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December 2006 - Terrible Two's here we come!

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Olihan · 24/11/2008 22:16

Here we go. I thought the title was apt as ds2 has morhed into a stroppy little horror overnight. His favourite expression at the moment is 'I cwoss with you, I sceam at you AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH' .

Happy Birthday ToddlerJabber and ToddlerEli .

DD is poorly again. I swear every bug in the vicinity has some kind of magnetic attraction to her . She has a bit of a temp, headache and earache today. I need to buy shares in Calpol and Medised I think.

Aoa, hotel is a very good idea - go for a posh one so you can have a vvvv hot, deep bath!

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LenniEd · 05/12/2008 17:09

Hope it went well Eli - and hope DD1 is feeling better, hopefully you'll get some respite over the weekend.

Castles - how are you feeling, no more feinting I hope?

I've had enough today, don't want to be pregnant anymore! Any ideas on how I can rememdy the situation well 35wks now so poss only a few more to go... not thinking about the potential 7 more to go... nononono that's not going to happen.

(Please no one remind me that I want this baby to be late )

Olihan · 05/12/2008 22:29

I'm struggling to keep up with you lot again! Stop talking so much .

Eli, I also see where you're coming from re. the surgery but agree with the others that the end result will be more than worth it.

Castles, how's the fainting? Is this all just a continuation of the pg issues you had? Is it low BP or nothing that simple?

Indith, was just starting to get suspicious that you hadn't appeared then realised AQ would have told us if you'd had it.

I love the photos on FB, I must update mine soon but there's so many on the camera to download and it takes forever..........

Ds2 has suddenly become the stroppiest, most tantrummy (almost) 2yo I've ever seen. Everything is a reason for a tantrum - getting dressed, getting undressed, nappy changes, what he wants to eat, what he doesn't want to eat, getting in the car, getting out of the car, it's constant. And they're not just whinges, they are full on kicking, screaming half hour to an hour epics that he will not be coaxed out of. It is driving me demented because I know that whatever I want to do is going to involve major amounts of stress. I was so angry with him earlier I literally threw him onto his bed and stormed out . It's horrible and I want my sweet baby back.

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Elibean · 05/12/2008 22:38

LenniEd you're allowed to contradict yourself, in your condition! Those last few weeks are still vivid in my memory, I feel for you. Though weirdly (and I don't have your excuse for contradiction) also a little . Very odd.

Oli, dd2 is also getting v stroppy these days, tonsils or no tonsils; she arched when put in buggy yesterday, then screamed hysterically for ten minutes while I wheeled her down the road with passersby giving her sympathetic looks and glaring at me , says 'I don't LIKE it' with alarming clarity...she can still turn on the charm though, little minx.

dd1 has turned the corner, I think, and Santa's job is done (beautifully), so if dd2 manages not to gasp too much tonight I am going to let go of it all and sleeeeeep....

LenniEd · 05/12/2008 22:47

Oli/Eli - another stroppy one here. DD suddenly discovered the concept of "Mine". Yells it at the highest pitch and volume she can muster if we dare move anything that she has claimed as her own. This morning it was my breakfast . Aaarrrghhhh! But bless her, she's so cute in between that I can forgive her.

(And I'm sure I'll be a little of very pregnant people in a couple of years, but only because of the end result, am actually getting quite excited... but don't tell anyone!)

jabberwocky · 06/12/2008 03:32

"Mine" has been a favorite word around here recently too. Just wait until she has a sibling rival, lol.

Elibean · 06/12/2008 08:52

Yup, 'mine' was dd2's first word, thanks to sibling

LenniEd, hang on to that excitement - only way to survive the end bit, and very much warranted!

dd1 has NO fever, hurray, is pale and shaky but on the mend...thinking of giving in to impatient Small Ones and getting tree today.... (oh ok, giving in to impatient me, too....)

Elibean · 06/12/2008 08:53

first English word, that is. Wish I could get dd1 to speak more French to dd2

LenniEd · 06/12/2008 20:28

Wish I could speak another language Eli - they'll be so grateful for it when they're grown up

Baby engaged I think - dropped right down and pressing very painfully on pubic bone. Had painful contractions on and off all day so assuming that is why... hope doesn't arrive just yet though, only 35 weeks so could do with another couple of weeks to cook. Am sure I'll squeeze another 7 in knowing my luck!

Indith · 06/12/2008 20:40

Stop contracting you wannabe queue jumper

Seriously woman keep your legs together and let it cook a while longer.

Mind you mine drops, gies me painful cfamps for a couple of days then I wake up the next morning with it attacking my ribs again. Wish it would bloody well make its mind up

Ds slept til 8am, would feel very well rested if it hadn't been for the police knocking at the door in the wee small hours. There had been a call regarding a disturbance at our address, thankfully they didn't really see the need to come in since our house was dark, quiet and we were quite evidently bleary eyed and half asleep. Fecking prank callers I expect.

Ds getting more stroppy. I find him quite amusing at toddlers and with playdates though as he is more bossy than stroppy and has to be in a very grotty mood to be rough. Yesterday I caught him frog marching another boy who had been trying to play with the same toy as him across the room Has yet to discover "mine" but quite an expert and "no" and raising a finger in mummy fashion

LenniEd · 06/12/2008 21:41

Don't you worry Indith - am certain there will be no queue jumping. Not planning on having a baby in 2008, put it that way. Nursery still not painted, bag not packed, house a tip, DH's VAT return due at end of Dec and haven't touched accounts since October, now got visitors coming in 3 weeks and drains blocked in bathroom so all in all baby is not coming now! Plus I've got bloody piles well just the one actually, but have had it about 10 days now and its not blinking going. Bad enough having to have all and sundry looking at my bits in labour without that. So baby definitely not coming anytime soon, well not until that is fixed anyhow. Are you listening baby??

Am sure I'll wake up with heartburn and a high up bump again in the morning.

Aaaarrrghhhh! To the prank callers. Oooo, I'd have been very very very cross! Hope you get a proper nights sleep tonight.

How are you Jabber? And are you warm AoA?

LenniEd · 06/12/2008 21:44

Oh and did I mention DD's birthday... as if I need anymore reasons for this baby to stay well and truly put. Plus I haven't finished knitting his blanket...

LenniEd · 06/12/2008 21:46

Happy Birthday AQ's DS!!! Hope you've all had a lovely day

Elibean · 06/12/2008 22:48

Happy Birthday AQ's ds

Stay put, LenniEd's babe....not sure if I should be wishing that for Indith's babe or not now...?!

AnneOfAvonlea · 07/12/2008 07:14

Hope AQs DS had a lovely day

I am warm but they havent properly fixed the boiler yet .

LenniEd · 07/12/2008 07:40

I have a feeling Indith might want hers out now - not quite sure what gives me that idea

Glad you are getting sorted AoA.

DD up at 5.50, when will she learn Sunday mornings are sacred

Indith · 07/12/2008 10:58

Ooops forgot the birthday yesterday Happy birthday E

Grr Anne. Bloody plumbers.

I would very much like the baby out as it is bloody uncomfortable and I am a hormonal mess but on the other hand I just don't seem to be able to get into a relaxed enough state to think I can have it. MIL was round yesterday, again, "helping". The woman has a major need to be needed but is a weekend with no bloody family visiting too much to ask for? And they all have their ideas of when the baby will come, and BIL realy wants a certain date as he has time off work then so could come to visit etc etc etc. Well tough luck I am not spending the first week with and endless stream of visitors again they can all sod off.

Oh I'm feeling so cheerful today

Ds got up for another round of screaming last night. I have no idea what is causing it, I just know that I cannot cope at all and that it needs to stop, how the hell can I have a baby when my toddler is waking up most nights and screaming the house down for an hour or more?

Sorry, shall stop moaning at you and go clean my bathroom or something. At least I can have the house in order to have a baby in. Maybe.

Elibean · 07/12/2008 11:10

Cleaning bathrooms....feeling pissed off.... could this be re-interpreted as a) nesting and b) pre-labour hormonal changes?

Urk, Indith, the last few days are the pits. At least, with a second LO, IIRC. As for feeling relaxed and ready, I do remember being in the car en-route to hospital for my planned section with dd2, and saying crossly 'I think we've made an awful mistake, I'm far too tired to look after a baby, ogodogodogod I'm sooo tired'

Any chance you can send MIL and ds out for a nice long winter walk and clean/nap as you prefer??

Elibean · 07/12/2008 11:11

oops, MIL was yesterday, forget that then - read 'dh' for 'mil'??

jabberwocky · 07/12/2008 14:35

Hey everyone, a better day yesterday

I got a summons to jury duty Could hardly be at a worse time. I'm drafting a letter explaining the hardship re: only breadwinner and dh unable to care for kids alone Well, he can if he absolutely has to but then is sometimes in bed afterwards from exhaustion.

Happy birthday to AQ's ds!

SachaF · 07/12/2008 15:14

Hi all,
DS is asleep and DD is sleepin on my chest so I can get the laptop out, yay! Would love to be up to date but can't have laptop open when ds is about (already had to buy and fit a new keyboard, now we just have tantrums if I'm on it so we agree together that if he can't have it then no-one gets it!)
DS is still loving his little sister lots and has got calmer - not so much hitting her now (sorry, patting her) but he is still shoving his fingers or a dummy in her mouth whenever he can!
Wow at all the words all the (nearly) two year olds have got! DS doen't link any together. His favoutite word is 'poo'! A nappy is called 'poo'. A wee is called 'poo'. We can't get away with pop offs in this house as he yells out 'poo' and baby girl is often called 'poo'!
Have decided to send ds to nursery 1 day a week - too many tears in this house atm! He went for the first time last Wednesday but didn't sleep so I collected him early. We are now trying to get him used to sleeping on a mat on the floor to help with that but if he cries and kicks whenever dh or I put him down for a nap how on earth are the nursery staff ever going to get him to sleep? He still has 2.5hrs/day so does need it.
Jabber, I thought everyone was allowed to defer once without having to give good reason? Fingers crossed for you.
Indith, make sure you enjoy your babymoon - I loved mine and appreciated having that time as a family before dh went back to work. My mum didn't meet dd until she was 6 weeks and the inlaws still haven't (well, SIL was here that morning, and the next with her children, but they do live 10mins walk away and having 4 kids she totally understands not staying very long).
Right, I should be sleeping! I need more than 5 hrs a night! too many people keep telling me their babies slept through at 6,7 weeks etc!

LenniEd · 07/12/2008 16:08

Oh Indith, I'm not sure how you are managing with DS, if it is any help I know exactly how you feel with not being able to cope. It is all a bit overwhelming. I had a complete meltdown yesterday morning, tears everywhere and DH's response "I hope you aren't expecting more sympathy, I'm not a very good actor" Oooo, if I could have summoned the strength I'd have been very very cross.

Hi Sacha

castlesintheair · 07/12/2008 17:22

Indith, hate to say it but DS is probably picking up on your anxiety. He also senses (or knows) his rival is about to appear on the scene. Honestly, they are smarter than we give them credit for.

Happy birthday AQ Jr.

Hi Sacha 2nd/3rd time around is definitely harder. But it really does get easier ... when the youngest is about 2 I've just taken my 3 to a birthday party and it was a doddle. Spent the whole time drinking wine and talking to adults. Twas Bliss.

SachaF · 07/12/2008 20:51

Thanks Castles! Am looking forward to when she is 6 months and I'll start co-ercing her more strongly into sleeping through the night! It's not that long away but I also keep reminding myself to enjoy this bit! (I didn't with no.1). When we take ds to see the cousins they all play so well together, age range 7 to 18 months.

Wine...swoon....Been pregnant or breastfeeding for 2yrs and 9 months now!

Hope AQ had a lovely day too! You must be shattered but hopefully loving it too! You're going to have such a great gang that play together!

Indith / LenniEd, I found that once I had the baby I had the energy to be able to (kind of) keep up with ds! Little things like being able to bend over and get down to his level again actually made life easier even though there was a baby in tow. Not long now. Can't believe the response you got, LenniEd, you have my sympathies as I know how hard it feels atm. Rest up

accessorizequeen · 07/12/2008 21:13

Hey Sacha, glad you made it back on How old is dd now? Was she sept as well as my dt's? 5 hours an night ain't too bad, but is it consecutive - I'm betting not urgghhh! DS2 is v.v.good and mother hen with the dt's, but a bit rough at times (smothering them with a blanket etc, shoving a phone into dd's ear tonight) so the doll I got him for his birthday is going down a treat.

I'm with Sacha on the tireder when pg front too - it is immensely frustrating not being able to do anything without help or it taking an hour instead of 5 mins or just NOT being able to do it. With each pregnancy that was the absolute worst in the final weeks. Felt so cross I could scream. I have 2 babies and I would still say that's easier than the last weeks of being pregnant! Also agree with Castles re: Indith jnr, ds2 was a PITA the weeks before dt's born, same with ds1 before ds2 born. On the weekends at least, send him off with dh and have some you time so you're more relaxed. Or can you book him into nursery for an extra few hours & have a massage or something relaxing during the week - might make all the difference to you both?

How can you all remember ds2's birthday was yesterday??? I can't remotely keep track except that jabber's ds was first (that is right, isn't it?) and indith's is the youngest. Very good weekend actually, ds2 really enjoyed his pressies and got the hang of it all after the first one! The little people pirate ship going down very well with both boys, I'm hoping for hours of play from that present! The party was this afternoon, and a real success, so I am feeling quite pleased with myself. Did stay up late doing party bags for the 15 children attending (sigh) but worth it. I put whoopee bags in and they were a real hit, all the children making their parents sit on them! hee hee

LenniEd · 07/12/2008 21:32

jabberwocky 22/11 DS
Lucy5 24/11 DS
Calmriver 24/11 DD
Elibean 24/11 DD
Magnolia1 30/11 DS
castlesintheair 30/11 DD
accessorizequeen 6/12 DS
AnneofAvonlea 9/12 DD
Margosbeenplaying 12/12 DD
LaBoheme 13/12 DD
bebespain 18/12 DS
babypowder 20/12 DD
SachaF 25/12 DS
Olihan 28/12 DS
LenniEd 28/12 DD
Gloria42 29/12 DS
Devongirl 30/12 DS
spina 1/1 DS
Weirdbird 3/1 DD
Indith 11/1 DS

Here you go AQ

AoA's DD2 next on Tuesday.

Glad you had a fab weekend with DS, and you sound like things are levelling out in the household, gives me hope. If you can manage 4 with grace, surely I can manage 2 with a scrap of dignity

Well I've given up on sleep - yet more contractions all night last night and started again now. Just identical to the pre-labour ones I had with DD - they went on for a week with her, so not too concerned really. Baby will either arrive at 36 wks which isn't so bad or it will all amount to nothing and I'll still be pg in a month. Its not the pain that makes me not sleep, its the not knowing.