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June 2008: weaning with every flavour baby rice . . . . and loving it!

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spongebrainbigpants · 07/11/2008 23:09

new home!

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poppy34 · 25/11/2008 20:52

amberc my gina ford book (loaned to me by a mate) is currently propping up my wine glass - may I recommend that you do the same with it?

Parofleurmapu · 25/11/2008 21:06

Meant to say I can understand the waiting bit thats fine but its the fact that BLW advocates or however you want to call them mostly insist that if there is no pincer grip or that they dont pick up food and put in mouths then they are not ready to wean.

Amber - Fleur currently has her tea at 5pm cause dP doesn't get in from work til 7pm which is fleurs bedtime so dinner if after then for us but too late for her at mo , so she just has bottle at 7.30pm

And re guidance books, mine are a good place to put teacup by bed!!

BDQ have got email thanks Ill buy them soon and then find out postage and let you know I have paypal account too so thats great.

Essie Do you still want some?

Neenztwinz · 25/11/2008 21:10

8pm bedtime is not unusual I don't think Amber. Gina can do that to a person! I don;t have her weaning book tho.

Poppy, my two were on two good meals a day quite quickly after starting and then three meals within a few weeks. I don;t believe that they won't eat unles you start early enough. Makes no sense at all!

Neenztwinz · 25/11/2008 21:19

LOVED that police book link BTW! Hilarious My DH has forwarded it to all his lawyer friends

bitofadramaqueen · 25/11/2008 22:12

Cheers Paro. Glad its not just me who has a late tea. When I go back to work there's no way that me and DH will get home in time to cook S a 'dinner' before a reasonable bedtime. S currently goes down between 6.30pm and 7pm - Once he's in nursery we'll need to try and stretch it a bit.

Someone lent me the Gina Ford weaning book, but it predates the 6 month weaning guide. I'd be interested in what she says about weaning pre-6 months, and what routine she suggests for 6-7 months when weaning starts at 6 months (if anyone has the energy to give me a quick summary [please emoticon] ). If I buy one more baby book DH will divorce me!

debinaustria · 25/11/2008 22:25

BDQ - as a mum to 3 I also wonder how anything gets done, ....bare minimum springs to mind.This was today - boys off to school, sort out Ethan, washing on, dinner prepared, try to get some bookings by sending out about 30 e-mails whilst E slept, boys home, lunch, boys homework, took Tristan to speech therapy, fed E in the back of the car in Lidl car park, went food shopping, drove home , attempted one road and slid back down again in the snow, reversed back and came another way, unpacked shopping, helped Stefan revising for numerous tests this week, had tea, played with Tristan, played with Ethan, boys bedtime - all in bed, phew,sorted out washing, Christmas shopping online, tv with dh for an hour and now MN before bed.

What I'm saying is that you do cope, when I just had Stefan I never thought I'd cope with another but you do!!

Tomorrow I'm planning to wake Ethan when boys get up for school so that he'll have 2 hours sleep in the morning whilst they're still out and I can decorate with dh. Wish me luck!!

alipalli · 25/11/2008 22:59

Deb, all I can say is gosh, that is quite a day.

Paro, forgot to say that I was in Zermatt when I was in the Alps.

Nothing else to say, just had a tricky evening with Peter ending in a dose of Calpol and jogging him round to a Beloved track that he liked in the summer. Seemed to soothe him as he went to sleep instantly.

Night all

debinaustria · 26/11/2008 06:05

Alli - hope Peter had a good night.

ThePenguinProject · 26/11/2008 08:56

OMG - Poonami alert, poo somehow reached the back of Ryder's arms, how!!!???

Waiting for British Gas man - yawn.

debinaustria · 26/11/2008 09:20

lol PP, sounds like you're hoping the British gas man will help out with the poonami!!

bitofadramaqueen · 26/11/2008 09:25

Good luck Deb. You achieve so much in one day!

Neenztwinz · 26/11/2008 09:26

LOL at arm poo PP!

Alli, I have found that the Spice Girls always send Esther to sleep if she is restless in the car. Haven't tried it at home yet (don't really want her to be dependent on music to get to sleep)

BDQ, Gina Ford says all the 'right' things re. weaning before 6mths ie. the DoH recommend no food before 6mths and if you are going to do it, do it only on advice of HP. I onyl have the twins book but the assume it is much the same routine. For 6-9mths she says...

7am up, milk feed followed by breakfast of cereal or fruit and baby rice
9-9.30 nap of 30-45 mins
10am up and playing on play mat
11am half their milk, then their lunch then remainder of milk
12-12.30 nap of no longer than 2 hrs (my fave part of the day!!)
2.30 up, full milk feed
5pm tea
6pm bath then milk feed
7pm bed.

Hope that helps!

bitofadramaqueen · 26/11/2008 09:32

Cheers Neenz. I really wish S would do the 2 hour nap thing - I'm lucky if he does an hour if we're at home. I think he's done it once. I've tried bringing his 11am nap forward but he's just not hungry enough. .

Does the book still suggest starting out with first taste purees etc before building up to meals? I'm assuming she just suggests racing through the first tastes stage to get to stage 2 quickly?

Right off to try and get S to take a nap. Bad Gina baby - still awake at 9.34

hedgehog1979 · 26/11/2008 09:41

Morning all,

I have given up trying to catch up as Isaac is definitely teething. We have had full on screaming, refusing to settle at all, waking up every 2 hours during the night, and I have resorted to bringing him into bed with us just to get some proper sleep. But on the upside I have mastered feeding lying down (has only taken me 5 months).

I am now getting the advice from my NCT group that if I had started weaning the teething would not be so bad (Can anyone explain this too me?)

I do have to praise Ashton and Parsons teething powders as it means I don't have to remember to carry around bonjela.

Sorry I haven't spoken to anyone personally, but I have just realised I missed my dentist appointment yesterday as well - oh well these things happen?

Neenztwinz · 26/11/2008 09:53

Mine never had the two hour sleep either till they started on solids. So you may get it soon!

Gina says start giving baby rice with milk at 11am feed, just 1-2tsp till they learn how to get it to the back of their mouths and swallow. Once they can do that give the rice after 6pm feed instead (what 6pm feed? Does she mean 5pm feed? Who knows). Then start with pureed pear at 11 am feed, then work through the fruit and veg one day at a time. Make sure they are taking quite a bit of veg before introducing protein as it can strain the kidneys. She says work thru the groups quickly. Increase the baby rice by 1tsp every couple of days and the amount of savoury at lunch by one cube every couple of days. Decrease milk feeds to four a day once solids are established. Between 6-7mths they should be having 2-3 servings carbs (cereal, bread, pasta, potatoes), 3 veg/fruit servings and one protein serving. First foods: baby rice, pear, apple, carrot, sweet pot, pot, green beans, courgettes. Then parsnips, mango, peaches, brocolli, avocadoes, peas and cauli. Introduce protein (chicken, fish, meat, lentils) by seventh month. Start with protein at lunch cos harder to digest.

Routine by end of 6mth:
7am milk feed (7-8oz) then breakfast of 2-4tsp oat cereal with milk and 1-2 cubes fruit
11.30 3-4oz milk then lunch of 4-6 cubes veg plus some protein,
2.30 milk feed (5-7oz if ff)
5pm tea of 5-6 tsp baby rice with milk, 2 cubes fruit heading towards proper savoury tea then drink of water from beaker.
6.30 milk feed 6-8oz

My babies eat loads more than this!! They had two whole pears and 4tsp baby rice for breakfast.

alipalli · 26/11/2008 10:36

BDQ I have a variant on the CLB book which I got mainly to find out what physical and mentally is changing each month. Under month 6 Gina talks about weaning. I think Neenz has done a better job of breaking down the details of what Gina suggests than I could do. However my impression was that she says 6 months because she has to (or else get in a load of trouble), and then labours the point about having to rush the introduction of new foods because of starting weaning so late. As you all know we aren't a routine household here, largely because Peter is immensely strong willed and I would have given myself a nervous breakdown trying to push him into a routine (and I would have lost), so I now find the GF books bizarre as they are so far removed from what my baby is actually like.

Neenz LOL at not wanting Esther to be dependent on music. I am happy to use whatever it takes to get Peter to sleep: music, movement, feeding, walking etc. I really wish that I hadn't spent the first month or two beating myself up about this and worrying about bad habits in the future. My life saver was when stumbled across a Sears Book on Fussy Babies which describes Peter to a tee: '"High-need" babies crave touch and motion, can't self-soothe, have difficulty sleeping, nurse often and well into their toddler years and are intense, draining and demanding"'

Okay night here last night. Peter woke at 1.40 and 5.40, which is manageable, but not ideal.

Essie3 · 26/11/2008 10:50

Ali snap again! Do you swap Iestyn for Peter when we go to bed? Or do you have a webcam and report Iestyn's sleeping?

Feeling better today. Gum is better - I have been willing it to go, and have taken last penicillin tablet. So it's trouble if it returns, but positive thinking!

My back is also much better, feels stiff rather than painful. I'm being careful though because Tim left at 7 this morning so I'm alone now and Iestyn, despite being one of the lightest babies on this thread, isn't great to lug around with a sore back. And he's not one for playing by himself yet!

Neenz and BDQ the 2 hour nap fills me with wonderment - and envy! I get half an hour max at any time during the day. But maybe solids will change things.

Just an anecdote on weaning - PP had a go with some BLW with Iestyn yesterday. He was on her knee, and watching the bread fingers like a hungry dog. So she gave him a piece, which he put in his mouth. Ready to wean? Not necessarily; he puts anything which is in his hand in his mouth - bread, plastic, metal, flesh, fabric. Plus, with the bread finger in his mouth (sucking gently), he watched the next one being picked up by PP, and the one after that. So not watching food per se, but watching anything in PP's hand? Movement close to him?

poppy34 · 26/11/2008 10:54

quick post to mark my place - can I just say deb you are a real inspiration..was wondering how you cope with two ut you very sensibly point out you just adapt.

ok naive quesiton but edie really unsettled/whingy , jackson pollock type nappies -this is teething right? And also big vote for ashtons powders - they defo make things easier

alipalli · 26/11/2008 10:59

essie: they are like twins the movie with danny DeVito and Arnold swzarzenegger. How disturbing.

Hedgehog doesn't sound like much fun at the moment. Yes I would be interested to know how weaning will help teething. Maybe if they had something hard to knaw on??

Neenz bit worried in case previous post sounded stroppy, please don't take offence.

ThePenguinProject · 26/11/2008 11:49

Deb - I would have loved the British Gas man to change R's nappy! And as I've just paid £262 for three radiator knobs, I think throwing in a free nappy change would not be unreasonable...

BDQ - 9.34am and still awake? Gina would be so disappointed. Isn't 9.34 "Mum shoud have one biscuit" time?

Neenz - LOL at Spice Girls. I have an image of Esther rolling her eyes and saying "Girl power is so yesterday" then falling asleep in contempt. Is Theo more of a Take That fan?

AliP - Love the description of Peter and Iestyn as twins.

Poppy - Mad nappies can be teething as can nappy rash. However, and I can't believe I'm asking foe this level of detail, what do you mean by Pollock style nappies? The lumpy paint never dries in R's. No artistic masterpieces here.

Essie - Glad you're feeling better.

HH - Hope you get some sleep.

Oh no, R needs another nappy change. After this morning, I fear what I may find!

libralady · 26/11/2008 11:50

Hello all,

Sorry its been such a long time but really I just keep up with you all.

Just want your opinions please ladies.

I am really pissed off and I mean REALLY.

Been to Asdas this morning to start getting bits in for Luke's christening and becasue DS1 was so good (and I was running short on time) we stopped at our local McDonalds on the way home so he could have something cooked to save me time when I got home (yes I know I'm now on MN .
Anyhow, I left DS1 with Luke whilst I went to order for him. DS1 decided to climb on the seat and window ledge and the 'spotty youth' serving commented on it and I swiftly sorted out the problem. The the 'spotty youth' asked me if he was my GRANDSON!!!!!!
Well I was completely taken aback and said NO he's my son! Now I know at 39 it is possible for me to have grand children but I didn't think I looked that OLD and I'm afraid my confidence has taken a huge dent and I'm now sat here in tears. What made matters worse was that his colleagues all thought it was a big joke as well.
Do you think I should make an official complaint?

spongebrainbigpants · 26/11/2008 11:57

Well, I had a fab night! 11pm, 12.30am, 1am, 1.30am, 2.30am, 3am, 3.30am. Eventually brought him into bed with us at 4.30pm, dh had to get up at 5am to fly to Paris for a work meeting and won't be home til midnight tonight!

Think he has caught my cold unfortunately so off out to buy baby cold stuff now.

Essie, good to hear tooth is feeling better.

Hi to everyone else.

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spongebrainbigpants · 26/11/2008 11:59

LL, x-posted sorry. I'm so on your behalf - what a cheeky little b*stard!

I would complain certainly - but then I'm a bolshy cow!

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goingfor3 · 26/11/2008 12:11

That's really crappy LL. Complaining will only prolong the agony so probably not worth it.

ThePenguinProject · 26/11/2008 12:16

LL - I'd have nutted him. Please don't take any notice of soneone that can only get a mcjob.

Actually be fair, his Gran may be 39....in Hastings there are Grans aged 30.

Sponge - You are in amazibgly good spirits considering your night. Has it just all gone delirious now?

I am so sick of being wee-ed on. It is now a daily occurance - and yet I still haven't learned to cover R's willy when I change him! Doh.