Three spikes and they're out. Whose teeth will be next?

[Essie3]

Seeing as it's a quiet time...

Sponge - it is atrocious here, can't believe it is nice elsewhere.

5GM - sorry to hear about your trip to a&e, hope you're ok.

5Gomad - sounds scary, hope you find out what that was all about.

Pretty bad night for me last night, Esther very unsettled, woke at 3am and 6.45am and then had rash on her chin this morning. Feared that I'd given her food allergy but sis says more likely teething. Hope it is not allergy, she didn;t have anything yesterday that she'd not had before but apparently they can have secondary reaction. Banana can be a culprit and she had that yesterday so will lay off that for a while and try it again in a few weeks.

Thought maybe she had woken up cos she was hungry - maybe I'd given her too much food yesterday and she didn;t drink enough milk? This weaning business is hard!

Allergies don't happen usually the first time that you eat something, your body just says one day don't like that anymore, begone, but good idea laying off.

Thought I should pop into say hi, not been on for ages, things not been too good here.

I lost the plot almost like a break down I just exploded, now being treated for PND though feel ok again after the initial firework display.

Olivia has stopped gaining weight reflux is hellish she is blowing tubes out everyday and is suffereing severe colic so screams the house down for several hours a night. She is being refered now for a gastostromy(sp) we have just started weaning advised by HV and SALT which is going really well she loves her solids.

Apart from that she is doing ok movement is quiet good, though very delayed in terms of what she should be doing, doctor said that she has stopped taking spasams when she moves her legs which is something.

Anyway thats about it from me.X

Josey - lovely to hear from you again, I posted a message to you the other day in case you were lurking. I think the breakdown/PND was inevitable - you had been so strong for so long. Probably did you good.Pleased to hear that Olivia is loving her solids and her leg movements are better. Colic and reflux sound scary. Sending you hugs.

Sophie - are you feeling better now after your trip to A+E? At least they ruled out ectopic pg, do you go back to the Drs on Monday?

Neenz - sounds like it could be a teething rash to me too.

Room's painted, floor is laid, guests are in so we can relax a little for a week. Then they leave and we do the next room! Now I can tackle the disaster which is the washroom. Since getting back from UK I have washed but only done minimal ironing and no clothes have been put away - it is a nightmare. Also want to do some Christmas shopping before snow starts.

Anyone doing anything exciting on Sunday?

Those of you struggling with babies waking when before they were sleeping through - this makes interesting reading.

Ethan is much more distracted when feeding in the day and quite often will ping off to look at his brothers or dh or the tv or gaze at me - I have to admit I love it when he looks at me like that!

5gomad, you poor thing - hope they get to the bottom of it soon .

Football is on 8th November - we're just preparing Alex by getting him used to his ear defenders!

Rolf, how's your splodgy girl?! Made me smile cos Splodge was our nickname for Alex when he was inside me. Haven't thought about that for some time - made me feel v nostalgic .

whinegums, we were walking along the Thames in blazing sunshine this afternoon. By the time we turned back it was windy and raining (4pm) and I think it's due to get worse tomorrow.

Neenz, doesn't sound like a food allergy to me. Hope she has a better night tonight.

josey, lovely to hear from you, so sorry to hear you've been having a hard time . Think of you often, good to hear that Olivia is making small steps still, although the reflux must be v stressful for you all.

deb, sounds like you've got a busy day tomorrow - tbh, would kill for a day at home tomorrow but we're off to see friends again. Can't complain but I'm knackered!

Btw, started using my cloth nappies today - already love them, but have so many questions to ask about them!

Will be hanging around the nappy thread alot I think!

Josey thanks for dropping by to say hello and update us. Really sorry to hear that you are feeling low. I hope that you are able to feel brighter soon. Hugs for Olivia too.

Tried out my new sling properly today. It was really good even though I didn't tie it quite right and Peter ended up being a bit low. He was happy enough though and went to sleep. It just meant that his legs were in the way of my legs so I could only take very small steps going up hills .

Better feed Peter and go to bed I think. He went to sleep relatively early (for him) this evening so we have been able to have a nice evening playing Singstar on the Playstation, which we haven't done for a very long time. It's good to do something together that has nothing to do we Peter for an hour or two.

Currently debating whether to get some reusable nappies off freecycle, which includes the nappy bin etc. Nothing to lose except I could end up with a bag of old stained yucky nappies . What do you think? DH still a sceptic about the whole thing.

I have also forgotten to let Peter know about the clocks changing tonight, so am anticipating having to start tomorrow at stupid o'clock... night all.

Hi Josey - so sorry you've been so low. The reflux sounds distressing and exhausting, hope it improves.

Deb - interesting article. It makes a lot of sense. I'd noticed that DD2 wasn't feeding so well during the day.

Sponge - DD1 is still a bit splodgy so I've postponed the passport photos until next week!

DH and I went into the sitting room last night to watch some TV and noticed that DD1 had lined up some of her dolls in front of it. I picked them up and underneath one of them found A BIG POO . It was so utterly disgusting. She had been wearing pull-ups yesterday with tights on top so I'm not really sure how on earth (or when) it happened. I hate potty training and am either incredibly bad at it or have children who are very slow to get the hang of it. I really hope it was a one-off. She's never done anything like that before.

Oh Rolf = you give the 1st timers on here such an insight into what's to come - lol
What a lovely present - maybe the doll is potty training too! I also hate potty training and left my boys until 3 after a hopeless attempt at 2.5 with ds1, it was much quicker and less painful at age 3.

Morning all, gosh Rolf you were on here early or late depends on how you see it!! Oops re poo!!

Firstly thanks all for comments on photos and on me!! Having been talking with Dp and mum and think its prob combination of having a baby!! lack of sleep,I came of cerazzette pill cause it was making me irritable and ive more or less stopped BF (only 1 or 2 feeds now) so my hormones are prob all over the place

5 go mad - Hope you are ok now, its my scar tissue thats causing me so much grief

neenz you asked bout routines and sleeping through. Well Fleur was sleeping til 6am until she had a cold we have now made it the last 2 days til 4am so getting better. Our routine is

7am BF (really small amount) get up and dressed
8am Breakfast FF and fruit or cereal
9am - Nap for about 1/1 1/2 hour
11am FF
1,30pm/2pm FF Lunch
4.30 FF or BF
7pm Bath and massage
7,30pm FF
8pm asleep!!
11pm Dream FF

Thats it really dont know if you or anyone can see anything that might help the only thing im trying is to extend feeds so they are every 4 hrs but she isnt having it at

Fleur doesnt like banana either and re milk i feed first until she nearly doesnt want more and then offer solids, sometimes she has loads of puree sometimes not

Hello Josey Glad you are getting help hugs to you and Olivia

Debs out of all housework i find clothes putting away the hardest, nothing exciting here for today its windy and rainy. Interesting article its not only BF babies though Fleur is awful on bottle at mo

Ali nice to hear you had a nice evening and id get the nappies you never know they might be excellent if they are not you can always bin them, id boil wash them first though!!

Just realised ive got fleur for breakfast at 7am not 8am cause of clocks shes asleep now maybe ill make her sleep longer to get back into routine!!! Right of to sleep too

alipalli, the image of you shuffling up hill with Peter in his sling did make me smile!

As for the nappies, have you tried ebay? They are all unused ones so maybe in better condition, although you'd obviously have to pay for them. Although if you do get them from freecycle you can always ditch them if they're minging!

Rolf, yuck at the poo! Deb, interesting what you said about waiting til 3 - that's exactly what I intend to do with Alex (hence switching to reuseables!) but it's good to be backed up by a voice of experience!

Paro, hormones have a lot to answer for .

Hi All!

Rolf LOL at the poo, I am potty training at the mo, started 2 weeks ago. Ds seemed to catch on pretty quick to the wees but the poos are a nightmare! Mostly he just does them in his pants, but I've had a couple on the floor hopefully I haven't missed any. We should start a potty training sympathy thread titled 'Help my children will start school in nappies'

Josey I am so glad you are sorting out the PND. You are amazing, I would be a crumpled mess if I was having to do everything you do. Unfortunately I think debs is right and PND was inevitable after all you have been through.

Neenz It sounds like a teething rash to me, you've been reading too many weaning threads! Remember a few years ago everyone was told to wean at 12 weeks, the guidelines have been changing regularly since then. You have certainly done the right thing, your dts sound like they are enjoying their solids and putting on weight, that should be proof enough that they needed solids!

I was out last night, so feeling a bit rough. Dh is away on a stag do, so I was hoping the dcs would sleep a bit longer, no such luck! Maybe they'll go to bed early instead...wishful thinking I think!

SHE IS 3! I am extremely laissez faire about potty training (no surprises there!) - the boys were well gone 3 when they were in undies. When I asked her about it this morning she started giggling and said "Stripey Baby did a poo and I cleaned her up" so I guess it was some sort of role play . I also discovered this morning that she had taken off her pull-up after she'd gone to bed and put on 3 pairs of the boys' swimming trunks - and was dry.

Sorry everyone, I know this is a baby thread and don't want to spoil the magic...Will stop now.

rolf lol at your dd story (although am blanking my mind to the vision of the future it offers )

5gomad how are you feeling today? sounds horrible adn scary -and grrr re long wait in casualty...

neenzthink I posted other day re sleeping through - can't really say what difference is with edie when she does/doesnt except we did put her in seperate room quite early which means that have managed to seperate out the times she wakes has a little moan/play and settles back down with those times (like when she has a cold) where she genuinely has need of me .

Haven't been near weaning thread but have started offering her little baby rice/puree - she is only playing wiht it but defo interested - so going to carry on for now but given amount she actually takes in I'd hardly call it weaning as much as try before you buy type experience . And couldn't agree more with your comments neenz re some of folk on the weaning thread - scary...

josey so sorry to hear what you've been through...
deb that article makes complete sesne -have been having a nightmare with edie as has been so distracted (having torn my hair -which is falling out anyway -anyone else got this issue ) -tried diff teats, holds etc and nothing worked til tried to get her in position where least distracted.

Hey Rolf, don't worry about it, you aren't spoiling the baby thread. Your posts make me laugh, you write them really well. It is also good to remind ourselves that this is the easy bit , or so I am told. Remember ladies: we really ought to make the most of this bit despite the sleep deprivation amd other "minor" irritations, ha, ha...

I'm an idiot because I hesitated about the freecycle nappies, and now they are gone (the early bird and all that). I have only just signed up to freecycle and realise that I could have kitted out Peter entirely for free if only I had known. Quite enjoying the emails they send me though trying to work out if I need anything. Generally I don't.

Everything quite here this afternoon. We have all been asleep in front of the footie, and the two boys (DH & DS) slumber still. Hurray!

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5gomad hope you're feeling better today and get some answers from the doctors (hugs!)

josey sorry things have been rough lately for you and Olivia. Are you up for visitors? We'd love to see you again.

And DH and I are not too bright - we got home from Canada yesterday and were frantically tidying for a house viewing this afternoon. It's a second viewing so we're really hopeful. However, the woman was an hour late so we were really devastated after all our work - until she showed up and we realized that the clocks had changed. Thank goodness we didn't say anything about her being late! (I think she might be going to make an offer, fingers crossed! She was definitely trying to doom&gloom the housing market so that she could low-ball us. But any offer is welcome...)

Rolf DS1 (2yrs 4 months) is just starting toilet training too, it's earlier than I'd planned but he's sort of started on his own so I figure I should run with it. He had a tiny poo in the potty for the first time today. Fingers crossed that this isn't too traumatic...

PP - Are you trying to make a point ??? lol

Ah - Fingers crossed that she makes an offer, just as well the clocks hadn't gone forward and she had arrived before it was all ready!

Rolf - i think you have a great attitude to parenthood, keep the stories coming.

Alli - shame about the nappies, maybe some more will come up

Poppy - my hair's falling out too!

Katyjo - hangover gone now?

Sponge - thank you for the vote of confidence in my potty training experience - remind me in 3 years time will you!

How are you doing Paro?

Evening all! Josie can't believe you also chose the worst day of the year to get married on (avoid, Amber!) as well! My bad weather thing was walking from our house to the church - just across the road - but I had to hitch all my skirts and small train etc (and the cloak I wore) over my shoulder giving the whole street a lovely view of my wedding suspenders (hold ups) and knickers. And the Sunday was the day we wanted - lovely, autumnal...But Josie you're right, every anniversary has been awful too, including this year!

Too much happened here for me to respond to all so I'll pick and choose relevant ones. Sophie hope you're better - and hope you're not in pain.
Weaning not happening here, but spent the entire wedding breakfast on Saturday sat next to a (lovely) lady with a 2 year old who evangelised about baby led weaning. Interesting but quite funny really - something would be served, eg baby sweetcorn, and she'd say it was ideal for weaning and explain why!

Sponge and Ali: visit the real nappies (part 2) board - they're all ok on there and not hardcore. There's a lot of selling and swapping going on there though. Ali I bought some secondhand nappies from mumsnet classified - one of them had a mega poo stain!! The other two were absolutely spotless. So you take a chance. You're not allowed to sell used nappies on e-bay, but you can buy them on usednappies.co.uk. Or ask on the boards - there's a lot of places. I'm now really annoyed that I've given some secondhand one to my horrible 'friend', the breastfeeding 'expert' one, who was totally ungrateful and continued her lecture on breastfeeding. She hasn't even given birth yet. (What is the term for someone who was a friend but now hates you and is horrible?)

On that positive note...! I'm liking these witchy emoticons!

Oh, Rolf, loved the poo story. I clearly have potty humour. Was she trying to blame the doll?
A friend of mine had unorthodox potty training techniques and she was showing us where her extension was being built and we all stepped round the big brown turd on her garden path. She blamed the foxes. But it was definitely human, no question!

lol Essie

Far too many posts to respond to, can't remember all of them - thanks for all messages about Esther's rash - it has gone now - hopefully I haven;t damaged her by weaning!

Josey, so good to hear from you and I am sorry things are so tough. It is to be expected. I hope you are getting the help you need. FWIW my sister has a DD with cystic fibrosis and she does so well to cope with it (all the hospital admissions, physio, pills, the thought her DD has a terminal illness...) but every now and then it all gets too much and she goes on the antidepressants. Don;t expect too much from yourself.

Paro - doesn't your LO have a sleep in the day after that morning nap?

I have started Gina Ford's routine for six month olds today (ie three solid meals a day), and the DTs have both been asleep since 9.30pm, much better than previously. I am going to start waking them at 7.30am (have been getting lazy, some mornings I don;t get them up till 8.30) and following the routine so hopefully we will see an improvement. I think they are both teething badly too which might be why they are unsettled. Will keep you posted!