October 08 - the one without an imaginative title.

[CantSleepWontSleep]

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
12th Sept (Due 6th Oct) - iuseantiageingstuff - Boy - Fred William - 8lbs 13.5oz - Induction due to high BP.
14th Sept (Due 14th Oct) - twinklytoes - Boy - Samuel - 7lbs 4.5oz - Em C-Sec due to grade 4 PP.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
20th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - kookiegoddess - Girl - Reya Marie - - Induction due to OC, epidural, 3rd degree tear.
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
27th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - accessorizequeen - Boy twin - Felix - 6lbs 8oz -
27th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - accessorizequeen - Girl twin - Bridget - 7lbs 7oz -
1st Oct (Due 29th Sept) - WombFor1More - Boy - Harvey James - 8lbs 13oz - Homebirth, no pain relief.
2nd Oct (Due 4th Oct) - annwoo - Boy - TBA - 8lbs 7oz - Amazing birth!
2nd Oct (Due 30th Sept) - sambrads - Girl - Brooke - 7lbs 9.5oz -
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
2nd Oct (Due 8th Oct) - Alexa808 - Girl - Tienette - 7lbs 4.5oz - Planned c-sec
3rd Oct (Due 5th Oct) - rosebury - Boy - Austin - 9lbs 2oz - Delivered at home by dh!
3rd Oct (Due 6th Oct) - Bethoo - Girl - Maia - 7lbs -
3rd Oct (Due 6th Oct) - hoff - Boy - Oliver - -
3rd Oct (Due 19th Oct) - MrsTittleMouse - Girl - - -
3rd Oct (Due Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - - 8lbs 10.5oz - Homebirth with paramedics due to meconium.
4th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - 1sttimer80 - Boy - - 8lbs 10.5oz -
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept) - plusonemore - Boy - Alfie Thomas - 8lbs - Induction, epidural
5th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - MrsBish - Girl - Rachel - 8lbs 8oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
7th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - Emmsy1 - Girl - Amy Louise - 5lbs 12oz -
7th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - snowymum - Boy - Rowan Michael - - Home water birth
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
8th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - 07mumstheword - Girl - Freya Mae - 7lbs 12oz -
8th Oct (Due 16th Oct) - moodywren - Boy - Hayden - 6lbs 9.5oz - Homebirth
9th Oct (Due 27th Sept) - Pidge - Boy - Arthur - 8lbs 14oz - Homebirth
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
11th Oct (Due 3rd Oct) - usuallytooshytochat - Girl - Megan Leah - 8lbs 2oz - Homebirth with ambulance crew!
11th Oct (Due 14th Oct) - tedmundo - Boy - Patrick Francis - 6lbs 15oz - C-Sec for breech
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.
13th Oct (Due 15th Oct) - mum2jakeyroo - Boy - - 7lbs 2oz - Delivered in car by dh!
13th Oct (Due 7th Oct) - belgo - Boy - Wolf - 8lbs 7oz - Home water birth
13th Oct (Due 19th Oct) - rach010 - Girl - - 6lbs 11oz - Gas & air, small tear, no stitches.
13th Oct (Due 21st Oct) - caramelbunny - Girl - Megan Ruby - 5lbs 12oz - Em C-Sec under GA.
13th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - firsttimer08 - Boy - - -
15th Oct (Due 29th Sept) - perkypopsy - Girl - Stella Frances - 8lbs 14oz -
16th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - rowanmac - Girl - Anna Ruth - 7lbs 2oz - 2 hours ARM to placenta delivery.
16th Oct (Due 12th Oct) - milfakamonkeymonkeymoomoo - Boy - - 9lbs 13.5oz - Home water birth
17th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - ajm200 - Girl - Amelia Caitlyn - 7lbs 2oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz -
17th Oct (Due 27th Oct) - Rhian82 - Boy - - - Episiotomy and ventouse.
17th Oct (Due 22nd Oct) - pingviner - Boy - Teemu Finn - 7lbs 15oz - Em C-Sec
18th Oct (Due 13th Oct) - YumMum22 - Boy - - 10lbs - Home water birth
20th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - emkay - Boy - - 9lbs 8oz -
20th Oct (Due 16th Oct) - bigmouthstrikesagain - Girl - Polly - 8lbs 7oz - Good hospital birth with synto drip.
21st Oct (Due 16th Oct) - WheresTheAuPair - Boy - Finley Peter - 9lbs 7oz - Elective c-sec
21st Oct (Due 21st Oct) - hansnava - Girl - Sophia Leigh - 7lbs 6oz - Elective c-sec
23rd Oct (Due 26th Oct) - 4andnotout - Girl - Tilly-Grace - 7lbs 0.5oz - 2 pushes and out!
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 24th Oct) - sparklesandwine - Girl - Poppy - 8lbs 13oz -
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz -
27th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - nuclear - Boy - - 8lbs 13oz - Gas & air and some stitches.
28th Oct (Due 30th Oct) - Jambers99 - Girl - Hannah Louise - 7lbs 3oz - Straightforward and quick labour.
31st Oct (Due 20th Oct) - KnickersOnMaHead - Boy - Samuel Paul - 9lbs 11oz - No stitches!
31st Oct (Due 21st Oct) - GirlWithTheMouseyHair - Boy - Ethan Christopher Loy - - Homebirth.
1st Nov (Due 25th Oct) - Flum - Boy - Bob - 8lbs 10oz - 4 hour labour with gas & air, pethidine and a healthy dose of champagne!
1st Nov (Due 22nd Oct) - SmudgeyDoodle - Girl - - 8lbs 2oz - Hospital water birth.
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz -
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz - Em C-Sec. Back to back and knotted cord around neck.
5th Nov (Due 23rd Oct) - Sallypuss - Girl - Eibhlin Alexandra - 9lbs 4oz - Induction, 15 hour labour then emergency c-section.

(apols if I've missed off anyone who has joined us post-natally.

I can understand baby gym envy. We've got two for DD and a special tummy time thing which she HATES! They use them until them can sit up on their own. I think the guidelines say up to 6 months. Some have the facility to just be a play mat, then you can use them for however long. Of the two we have, one can be converted for older babies and the other can't. We got the second one for a change and DD does seem to like to see different things hanging above her head!

I really wouldn't get another gym at this stage Aubergenie - he will only get decent use out of it if he is a very late roller/sitter/crawler. Better IMO to spend the money on one of these or these.
Or if his bouncy chair isn't one that lasts into toddlerhood, get one like I got for ds this week (here) as he's loving playing with the dangly toys on his, so it's sort of acting like a gym too.

or one of these Aubergenie - we have a previous incarnation of it (from freecycle) and there is one at a baby group we went to, and they always seem to get loads of use. The legs detach so once they are sitting they can play with it at floor level.

or have I recommended this before? Can be used in 3 ways, the first hanging over them like a gym, and the final as a stand up piano, so should last at least 2 years.

This looks like a similar idea.

What would we do without you CSWS?! [awe emoticon]

Just been to cranial osteopath for 4th time, he said she's improved a lot

That's good honeymoon.

Can you tell that ds is asleep on my lap so I can do little else but MN? Dd is watching Peppa Pig just for a change .

Poppy is addicted to Baby TV. What was that i was saying about not letting her watch before the age of 3?

Who was it with the minimalist house/flat? Was it star? How is that going now?

Hi, just a quick post - welcome Mathasmama!

We're all shattered. Ds has decided that he can't go more than 1.5hrs without a feed at night and only manages a max of 2 hrs during the day, plus dd was up loads last night, now has a streaming cold, bright red cheeks and has barely eaten today so I have a horrible feeling she may be teething again.... Still, we're surviving, though I may or may not manage to get through this afternoon without resorting to tv as well!

Got to go and get some chocolate healthy snacks to see me through till dinner

just seen about that plane crash that landed in the sea! How scary is that, I read about the mother clinging to her child, It makes you feel sick to think what could have happened, it feels so worse when children are involved (especially when you have your own)
Luckily all survived.

Sorry, it is just sooo scary but everyone safe and well!

csws yes you are mumsnetting today! Peppa pig is fab sometimes I am still watching in and realise DD has gone out the room

hi all,

Ekka - you and me had the same night last night. DS1 was up til 3am coughing and sneezing. The cough linctus the doc gave us does not stop him coughing and it breaks my heart as there is nothing that seems to work - anyone know of a decent cough remedy for 3 yo? Joe is doing well and he loves his bumbo now he can get his head up to see what's going on. He rolled off the sofa onto my lap on Sunday - luckily i was sat next to him as he slept and when he woke he just flipped sideways and rolled off. No more putting him there from now on.

CSWS - I have the fabric baby bath seat from mothercare (deluxe baby bather - splish splash i think its called. Its great for now but i also have one that he can sit up in for a few months time. Joe is 15 lbs now and has outgrown his crib, cot for pram and most of his 3-6 months clothes

Ha ha Jenwa! (re Peppa pig not plane crash )

God, Poppy has only just graduated to 0-3 months!

Hi all... been reading but no time to post lately as I had loads of work piling up and ds NOT NOT NOT sleeping well... did I make it clear that night times are horrific?
csws congratulations on the 7 hours!!!
It's lovely to "meet" you MM heather was it you who had the tumble? scary! glad he's ok!
went to CO - immediately after and each day since (tues) he's been napping solid naps during the day at my friend's house but still having periods of screaming for her and doesnt like feeding when not breast though it is ebm... i think we just do whatever he wants when he screams thats why we dont hear it a lot...
I think maybe I'm doing something really wrong because he's 15 weeks now and...

• He doesn't grab at/reach for toys still... just looks at them (accidentally swipes sometimes)
• Still cries sometimes and only way to soothe is to stand up and walk around carrying him.
• won't be set down for longer than a few minutes at a time without crying (even in swing and/or bouncy seat)
• Started waking every 2 hours throughout the night (used to do a nice 4-5 hour stretch, then wake every 2 hours...)
• arches his back/body when feeding quite often
• cries and gets red in the face as if straining (out of nowhere, just does it sometimes).... sometimes a fart can relieve this and make everything ok
• often wants to be held facing OUT (not looking at us)with our arm over his tummy.

His legs are strong... he holds his head up well.... he follows sounds and smiles, gurgles, squeals with happiness... but def not grabbing for or even attempting to get toys.
I just don't know... sometimes I think it's all normal and ok and then I read what your babies are doing and I'm not sure

star please dont worry, all babies are different and development can be so different from one to another. I dont think the grabbing is expected yet so dont worry about that. He may have colic although usually grows out of that soon I think but the arching and screaming could be colic sypmtoms or just wind. He could also be having another growth spurt so getting hungry again.
If he has become used to being soothed by being carried around then maybe he is expecting this and cries to get attention to soothe him ( i am not saying it is wrong just that he may only feel that he needs you to soothe him and not understand he can calm himself down by himself) you are not doing anything wrong by holding him but maybe try to give him some time on his own to cry sometimes and see how he reacts to it? Also try getting him used to spending more time in his chair even with you talking to him whilst he is in it, or eating your dinner with him in it but still paying him attention so he knows you are still there and he can see you.
He sounds like a normal baby though to be honest and try not to worry, I am sure he is fine

Sorry if that ended quick, I was convinced Phoebe was screaming but she was not, I am hearing things now!

Just dont worry star but speak to your HV or Dr if concerned.

Star - he sounds absolutely right for his age ie swiping at toys. I think reaching and grabbing is a few weeks away yet for him. Its a good sign that he wants to look out as it shows he's sociable and interested in the world and feels safe to explore it whilst still being close to you. Joe does the arching back thing when feeding and usually means he has wind. Q obviously likes movement and that is still normal for this age group imo. Joe starting waking every few hours at night at 15 weeks - he's settled a bit since then but i think it took a good 2 weeks for my milk supply to increase enough to see him sleep for longer spells at night. Apparently, its normal at this age to start to get hungrier... The crying and red in the face out of nowhere also sounds like wind to me. Joe can be happy and gurgly one minute and suddenly cry/squeal as though he's been stabbed (I guess that's what trapped wind feels like). Have you been eating anything different recently or a lot of one particular thing?? I know its a cliche but it will pass and i remind myself of this frequently when Joe has a day of being just as you describe. Its bloody tiring and you have to go to work on top of that as well - big hugs to you sweetheart

I think it must be part of the 'baby brain' thing. Sometimes my lovely DH takes DD out so I can catch up with sleep and I often wake up, jump out of bed (well lollup really) to get her because I swear I hear her crying in her cot.

star - am sending a big hug your way to begin with, as it sounds like you really need it.
Please don't be surprised that ds isn't so keen on drinking ebm from a bottle. Breastfeeding is about so much more than the actual milk and nutrition - it's a bonding experience which provides reassurance and comfort to the baby, and Q is getting old enough now to assert his opinion on which feeding method he prefers. Try and take heart from the fact that at least he doesn't prefer the bottle and want to give up breastfeeding .

Grabbing at/reaching for toys doesn't sound abnormal at all. Ds is still more interested in eating his hands than reaching for toys! He's pulled at the ones on his new chair this week, but that is really the first proper interest he's shown.
Crying soothed only by walking - dd was still like that when she was several months old, so at this age it sounds quite normal to me for all but the most placid of babies. I only do 'spirited' children .
Setting down - perhaps he is getting too tired with his change in routine - ds won't be set down happily if he is at all tired or hungry.
The next 2 sound like maybe he is suffering from wind - now he is bigger you may need to adjust the position that you feed him in to ensure that he is still comfortable and not sucking in any air. If you're not already, you could try using a drop of infacol before a feed to see if it helps at all.
I'm guessing that you are expressing and feeding plenty to keep up your supply, so it's not likely to be an issue with this? But you're not expressing so much that you're building up an oversupply are you? I had some horrible feeds with ds when my supply was too abundant.
As for being held facing out - the hand over his tummy may be linked to wind, but more likely he just wants to face out to see what's going on in the world. Ds likes to face out in the carrier now unless he's wanting to sleep.

I may not have hit the nail on the head exactly with these, but the point is to show that either these things are not unusual, or there are explanations which don't involve you being bad parents or Q having anything wrong other than the usual frustrations of being a baby .

lol loulou - we've said virtually the same things but you managed it more succinctly than me!

This is the bath support that we have btw, that I wouldn't recommend. Liking yours too myjob.

Sorry - that was loulou not myjob.

yeh, I def have baby brain marthasmama! it is so weird as I swear I keep hearing her! Bless you thinking you heard her when she was not in the house though , and your DH is a darling taking her out for you, if only mine did that too !

Going to get the marclaren quest for dd2 I think

hereI love it

csws DD1 is walking everywhere now but DD2's pram is soooo heavy so need a light weight one and this seems fab, did you find it good when you used itand light? Heard Maclarens are fab and last ages! Will keep big pram as lovely to see DD when pushing her. (do also have a red pushchair with tray on but lining needs stitching, was a mothercare one)