted cord around neck.
5th Nov (Due 23rd Oct) - Sallypuss - Girl - Eibhlin Alexandra - 9lbs 4oz - Induction, 15 hour labour then emergency c-section.

(apols if I've missed off anyone who has joined us post-natally.

That looks like a good document honeymoon.

I got a call from a nursery nurse today to say that she had heard (from hv) that we were having problems with ds' sleeping. I told her he was getting better thanks, although would only sleep on tummy. She sounded a bit concerned and checked that I knew that they were supposed to sleep on their backs.
A few mins later I got a call from another hv to admonish me for co-sleeping and for letting him sleep on his tummy. The 'breastfeeding fraternity' seemingly think that co-sleeping is ok . Apparently I am going wrong by trying to put him down on his back asleep, and I should be putting him down awake and then all my problems would be solved. Now why didn't I think of that .

Oh yes smudgey - ds was standing up the other day with just me holding his hands, and I wondered if the others were doing this too. Dd was also strong-legged from very early, and turned out to be an early crawler/cruiser/walker, so I'm wondering whether ds will turn out to be the same.

CSWS, my HV told me I should be putting DD down awake too and she was at the age I was starting to make a rod for my own back. Sorry, did you not hear the bit about her screaming whenever she's not feeding or asleep?????? And maybe its a good idea to sort out the reflux first??? WTF?????

She also told me I should start using a dummy. I've been holding off but think I might try it tonight. What do you think?

She's been bf ing constantly since 5. I've got a blister on each nipple for the first time. Slapping on the lansinoh. The cot has just been erected and is sitting next to the bed, looking at me...

csws ds has been standing like that and pushing himself up to a "stand" when im holding his hands or armsfor a few weeks. i was wondering the same... does it mean he wll crawl or walk early?

if i remember the 'standing' is a reflex action, it's one of then newborn tests that's done when they are examined by the dr.
dd did it and she didn't walk till she was 13 months

here you go www.healthscout.com/ency/1/002004.html

Morning all
I have dd's 1&2 home from school and playschool today as they have the dreaded nits, so we are all sitting here fumigating from nit lotion, even dd3 (15 months) has it on!
Im really lucky really as Tilly-Grace is phenomenally good, but im touching wood that it continues!
As for sex, we started doing it again maybe a couple of weeks after she was born, i didn't have tears or stitches to contend with though. Having 4 kids just means it's very hard to find the time! It inevitably means it's a quickie at the weekends when they all have a lay in!
DD3 has been very clingy since dd4 was born, i think as she is still only a baby, it has put her nose out a bit but she is brilliant with Tilly-Grace and isn't jealous of her, just "her" time i think!

Afternoon everyone! Well, the first night in the cot didnt go as badly as I'd expected. Yes, I only got 4 hours sleep. But this was 1 hour plus 3 hours straight so there's hope... a good start I think.

Poor thing is knackered, she's been asleep in the car seat for a couple of hours, wasn't too happy to be woken up either!

I'm off to the cranial osteopath shortly, wish me luck!!

so... my best friend (the one who looks after ds)... her husband told her this morning that he's been seeing another woman for 10 months ... hasn't touched her (yeah right) but can't help his feelings for her. There is no one in the world who I would say is a couple more in love than they are/were... he seemed like the perfect husband and father and to think he's just been lying for 10 months. I'm disgusted. I hate him for doing this to her. I can't believe this. I truly looked at their relationship as one that I aspired for dh and mine to be (they are 10 years older than us)... how disappointing Am so for her and makes me see my own relationship in a new light. I think it has dh freaked out...
I'm going to seek private therapy for my issues with sex I think... I don't want this to ruin our relationship... apparently sex is very important to men. At this point i'd be ok with never doing it again. and that's the honest truth.

oh star don't forget that your life and body have changed so much over the last year, birth is a huge trauma and you have to give yourself time to get over it. you are also adjusting to being a mum (or mom!), there are now 3 of you in your relationship, things will change and settle down.

for your friend star. Has he told her this because he is leaving her for the OW?

Yay for Naomi's weight gain and supportive HV myjob.

How did you get on with the CO honeymoon? 4 hours sounds like a fair night to me. Well done poppy . Did you try a dummy too? Ds won't take one so I don't have that option unfortunately.

Had a really busy day today. Big toddler group party this morning, then in to town to get a couple of last minute presents. Home for lunch, then prepped turkey (for another Christmas party tomorrow), then went to another friend's for dd to play, then back home where in-laws were waiting with dh, all had dinner, but dd wouldn't eat much and wanted to go to bed, so sorted her out, then came down and calmed down a hysterical ds (swaddling, bonjela and a big feed). Evening stuff was interspersed with checking and basting turkey which dh put in oven for me whilst I was out. It's now had its 5 hours and is out of the oven and looking lovely.

Whilst I was feeding ds, I overheard bits of a conversation between mil and dh, and when I heard her saying that I must be exhausted I thought that she was sticking up for me and telling dh that he needed to pull his weight a bit more, but it turns out that it's my own fault that I'm knackered because I pander to ds and carry him around, whereas I should just put him down on his back and let him cry .

OH MY GOD CSWS!!! Feel free to throw DS's dirty nappy in her face!!!! Its the "old school" thing isnt it. I read once again last night that experts believe that you shouldnt leave a newborn to cry for more than 5 mins and this makes them more confident and self reliant later on. So put that in your pipe and smoke it Mrs CSWS's Mother In Law!!!

Oh My God. Cranial osteopathy ROCKS!!!!! He didnt seem to be doing much but she didnt cry at all, looked like she was gonna start but then calmed down again. She then slept for 4 hours after so I thought I'm gonna have a crap nite, esp as only 2nd night in the cot...she only slept for 5 HOURS STRAIGHT!!!!! Then another hour or so after. AND she's asleep now on DH. Its a MIRACLE!!! When she's woken she's not automatically screaming within 60 seconds either. I cant say for sure if its the cranial osteopathy or the gaviscon or the fact she was so knackered from the night before but I'm a happy mummy right now

I tried the dummy but she really choked on it so I chickened out!

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend Star, appearances can often be misleading and a happy couple can sometimes be rockier than a couple who argue all the time and clear the air (like DH and I!).

Re the therapy, I know how you feel, I couldnt go near the "scene of the crime" until I had a quick feel this week, 6 weeks in. . It feels different, like there is some skin missing that was there before. The turning point for me to even do that was the doctor doing it on the 6 week check, that reassured me that things weren't too bad in that department. Maybe try taking small brave steps in that direction, one day at a time and see how you get on? Its not as bad as you think its going to be xxx

myjob - collect that milk in bottles and send it to me
I prevent leaks by getting up every few hours to express (ds usually helps me remember anyway ). Imagine how much milk you would have in your freezer if you got up even once per night to express! But I appreciate you'd rather sleep.... so ... not sure what to do!

Yay for your CO honeymoon. Hope tonight is just as good.

Eek at the thought of taking my two to the cinema myjob - very brave of you! Dd would just get bored and run around, and ds would prob get tired and scream!

No imaginative suggestions from me re milk myjob, but think you are right that expressing will just cause it to last for longer, so hope that it sorts itself out naturally soon.

Had a lovely albeit tiring day today, having Christmas lunch with my post-natal friends (from dd). We used a scout hut that one of them has access to, and did all the food ourselves, and had some crafty activities and then lots of running about outside. Dd got massively muddy rolling about in the grass (encouraged by one of my friends, but at least she was keeping dd happy and occupied), and came home very tired, even falling asleep in the car. Ds was really no hassle, sitting happily in his bouncy chair with his musical gym to kick whilst we ate, and later kicking about on the floor about 2 feet from some giant speakers playing kids music. We're quite sure he was kicking in time to the music too . He had 2 big feeds from me whilst there, and dh walked about with him in the carrier when he needed a sleep, so it all worked out very well.

Am now knackered though (dd and thus me up quite early this morning), so am aiming to be in bed by 9, and hoping that ds can repeat (or improve on) his 6 hour stretch of sleep from last night . I was dead chuffed, as that's the longest he's gone, and I slept for almost 4 hours of that straight too. He woke again an hour after his feed, but got a nappy change and another big feed and then went off again until after dd had already got me up.

Honeymoonmummy CO had that effect on DS1 and absolutely saved us, so I'm a great fan of it - even took DD to be checked out even tho she's been fine, just in case!
CSWS - MILs are basically sent to annoy us as far as I can see! Things have changed so much since they were new mums and I don't think they realise it. Hurray for getting more sleep tho.
I've had a fab day - went out for lunch with my girlfriends to a Loch Fyne and a spot of shopping, left DH in charge of all the small ones ably abetted by his mother, who thoroughly enjoyed a day with them, and I wasn't here!
Have now wrapped up all presents for boys and DD just stirring, so a feed and bed for me.
Sleep well everyone
(Oh, and grrrr for your friend's DH, Star!)

honeymoonmummy thanks for thosed links... some really useful info in there. She doesn't seem to be bothered by the constant sicking up other than a little cough, so that side of things is fine, just me worrying about her doing it when she's away from me in the evening and choking (and the constant damp neck!) I am tring to keep her upright as much as possible... but every time i try tunny time for her neck muscles she pukes on the play mat!!

CSWS Emma wouldn't be put down for the first couple of months and my MIL suggested putting her in another room to cry... erm let me think on that... NO! great news re duncan's sleeping - i don't know how you have managed

star sorry to hear about your friend, how awful. I hope it gets sorted.

Been ok here, Dd fine and sleeping well, just does not settle between 7-10 but then sleeps for a long stretch, was 5 this am so not bad.

parents taking them to see fater xmas this am so I can go do my shopping eek! I tried to do it online but do deliveries available so having to go to tescos with all the other manic shoppers.

No sex here yet either although DH would want it now but dont get time!!!! Will be going down that avenue (or cave after a 9 lber!!) soon. What are people doing contraception wise?

Well off now as dd will be awake again soon for feed.

Myjob ? I also have a milk leakage problem and I recently bought some really large reasable breast pads and I?ve found them really good. They?re much more absorbent than the Avent reusables that I was using. I think they are these ones.

Star ? Sorry to hear about your friend. Maybe counselling is a good idea, as it sounds like you still feel quite traumatised about your birth experience. Apparently breastfeeding can lower your libido, so that may also be contributing to the way you?re feeling. Any decent man won?t pressurise you into sex so don?t feel pushed to perform if you?re not ready. I hope you all get to enjoy some quality time together over the school holidays.

Yay for 6 hours sleep CSWS! Ds went for 5 hours for the first time the other night, and I kept waking up wondering why he hadn?t fed! Sorry you?re being undermined by your mil. It?s bad enough being knackered, never mind being told it?s all your fault. I think it?s a generational thing. Although my mum would never say anything, I think she thinks I?m making a rod for my own back with co-sleeping and using a sling. She breastfed me and my sister for a year each, but apparently only every 3 hours. They used to leave us to cry in order to space the feed out. I was quite surprised, as I didn?t think my mum would approve of that sort of thing (she was a nursery teacher and big on child-centred stuff), but it was just the way they did it 40 years ago.

Anyway, essay over. Enjoy your day everybody.

Been shoppping and my back is in agony now after pushing trolly about!

Well, looked at condoms and cant believe how much they cost so never got any!! Will leave it up to DH

Have a good eve. DD1 watching ET, DD2 asleep, DH in the loft and I am cooking tea but c an see in about half an hour it all going pear shaped!

Hi all! Well, we had 5 hours straight sleep for the second night running in the new cot . Is it a bit weird to buy the cranial osteopath an expensive Xmas present after meeting him once??

CSWS WELL DONE! 5 hours is brill! Was that in the Amby or have you given up on that?

Jenwa, I'm going to be tested for a coil on Tuesday, the one with progesterone, I haven't had one before but seems the easiest solution. Might be a while before we use it tho!

My dad is driving me crackers with the "advice" too CSWS, he means well tho...

My friend has just given birth and her DS had to be taken back into hospital for losing 13% of his body weight in the first week as her milk production is low. He's OK now and on a mix of express and formula. Has anyone got any tips for how she can get her milk production up?

Just a quick post as the inlaws are here!

Honeymoonmummy - obviously lots of feeding helps milk production, but in addition Domperidone is known to help (it can be prescribed by a doctor, or it is in the indigestion tablets motilium which I think you can buy over the counter). Other things are fennel or nettle tea (at least 2 cups a day) & fenugreek tablets (from Holland & Barret). That was the advice I was given with dd. Can she see a bf counsellor to help her with the latch etc?

CSWS ignore the mil comments. Its definitely a generational thing. You are doing a fantastic job.

Must go & get dinner, I'll catch up with the rest of the thread later!

whoops meant trolley!

honeymoonmummy When you say tested for the coil how do they test?
Also not too sure re milk production but I think you should keep latching them on as often as poss to make the keep making the milk produce.
Well done on your 5hrs sleep, how lovely. We will hopefully have our loft done soon, Dh been working hard to get it done as had no time recently due to his job going into administration and him sorting a new buisness. Once we go in the loft DD1 will go in our room and DD2 in her room so we can get the bog cot set up and start getting her used to her own room. DD1 slept in her own room at 8 weeks so would like dd2 to be in hers asap. It awful as I am always trying o be quiet so not to wake her etc and the lack of sex is getting to Dh so best she in her own room and we dont have to worry about her in the room with us grunting or snorting in her cot as she does when she is disturbed!