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Seeing as it's a quiet time...

needahand my nephew has that train and it's a lovely toy. I'm hoping DS will let me have it for A!

paro I know what you mean about the sling comments. I've also had comments about his feet being all squished up, and someone told me to watch his head in case it fell back!

It's A's 3rd night in his cot and the screaming has started (DH on putting to bed duty!). Hopefully it won't last as long tonight

Hi, ta for comments on weighing LOs, and glad it's not just me! Allnew, thanks for welcome back. Hedgehog - have fun in Newcastle - my old stomping ground! - where is the wedding? Fungle, glad travel cot worked out for Isla.

We've been at the hospital today with B - he has been diagnosed with floppy larynx after all, so has been prescribed Ranitidine to go with the Gaviscon, and we will have to keep an eye on his weight. Of course I stupidly googled floppy larynx, and have scared myself... Stuff like it can block the airways has frightened the bejesus out of me, but the consultant didn't seem too concerned about it, so maybe I shouldn't be too freaked out. We have a breathing monitor at least - which went off for the first time the other night. Think that was because B has had cold.

Anyway, B was super charming and was very brave when getting fibreoptic camera shoved down his nose - he did keep glaring at the doc doing it though, but luckily a very pretty blonde on her work experience cheered him up!

Hope screaming has stopped allnew.

Will be watching the weaning chat with interest, but maybe won't be going down the chocolate buttons and custard route...

Fungle - I'm north of the city centre, up the coast. My Dad used to teach in south Liverpool. Sorry, I know I'm being cryptic (also with the baby list, and it's lovely knowing what all the siblings are called) but public forum etc etc.

Well the parents' night wasn't very helpful. DH and I both came away from DS2's teacher mumbling to each other "bad witness" . She blithered talked at length but on reflection didn't actually say anything. DS2 is a total space cadet with a very mulish streak, and hasn't paid any attention in school since this school year started (so why haven't we been called in??). Fortunately the teacher has, after much persistence and patience, made a great breakthrough today and thinks she's really got him on side (so nothing to do with it being parents' evening then ). We don't know what we can do with him. In fairness to the teacher, I bet he's a difficult child to have in the class as he is a pain in the arse extremely non-conformist. I'm pissed off with DS2 and with the teacher and feel as though I'm a crap mother who doesn't know what to do .

24/05/08 - KATYJO - Mia , ds 2.5 years
30/05/08 - PAROFLEURMAPU - Fleur
11/06/08 - SYBILVIMES - James Dominic, ds1 7yrs and dd 5yrs
11/06/08 - NEEDAHAND - SJ, Eleanor 3 yrs
15/06/08 - AMBRERC - Luke Joseph
15/06/08 - SPONGEBRAINPANTS - Alexander
15/-6/08 - ROLF - Theodora, DS1 (8), DS2 (7), DD1 (3)
16/06/08 - ESSIE3 - Iestyn Seiriol,
17/06/08 - ALIPALLI - Peter Bryce
17/06/08 - DEBINAUSTRIA - Ethan, Stefan 30/03/00 Tristan 20/02/02
19/06/08 - 5GOMAD - Sebastian Wilfrid Joseph, - Edith Eleanor Mary 21/1/06 nearly 3
23/06/08 - LIBRALADY - Luke Thomas Jacob Griffiths, Samuel William Ronald Griffiths 08/04/04
24/06/08 - HEDGEHOG979 - Isaac John
28/06/08 - UPSIDEDOWNCAKE - Dorothy Wijnanda Ann, CHRISTIAN RICHARD 20/11/05
02/07/08 - ALLNEW - Alexander
02/07/08 - FUNGLE - Isla Rose. Beth 24/09/03
whinegums Both my cousin and sister had a floppy larynx and are now happily in their 20's so don't worry. Ds was also a 'noisy breather' and I think he may have had it mildly too, doesn't seem to bother him now.

Amber I wouldn't worry about the weaning thread. I think there are a few mumsnetters who like to change their names and stir up trouble for kicks, they often pop on weaning threads and bf/ff threads just to antagonise! - evil!

Rolf - you are not a crap mother - repeat after me!!Maybe she'll keep on top of him now and maybe you should make regular appointments to chat about his progress, so that you keep informed and it keeps her on track too!!

ds2 has just started school here - aged 6, he has some speech problems, took forever to learn colours and is now really struggling starting to read. He's a really bright boy in other ways - following lego instructions to build v complicated things for older children, taking things apart, navigating remote controls, mobile phones etc etc... but OMG - the reading ( and I'm a teacher) I was beating myself on the head with a soft baby book tonight whilst he "read" to me. He's done "m" and "i" and the words "Mimi" and "im", so only 4 things to remember - CAN HE - NO!!?!!?? I think it's going to be a long slog.

Whinegums - sounds like your baby was very brave at the hospital, don't google it's always scary.

Whinegums - poor old B. That sounds horrible.

Needahand - sorry to hear about your neighbours. Doesn't sound ideal. The comment about the dogs made me smile though as DH came home a couple of weeks ago wondering whether we could take a rottweiler puppy that was going to be put down if no-one wanted it. DH knew what my answer would be, but he was still half serious about wanting one. Honestly, he is a wonder sometimes. DH has always hankered after a rottweiler, he thinks they are cute

Babywearing I have had comments too. Mostly from our parents though! They seem to think that it looks cruel, but then they can't argue with Peter crying when he is in the pram and not crying as soon as he is put in the sling. An old lady yesterday was worried that his head was cold. He was wearing a pramsuit. If she could have felt the heat building up between me and Peter she would have been worried that he was over heating instead.

There were other posts I wanted to reply to, but can't remember what now...

rolf Sorry about parents night, you sound like a bloody great mum to me. Surely if the teacher was having major problems she should have called you !

I'm currently writing dh (and the rest of the family ) a wishlist for my Big birthday this Christmas - yep 40 for me!!

What shall I put?

fungle I would love a meet up, but it now looks like my last two week of maternity leave will be taken up by house searches .

Whinegums poor little B and poor you. Must be so scary.

Rolf repeat after me "I am not a crap mother, I am not a crap mother, I am not a crap mother. Louder please! You are not a crap mother just because your DS is difficult, it is his personality and character, not necessarily something you can do much about. Stop beating yourself. By the way I thought of your career woes some more, perhaps you should go to some events run by your local law society, perhaps you might make some useful contact and even if not, it might do you good to feel that you still have a brain that can be challenged (if you know what I mean). Just because you can't practice at the moment doesn't mean you can't enjoy the law at all or am I being too simplistic?

Re weaning, SJ had a lentil puree tonight and absolutely hated it, watching his little face crumple in distaste was soo funny!

Debs cross posts re rolf not being a crap mother. Great minds... And surely the big 40 calls for something special and expensive (jewelry, holiday?, spa treat)

No comments here about SJ being in his sling, but then I've only had it one day. I love it though, I wish I had had it earlier.

Don't blame him - lentils !! Couldn't you have added a few chocolate buttons? Only kidding

Needahand - I took dh to London for a weekend for his 40th, so I'm hoping for a similar treat from him but it will have to be postponed as Christmas we have guests in , and also until Ethan is older!!

deb letter sounds like a really good idea, something to stock up for the future.

ali/Paro I also get loads of comments when I have isaac in one of my slings (homemade or otherwise) I have taken to ignoring them unless they are positive!!

whinegums I was a newcastle uni student and stayed for a long time afterwards. Wedding is actually Hexham, but staying 1 night at a friends in Wallsend (ironically she is coming to a wedding in Sussex, so we are meeting halfway to swop keys) but have lived in Fenham and owned our first house in Lemington. Am really excited and we get to go again next month too for a reunion - actual city centre that time as we are staying in the [whispers] gateshead Hilton [posh mummy emoticon]

Have started sorting stuff out to take to Wedding tried on my suit which I last wore in June last year - and it is too big too late/too poor to buy something else so will have to sit down all day so my trousers don't end up round my ankles!! Sorry to all those who are struggling to loose their weight. I used to really struggle before I got PG but think that a lot of it was due to the depression so I am so chuffed that it seems to be dropping off so easily. Have to keep telling myself that it will not be this easy after the next baby - Yes have been thinking about this already, thinking of starting TTC after Christmas as that will give me the 18 month age gap I want

wow xposted with loads of people then

deb glad I am not the only one who has to write a list for Birthdays/christmas

why do men not understand hints?

Whinegums - sorry, just seen your post. Hospital appointments are so horrible - glad it's over and don't scare yourself by googling!

Needahand - DH and I are very geeky and talk about the law over supper .I think when the girls are a bit bigger, if I'm still keen, I'll have to think of sideways methods of getting back into it. There's lots of volunteer organisations that need advocates and it's a good way of getting one's confidence back. I'm actually in much better spirits about it all now. I really appreciate you thinking of me though .

THanks for the comments about DS2. He's such a lovely little boy but I jsut know that he's going to have a difficult time at school.

30/05/08 - PAROFLEURMAPU - Fleur
07/06/08 - ABERDEENHIKER - Fraser, ds1 Duncan 25/06/06
11/06/08 - SYBILVIMES - James Dominic, ds1 7yrs and dd 5yrs
11/06/08 - NEEDAHAND - SJ, Eleanor 3 yrs
15/06/08 - AMBRERC - Luke Joseph
15/06/08 - SPONGEBRAINPANTS - Alexander
15/-6/08 - ROLF - Theodora, DS1 (8), DS2 (7), DD1 (3)
16/06/08 - ESSIE3 - Iestyn Seiriol,
17/06/08 - ALIPALLI - Peter Bryce
17/06/08 - DEBINAUSTRIA - Ethan, Stefan 30/03/00 Tristan 20/02/02
19/06/08 - 5GOMAD - Sebastian Wilfrid Joseph, - Edith Eleanor Mary 21/1/06 nearly 3
23/06/08 - LIBRALADY - Luke Thomas Jacob Griffiths, Samuel William Ronald Griffiths 08/04/04
24/06/08 - HEDGEHOG979 - Isaac John
28/06/08 - UPSIDEDOWNCAKE - Dorothy Wijnanda Ann, CHRISTIAN RICHARD 20/11/05
02/07/08 - ALLNEW - Alexander
02/07/08 - FUNGLE - Isla Rose. Beth 24/09/03

Hello everyone - somehow I'm busier on vacation than at home so I've not managed to get on for over a week. I did read the thread, but am so far behind I wont be able to reply to all the posts I want to.

Fraser seems really ready for food, he's almost 20 weeks, but I'm holding off until we're home and settled. I'm also loathe to start this time around because of the mess just like Deb, Rolf etc. I might try formula as a top up at night before bed, right now I'm pumping every morning and giving him EBM in a bottle at night. Does anyone top-up with formula before bedtime? It seemed last time that my entire NCT class was doing this but those who've had second LOs haven't bothered this time around.

whinegums - sounds like you guys are having a tough time! Hugs!

My 84 year old grandfather is really impressed with my sling (close baby carrier) and how Fraser sleeps in it and is considering getting in touch with the company (UK based) to see if he could become the Canadian distributor since there's nothing like that here. The scary thing is that he did this for a career so he might actually be serious and knows what he's talking about. My mother would have a fit if he started a business at his age (she spends a lot of time with him).

Also, I'm noticing a real difference here from the UK for baby stuff. Most of the buggies are mammoth-sized but not great quality and no one is into baby-wearing. We've had to drive for ages to find environmentally friendly and chemical free disposable nappies (DS1 has bad ezcema so we need these) and at home they're everywhere- including ASDA! The first few times we visited Toronto from Scotland it felt like coming home, but now Scotland is home and this feels like a foreign country in many ways.

Debs I thought about it to sweeten the pill but had run out I hate all the chocolate myself. Yep a romantic weekend sounds like a real treat, especially with three DS I imagine

HH know what you mean about thinking of conceiving again. SJ is only 4 months but I long for a little newborn again (). If I am fair I think I long for SJ to be a new born again, they grow so fast.

Right, I wanted to say to Hedgehog about eczema. Yes Peter has developed it, albeit mildly. I took Peter to the surgery when I thought the HV would be there, but I got the wrong day and so I saw the GP who prescribed a pretty standard emoillient. We had self diagnosed it first though by looking at the information on NHS Direct and in the "Birth to Five" book. Try this for starters. www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/article.aspx?articleId=145§ionId=10 At the moment Peter's skin is dry all over rather having red flare ups, although he had these initially. I also seem to think from having searched old MN archives on eczema that possibly Sybil or one of the the posters on here with more than one LO had an older LO with eczema in the past and so she may be more helpful. Now that Peter has eczema it turns out that most of my RL friend's LOs are the same and lots grow out of it.

UDC sorry to hear that you have all been unwell, and hope you get back to normal soon. DH has had the winter vomiting bug in the last day or two. He mostly seemed to be better this evening until about 20 mins ago... On the car seat front I realised that we got a category 0+ car seat which goes up to 13kg, so luckily we don't have to put Peter in a front facing one for a bit.

We had a lovely day today with my friend who has a 21 month old and a 6 week old. I could not believe how tiny the 6 week old is though. I was frightened holding her after the rough and tumble of wrestling with Peter! My friend is doing so well with two LOs, I am so impressed with how she is handling it. We had a brilliant moment when her older LO started playing with Peter, which made her DS laugh, which in turn made Peter laugh, and so on. It was the first time Peter has interacted with a non-adult and it was brilliant because it was so spontaneous for both of them.

I am about to post my latest favourite picture of Peter in his pramsuit. NB: MIL bought this for him to wear at around Christmas, but the chub monster is fitting it girthwise right now, even though the sleeves are far too long.

rolf not everyone reveals themself in school, he might excel somewhere else

AH I tried topping up SJ (and DD at the time)with formula before I started weaning but it didn't do anything. SJ actually last less time on formula than on BM.

cross-posted so here's the updated list:

24/05/08 - KATYJO - Mia , ds 2.5 years
30/05/08 - PAROFLEURMAPU - Fleur
07/06/08 - ABERDEENHIKER - Fraser, ds1 Duncan 25/06/06
11/06/08 - SYBILVIMES - James Dominic, ds1 7yrs and dd 5yrs
11/06/08 - NEEDAHAND - SJ, Eleanor 3 yrs
15/06/08 - AMBRERC - Luke Joseph
15/06/08 - SPONGEBRAINPANTS - Alexander
15/-6/08 - ROLF - Theodora, DS1 (8), DS2 (7), DD1 (3)
16/06/08 - ESSIE3 - Iestyn Seiriol,
17/06/08 - ALIPALLI - Peter Bryce
17/06/08 - DEBINAUSTRIA - Ethan, Stefan 30/03/00 Tristan 20/02/02
19/06/08 - 5GOMAD - Sebastian Wilfrid Joseph, - Edith Eleanor Mary 21/1/06 nearly 3
23/06/08 - LIBRALADY - Luke Thomas Jacob Griffiths, Samuel William Ronald Griffiths 08/04/04
24/06/08 - HEDGEHOG979 - Isaac John
28/06/08 - UPSIDEDOWNCAKE - Dorothy Wijnanda Ann, CHRISTIAN RICHARD 20/11/05
02/07/08 - ALLNEW - Alexander
02/07/08 - FUNGLE - Isla Rose. Beth 24/09/03

Rolf - you sound like a normal mother to me! A mother who doesn't think she's crap is either scarily delusional or completely incompetant. It's us good mothers who've high standards that feel inadequate.

ali I would start with oat flakes in a muslin in his bath and perhaps a cream with no paraben, preferably oat based.

Right off to bed. Night all

thanks needahand - maybe I should rethink plans and instead get DH to do one night feed with formula and I can do the other one with BM. That way we'd each get a solid stretch of 6 hours of sleep (and therefore feel like humans).

My boys are 17 months apart. It's a lovely gap, I recommend it