Three spikes and they're out. Whose teeth will be next?

[Essie3]

Seeing as it's a quiet time...

Evening all! Good chatting going on here today!

An attempt to respond to some...
Penguin I'm still grappling with bags. I've ordered the turquoise because of the reduced ones I (now) prefer it. But my Mum said I could have a contribution towards a red or a chocolate one for Christmas! Which would be better. She decided that if I got the turq one, it wouldn't be 'the one', and I wouldn't love it as much. True! I might go to Wandsworth Common to see if they have red or chocolate in stock. (London girls - that's a fine place to meet up sometime! The child-friendly bar there does Annabel Karmel food for children!)

Amber if you get married can I come? Don't do it on the 23rd October though, because it's the worst day for weather. Couldn't take my bin out today it's so awful here. Torrential rain and high winds. Like my wedding day!

Neenz great tip on the high chair - I will nip to Ikea (any excuse...) next week, and get more than one at that price! No, I'm serious - I'm getting a tripp trapp chair for Christmas for here, but we'll need something in London, and my Mum might need something... Also, if it's good enough for Formby, it's good enough for me. (Formby is considered to be quite posh if you're from north Wales!)

Swimming still haven't been with Iestyn because he's too little for huggies little swimmers! Like you Rolf the term dates don't suit me this term but I'll try to go next term. It will involve skiving off work but that's great news - work will be a shock to the system. (I get loads of time to do 'research' at home...so I'll 'research' in the swimming pool with Iestyn.) Also PMSL at your orange daughter. Sponge are you after a tan like Rolf's DD or a video?? I wasn't too clear on that...

Oh, and folks with wet babies this morning - here too! As with everything else, we're all getting the same thing. Iestyn had soaked through his vest, sleepsuit, grobag and cot sheet this morning! Not done that ever before, and no idea why this morning. Unless he was getting vibes...

I'm sure I've missed loads of you - happy anniversary 5GoMad, clearly celebrating as seriously as us today - DH was in court in Oxford.

Cool video Rolf. We are doing swimming lessons here too. Just played DH your video so he now has an idea (albeit a rose tinted one) of what we get up to. Peter not always the biggest fan of swimming. Today's class was mixed. He lasted to the end of the class and he wasn't crying ; he was sick in the pool [yucky] so had to get out and wipe us down; he spluttered and cried quite a bit after his underwater swims .

My new wrap sling arrived today. The colour is lovely. First couple of gos with it were really good and Peter seemed to like it. Then I got it a bit wrong, either that or Peter wasn't in the mood. Apparently the key to wrap slings is practice. If I get the hang of it tomorrow I will try and get a photo taken and post it for you to see. I do look very pregnant in it though!

Hmm, having just remembered about the sick in the pool I think I had better go and wash my hair. We had to go underwater too today for photos which makes it even worse. Yuk, yuk, yuk...

Deb - I'm trying your long-sleeved vest recommendation. For the last few weeks Thea's been waking up a couple of times in the night and she feels freezing.

DD1 smeared an entire chest of drawers with toothpaste a few days after DD2 was born. She's making sure she gets her money's worth out of us isn't she!

Oooh...welcome back Makescakes/Puree. Like your new name, very yummy Mummy! I can't call you PP though or I will get confused with Penguin. What about P&P?

Hello Neenz and welcome back too.

Happy anniversary Essie and 5gomad .

Hope it helps Rolf

Essie, lol! I was going for the swimming - although, of course, the orange tan sounds lovely too!

Belated happy anniversaries to 5gomad and Essie - Essie, I assume when you booked to get married at the end of October you weren't expecting good weather?! We got married in Australia in a heat wave - it was 45 degrees! Don't know which is worse tbh . . . . !

Did I miss an announcement btw? Is Amber getting married? How exciting!

Sorry, struggling to keep up with all the news - Alex has only picked up one night feed but I'm in pieces with tiredness . Pathetic really.

pureeandpearls, love the new name!

Morning Sponge it was truly awful the marquee men came out in the morning to make sure it was still there, great day though. On the Sunday we were all outside having lunch in T shirts it was so sunny and hot.

We are hopeful for Moonwalk as they are still insisting it is not full so entry forms are in the post, decided that we coulodn't be trusted to find our own way home at stupid o clock for the half maraton (being country bumpkins and all ) so we are going for it.

amber - It took my DP 7 yrs to propose and i had to keep insisting in the end he said same as your dp oh well i suppose i have to keep you now cause i like Fleur!!!

Happy anniversary and birthdays too

well all in one body suit didnt work for night time she still woke, actually think its me!!! the week she was ill with cold was same week all my health probs came to a head and i was trying to find diagnosis etc think i got a bit down and depressed (now wonder if PND? I still get crying and not wanting to get out of bed wanting to run away days Can it arrive soo late? or could be lack of sleep?) so cause she was ill too i spent a lot of time with her ie co sleeping and stroking her to sleep think its backfired now so starting from today im trying to get into a better routine, first of all we got up with Dp at 7am instead of BF and bringing her into bed with me and then getting up at 9am, was lovely but now i realize not doing her any good!! Naps also upstairs in cot now cause too moses/pram too small. so wish me luck!!!

yep debs have had hair cutting too

Well good thing is ive managed to put her down now for a nap just tucked her in, stroked for a bit then left and she has fallen asleep by herself

Sorry bit of egocentric post there again!!

Neenz cant help with routine as re above its fallen by the wayside but we have a big bedtime routine, milk, bath, massage, songs etc and its the only time at mo she sleeps for a stretch 7.30pm to 11 pm

LOL at Formby being posh - course it is (I dont fit in at all being from Rochdale )

Thanks for all routines, I wake mine after 30 mins in morning when I think they would go longer. Have been thinking when on 3 meals a day I will be more strict with 7-10pm. It is hard to leave them to cry but can't think what else to do except get them up.

Paro, I went to two meals a day very quickly, within a few days, they have veg/fruit at 10.30pm then baby rice at 6.30pm. They are supposed to drink as much milk but I think they are drinking less (bf so not sure)

LOL at your daughter Rolf

Re 8weaning* I went from 1 to 2 after two weeks and then after a few days (last 3 days) I have given him a third. I started off with lunch then when he seemed to need 2 meals I swapped to breakfast and dinner and then three days ago he was really irriatble so I gave him lunch and that really calmed him. Milk intake went down initally but he is drinking loads of milk aswell now - last night his nappy leaked so badly he was wet from armpits to ankles and my bed was really wet too (i'm sure it wasn't me or dp!!!!!!!!)

Hi all,

Paro Hope you are ok, it sounds like its lack of sleep to me, I get really anxious and down if I don't get enough sleep, but if you think it might be something more serious talk it through with dp.

Laura whinegums I am so sorry I brought bedlam (hamish) to our peaceful meetup! Hamish had been so good all day, but I think coffee and a chat with grown-ups wasn't his idea of fun and after I thought I lost my wallet I was a bit flustered, sorry I must have seemed like a right weirdo!

Charlotte is beautiful and I hope you carry on the way you are Laura, I worried so much about Mia's weight I stopped bf, her development was fine. My cousin's little girl is only just over 13lbs at 6 months (7lb8oz) when she was born and she is happy, content and doin really well.

whinegums Sorry I didn't get a chance to speak to you, B is gorgeous, very handsome wee chap.

Hope everyone has a fab weekend.
xx

Interesting that three of us have had major wet nappies in mornings since starting on solids.

G43 - how old was your LO when you started on solids? Are you giving yours more or less anything or just fruit/veg/baby rice?

Do you give a milk feed then breakfast or do you give b reakfast then milk? If mine have a bf before breakfast don't know if they would eat anything. What do you give for breakfast?

Neenz I started weaning DS at 20 weeks as he had been really unsettled for nearly two weeks. I haven't really given him baby rice unless I've used it to thicken a puree that I've dded to much water/milk to. SO far he has had apples, pears, bananas, apples with a tiny amount of dried apricot, mango, avacado, sweet potato, carrots, peas and sweet corn which I have mixed with carrots or sweet potato and also "four grain super porrige" which he has mixed with a little fruit for breakfast.

Re milk, Ds tends to still alot of milk during the night so I don't give him breakfast as soon as he wakes I usually wait and hour or a bit more. Yesterday he was very happy to eat his lunch and dinner straight after being breastfed so I assume he's having a growth spurt at the moment. He was so desperate for his luch he was cliging onto the sides of the bowl as I was shovelling it in!

katyjo it was lovely to meet bedlam, he's a smashing wee chap!

had intended to reply to lots of people, but there is a decidedly stinky nappy smell radiating from C's behind....

Neenz with Edie, we didn't do babyrice at all, as tp mornings we gave her a bottle of milk at 7 and then gave her breakfast an hour later which seemed to work really well, we still do this as she gets milk before nursery where they give her breakfast and then at weekends when it can get hectic she gets breakfast about an hour after milk.

Thanks for messages re feeding. I was dead against baby rice until I saw how little they were eating of the fruit and veg... I thought 'got to give them something to fill them up and make them sleep!' I think I still have such bad memories of sleeplessness from when they were first born I can't bear to think of not getting a good sleep at night!

My two have had apple, pear, banana, sweet potato, butternut squash, parsnip, pumpkin, broccoli.. I have a freezer full of bloody purees now!! And just got a fruit and veg box from Abel&Cole so have to make my way through that too.

Maybe will try them with a snack this aft cos they have food at 10.30 anyway which is breakfast really I suppose. Some banana maybe...

G43 - there is a such a lot of guilt involved in weaning isn't there, cos on MN it is like you are a child abuser if you wean before 26 weeks. I was keen to wait till 26 weeks but like you when my two became very unsettled (think I lasted one week of it) I had to give them food and they have been so much better since.

But on the weaning boards here they are like 'it is a coincidence, food doesn't make them more settled, all they need is milk, it doesn't make them sleep better, milk has more calories than food...' but my experience has been that it has helped them settle, has helped them sleep and has made them put more weight on.

paro sorry to hear you've not been feeling so good. I think lack of sleep can play a huge part in how you feel during the day. Like you, I'm in a habit of constantly soothing A to sleep, often beside me at night, and hence not getting proper sleep at night.

Last night was horrendous - awake for almost 2 hours in the night

I've been reading the 'Healthy Sleep Happy Child' book as I really need to do something about A's sleep. He's constantly waking during the night, which the book is putting down to being overtired. They recommend an earlier night, so I'm going to try 6.30 this eve to see if it makes any difference.

Hi Essie - what year did you get married? I got married on 23rd Oct 2004 and we had a terrible day for weather. Our wedding was at 2.30pm in a country house and it looks like it is dark outside in all the photo's but it was just because it was so stormy. The funny (???) thing is that it is always bad weather on our anniversary so we really picked the wrong day. Mind you we picked a winter wedding as we went off to New Zealand for our honeymoon and we had fab weather there. So all's well that ends well!

As for routines, we used the Gina Ford routine for my ds 1 and it worked a treat. Tried it out at 4 weeks and he settled into it within 2 days. We have been very slack with my dd and now we are paying the price as she doesn't go to bed until 11pm most nights and is currently waking once or twice, although I keep hoping that now she is on solids this will change - but she's been on them nearly two weeks and we've only had about 3 nights where she has slept through. It's really annoying as from 9 -15 weeks she slept from 9.30/10 until 5.30 pretty much every night. At the moment I am struggling to get her into the routine at night but we are managing to establish more regular feeding and she does generally have a good lunchtime nap. I'm regretting leaving it so long to start but with a very active 2 year old running around I've been taking the path of least resistance.

It sounds like everyone is doing great with the weaning, I've only made pear puree so far but I have just bought carrots and sweet potato to give Emma some more variety.

Have a great weekend all.

Just finally got A off for his late afternoon nap in his cot (the first day I've been putting him in his cot for daytime sleeps). As for this morning's nap, it took half an hour of screaming

Can anyone else who has had to let them cry to teach them to go to sleep themselves, could you please let me know how many days/weeks(?) crying you endured before they would just go to sleep?! I feel so bad, the poor little mite's whole body was shaking with sobs

Oh my God Josie that makes 3 of us on same day and 2004 congratulations and yes the wear=ther was terrible but the Sunday was georgeous.

Afternoon all

Thanks for the comments have spoken to DP and we are going to see dr next week and have a chat about things but it could just be sleep deprevation

Liking the weaning chat etc i have banned myself from going on weaning throead cause its all too much

Allnew sorry you are having probs too with naps. today i went with the flow of fleur and much better. She napped from 9am to 10.30am, 13.00pm to 13.45pm in her cot and now has just fallen asleep 5pm in her bouncy chair prob for bout 45min Bedtime going to see when she gets hungry and tired and take her up then and we will see what happens tonight

off to make tea and have a choc waffle that dp bought to cheer me up Bless!