June 2008: weaning with every flavour baby rice . . . . and loving it!

[spongebrainbigpants]

new home!

ooh! I want a cream tea too - I might run to the shops so I can have one tomorrow afternoon (by myself at home, how sad! but I've a magazine I want to read).

Amberc - we're hourly waking right now too because Fraser has a cold. When I know he's healthy I'll let him cry it out if he's still up but right now I'm just holding on by the skin of my teeth...

PP thanks I am starting to get hopeful about this offer!

Neenz love your comment about giving birth in a hospital next time to get a break on the thread Amber linked!

06/05/08 - NEENZTWINZ - Theo and Esther
18/05/08 - PUREE&PEARLS - Cecily Jean Olivia
24/05/08 - KATYJO - Mia , ds 2.5 years
30/05/08 - PAROFLEURMAPU - Fleur
07/06/08 - ABERDEENHIKER - Fraser, ds1 Duncan 25/06/06
11/06/08 - SYBILVIMES - James Dominic, ds1 7yrs and dd 5yrs
11/06/08 - NEEDAHAND - SJ, Eleanor 3 yrs
15/06/08 - AMBRERC - Luke Joseph
15/06/08 - SPONGEBRAINPANTS - Alexander
15/-6/08 - ROLF - Theodora, DS1 (8), DS2 (7), DD1 (3)
16/06/08 - ESSIE3 - Iestyn Seiriol,
17/06/08 - ALIPALLI - Peter Bryce
17/06/08 - DEBINAUSTRIA - Ethan, Stefan 30/03/00 Tristan 20/02/02
18/06/08 - Josie57 - Emma Caitlin, ds1 Oliver 26/08/06
19/06/08 - 5GOMAD - Sebastian Wilfrid Joseph, - Edith Eleanor Mary 21/1/06 nearly 3
23/06/08 - LIBRALADY - Luke Thomas Jacob Griffiths, Samuel William Ronald Griffiths 08/04/04
23/06/08 - THEPENGUINPROJECT - Ryder Henry
24/06/08 - HEDGEHOG979 - Isaac John
28/06/08 - UPSIDEDOWNCAKE - Dorothy Wijnanda Ann, CHRISTIAN RICHARD 20/11/05
02/07/08 - ALLNEW - Alexander
02/07/08 - FUNGLE - Isla Rose. Beth 24/09/03
06/07/08 - BITOFADRAMAQUEEN - Struan

Adding myself to the list!

BDQ- babypearls dropped her df a couple of weeks ago and now sleeps from 7-7 which means she has only 4 feeds per day. Actually dropping one meant she filled up on the others but she now has anything from 18-28 fl.oz per day, depending on how much babygoo she has/how tired she is etc.

Re- dummy. Babypearls has had one since birth as she is very 'sucky' but has gradually lessened her dependence on it. When I was getting up three or four times a night to shove it back in and taking several to bed so I didn't have to fish around under the cot in the dark for the missing one, I decided enough was enough. I gave her the dummy until she wa\s almost asleep at 7pm, then removed it before putting her in bed. he screamed blue-murder, but I did controlled crying- went in after 5, then 10, then 15 then 20 mins to settle her. It took two hours the first night, one hour the second and half an hour the third night. Now she doesn't have her dummy to sleep at night, though if she stirs in the night (inherited family history of nightmares) and won't settle, I'll give it to her to go back to sleep. She still has her dummy for daytime sleeps but as they will gradually disappear, then so will the dummy. I do also carry one with me for places such as trains, libraries and weddings, but have introduced Winston (bear) to her nap routine and plan on substituting him for the dummy at some point.

If any of that is useful, great. And to the rest of you, sorry for the long post x

06/05/08 - NEENZTWINZ - Theo and Esther
18/05/08 - PUREE&PEARLS - Cecily Jean Olivia
24/05/08 - KATYJO - Mia , ds 2.5 years
30/05/08 - PAROFLEURMAPU - Fleur
07/06/08 - ABERDEENHIKER - Fraser, ds1 Duncan 25/06/06
11/06/08 - SYBILVIMES - James Dominic, ds1 7yrs and dd 5yrs
11/06/08 - NEEDAHAND - SJ, Eleanor 3 yrs
15/06/08 - AMBRERC - Luke Joseph
15/06/08 - SPONGEBRAINPANTS - Alexander
15/-6/08 - ROLF - Theodora, DS1 (8), DS2 (7), DD1 (3)
16/06/08 - ESSIE3 - Iestyn Seiriol,
17/06/08 - ALIPALLI - Peter Bryce
17/06/08 - DEBINAUSTRIA - Ethan, Stefan 30/03/00 Tristan 20/02/02
18/06/08 - Josie57 - Emma Caitlin, ds1 Oliver 26/08/06
19/06/08 - 5GOMAD - Sebastian Wilfrid Joseph, - Edith Eleanor Mary 21/1/06 nearly 3
23/06/08 - LIBRALADY - Luke Thomas Jacob Griffiths, Samuel William Ronald Griffiths 08/04/04
23/06/08 - THEPENGUINPROJECT - Ryder Henry
24/06/08 - HEDGEHOG979 - Isaac John
26/06/08 - POPPY34 - Edith Irene Paris
28/06/08 - UPSIDEDOWNCAKE - Dorothy Wijnanda Ann, CHRISTIAN RICHARD 20/11/05
02/07/08 - ALLNEW - Alexander
02/07/08 - FUNGLE - Isla Rose. Beth 24/09/03
06/07/08 - BITOFADRAMAQUEEN - Struan

added myself in... also getting excited as I notice that I'm a celebrity starts next week... sad really.

Amber- hope Sophie is helpful! Babypearls always had to sleep on her side too, though now if she rolls onto her back during the night it doesn't bother her. I found the side very useful for wedging a dummy in (I did mention I'm a bad parent, right?)I used her blankie- a flannelette comforter -under the knob of the dummy to keep it in her mouth and positioned her sort-of in the recovery position so she couldn't roll. What happens if you just leave Luke to play at 5am? Just wondering if you left him to get used to the fact that you won't go in and get him before sensible-o'clock he might either a) learn to play quietly, or b) go back to sleep. Easy for me to say, I know x

can second what puree says re leaving him.. quite a few times I can leave edie playing (have a couple of toys that are for cot only and a muslin tied tightly to bars) and she is fine... it seems to work esp if she wakes at 5 or so in teh morning (ie that little bit earlier than normal)

just found a thread that is potentially as vicious as weaning... and I t hought it all got easier

Poppy - I agree that ironically late at night is when you are at your lowest and therefore least able to implement a sleep regime of some sort. That's why I thought I'd start on the daytime naps, but R has already had two today, one after 2 mins of grizzling he just conked out face down on the bed and the second was whilst feeding.....wish he'd go to sleep now rather than screaming the house down.

Deb - No butter on a scone? That's a figting matter in our house (DH agrees with you, I most definitely do not!).

What thread is that Poppy? Should we go start a ruck ladies? Look at me all feisty today.

the one about someone complaining about going back to work for 4 days a month...

but the one about gifted and talented I can see has future capacity to annoy...

Have just typed reasonably long post and it didn't post. Grrr. It went a little something like this...

Thanks to P&P and everyone who has put up with me wittering on about df. We're going to bite the bullet after all and see how S does without it tonight. P&P had babypearls started weaning when you dropped the df?

It was me who linked to the learn & groove station, the microphone has started to upset S though - I don't think it's behaving the way he wants it too

Amber I also leave S to his own devices in the early morning. He's got this cot book which keeps him entertained until we go and get him.

Poopy I can't find the vicious thread, can you link for me? I love reading the vicious ones!!!

Last, but not least, today's question is about poo's. S has done 4 poos today (he's normally a one or two a day boy) and they've been a bit bright coloured and lumpy. Is it normal?

g43 - I have one of the Leapfrog activity stations too - got it for £28 off ebay . They love it, would def recommend it - very pricey at full price tho!

Tea went very badly tonight. Gave them cod, sweet potato and courgette and they just were not interested, even theo who usually eats everything. they had cod last night so don;t know why not tonight (maybe too much cod - it was a bit fishy!) So then I made them lentils and sweet pot and they wouldnt eat that either! So then I went back to plain baby rice and they had quite a bit of that so hopefully it is enough to get them to sleep. The amount they eat doesn't seem to impact on how well they sleep anyway so they'll prob sleep 7-7 now.

If you are mentioning other threads then you have to post a link!! Am going in search of some rucks now...

Amber, really sorry to hear abour your nights. No advice I'm afraid, Alex woke twice last night and I'm at a loss - he has taken EIGHT bottles of eight ozs today (1am, 4am, 8am, 10am, 12.30pm, 3pm, 5pm, 7pm). Joy!

Neenz, I'm an atheist and a Darwinist but would never get involved in an argument about religion on AIBU! I'll never change your mind and you'll never change mine! But I'll enjoy reading it - should be entertaining!!

Hi to everyone else x

Neenz, x-posted!

Interested in what you say about the amount the DTs eat not affecting their sleep as I'm coming under increasing pressure to wean cos of A's night feeds, but if it makes no difference don't think I'll bother!

BDQ, did you mean to call poppy, poopy or is all this talk of poo affecting your typing?!!

poppy, KWYM about the G&T threads - as a teacher I know what a controversial subject it can be and how every parent wants to believe their child is G&T!

I taught for six years and I only encountered two genuine G&T children - all this crap about the top 10% of every school being G&T is such a load of rubbish, but I won't be posting that on the G&T thread!

Sponge, how old is he? who is putting pressure on you to wean? If you don't mind getting up in the night to do his feeds then continue. Before I started to wean they were cluster feeding all evening and that has stopped now ()still wake a few times in eve but it was ridiculous before). Don't know if it is the food or the routine that has helped them be more settled but I think they are more settled now. Unfortunately they don;t sleep 7-7 and the number of times they wake seems to have no relation to what they eat. I think they prob just eat enough to get full. Maybe on the days when they don't eat so much they have more milk (I dont know cos still BFing) so maybe they have as much altogether I just don't know! I am finding weaning a whole lot harder than BFing!!

Neenz, thank you for your honesty about weaning - it's really helpful.

Alex is 21 wks +2, slept through from 5 wks, picked up night feed at approx 3am at 19 wks and last night picked up two! 1am and 4am. Tbf, it might just have been a one off . Alot of my RL friends are pressuring me, and I mentioned it at yoga today and was told that all the new guidelines are rubbish and I should just feed him!

Quite a few of my RL acquaintances with babies weaned from 17wks, which is entirely their prerogative, but they are starting to make me feel guilty for not weaning him, like I'm starving him or something.

I'm really really tired today, and have a horrendous period, and have hardly seen dh for days cos of work, and have had a gutful of his mum, and am just feeling very crap, so this post is probably coming across as rambling nonsense. Right, starting to make myself upset just typing this, so going to make myself some food!

Thanks for listening!

sponge glad you say that re G&T -does seem bit ott?.. and fwiw I'm having a nightmare trying to wean edie - she cries in highchair, doesnt seem to like puree. may can it for a few weeks (and a few of my mates have same experience as you - doesn't seem to make any difference on night feeds).

neenz for I think itw as you .. what is it about development at 19/20 weeks? edie being much more alert (only thing I can describe it as) -wanting to play at night, super nosey all day, notices me/dh as opposed to oterhs (has started crying if we're out the room at other people) - basically she is acting very wired and it can be quite hard to settle her at times (going back to the old methods of cuddling having broken away from that ). waht was your experience with the twins/your book?

right for those of you who enjoy a punch up here are some of the threads I meant ...

aibu 1 where neenz shows she is far more diplomatic than me

{[http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/gifted_and_talented/645242-Instead-of-starting-threads-taking-th e-piss-out-of-G G&T]]

rare outbreak of agreement on aibu

and not so much a fight but very amusing

and sponge agree with neenz - you are not starving him (milk has lots of goodies in it ) -the way things are going I'm likely to can it again for a few weeks

BDQ- babypearls was weaning before she started dropping the df.

Sponge- don't be pressured into anything (don't they tell you that in sex ed?)Have you tried the hungry baby formula?

Amber- have you tried Hipp good night formula...it has some baby rice in it. Was just wondering if it was worth a try to get Luke to sleep a bit longer. Enjoy your night off.

Neenz- I havde given up trying interesting things at tea-time. Babypearls is usually cranky and tired so stick to simple easy stuff like bananas, avocados, rusks etc. Very impressed with your repertoire too- cod and lentils. I run a strictly take-it-or-leave-it household

Neenz, Alex is only 2 days older than Ethan and I'm not starting weaning yet.stop worrying

Had a quick look at all your posts liking all the feisty talk about other threads!!

Fleur has had another runny nappy today thats 3 days on a trot, not all the nappies are runny, she has been irritable and chomping on her hands etc she has also been feeding less and pulling on left ear when drinking bottle. These are all signs for teething no? Or should i take her to drs? she is still very happy and chirpy

Sponge agree with neenz weaning is alot harder!! Still fleur is alot more settled too (when she is not teething and up half the night!!) but evenings are a lot calmer but it does nothing for sleeping through!!!
Sponge dont feel pressured, i had some rl friends that kept saying at 16/17 wks oh just start her on solids its much easier but i waited til i personally felt fleur was ready, i dont beleive the guidelines as all babies are different but i do believe 100% in mothers instinct

Sounds like teething Paro

And we are not weaning here either, we did DD at 20 weeks but she was ready for it, DS isn't but has really settled down now since change of Formula and has dropped a feed so weirdly drinking less but sleeping more.

Sorry Poppy at poopy!

Thanks 5gomad Just checking as didnt know bout ear pulling thing, but as she is happy and no real fever or anything major i presumed so too Ill see how she goes and if it goes onn and on or gets worse will ahve her checked out

Poppy, the book is called The Wonder Weeks (think it was G43 or Aberdeen who recommended it!), and yes there is a developmental leap at 19 weeks. It says they start to see 'events' eg a ball bouncing, putting your hand in their mouth, watching your mouth move as you speak. It is an interesting book but I barely get time to read it never mind do all the things it recommends to help your baby through the 'leaps'! (I am playing the twins card there!)

Sponge, IMO the guidelines are not rubbish but they are erring on the safe side. As I understand it, there are small holes in the gut which close up some time between 17 and 26 weeks and when they close your baby is reaady for food. If food is given before they close this can lead to allergies. But no one knows when they close in any individual baby cos you can't see inside your baby! FWIW if your LO was my baby I prob would wean now if he is waking twice in the night. But that is just me, if you don't mind getting up twice in the night and you want to be absolutely sure you don't put him in any danger then just continue to give milk. It is hard when people are putting pressure on you so just try not to talk about it to other people.

Poppy, that pirate sex thread is hilarious!