January 08 Shiny New-Year Babies - Here come the Tumble Tots

[madmouse]

hello

Depends.... I was told 9kg but my car seat says it will tolerate 13kg... 9kg is 19.82lbs and 13kg is 28.66lbs

Think my car seat is probably the first weight. Last time I got her weighed AGES ago she was 16lbs something...

Think a trip to baby clinic in order on Fri. Ahhhh.

Also think they will do the 8mth check. Is she pointing? No. Is she clapping hands? No. Is she sitting up? No.

You get my drift!! The only thing the (shite) HV will like is she drinks from tommy tippee cup by herself!!

(Not worried about milestones BTW!! - just c**p HVs!!)

I ignore mine alot of the time although they were very helpful last tues when I asked them about the fact that DD sees to have a slight tick (she cocks her ear to her shoulder and holds it for 2/3 secs then repeats a few times) they've said that if she's not doing it often (which she's not) to not worry about it but if it becomes more pronounced to see GP but above all don't pay attention to it as she'll do it more. Was chuffed with that.

But yeh agree most of the HV's round here aren't very good.

Oh wonder if I can persuade DP that we NEED the new carseat then?

evening all

mrsmc is he home? there is only so long he can be out drinking alone I remember when dh and I just moved to the UK and dh was very depressed, we had these weird arguments and he used to storm out a lot and stay away for what felt like ages (does not drink though)and I used to feel so lonely and trapped. noone close enough emotionally to call at such a time.
some firmness is required I think, laying down some basic rules. he had no right to demand lunch like he did and to attack you in such a personal way. but best wait till he is sober again. what effect will it have if you sleep with ds? rag to bull not a good move.

thinking of you hon

just back from aquarobics and Nathan has slept nicely for dh. Will probably wake as soon as I attempt to go to bed . Had a weird night fed at 12,3 and 6 then unusually for him stayed awake. Ended up taking him into our bed just before 7 and he refused to sleep there too, so dh entertained him while I woke up a bit.

so while I was having counselling he was screaming his little arse off with tiredness and the children's worker took him for a walk that sent him off for a nap.

on the good side, pupd is working really well and he has stopped waking during the evening which i actualy find more important.

funny was, i had just said to dh last night that I heard other kiddies with cerebral palsy etc had something called portage 9special needs early years educational support- learning skills through play) and occupational therapists and that I wondered whether we needed someeone like that. then this morning when I collected nathan I was introduced to a teacher who was a portage person and who had just been asking if nathan had all the support he was entitled to. so i now have a referral. Nathan is very bright so he should respond well to that. Got to fill int he referral form myself so ticked the box of occupational therapist as well pushy mummy

Does your DP know the weight restrictions otherwise you could "stretch the truth" and say she has definitely out grown the one she has, its unsafe etc...

My DH doesn't have a clue about car seats etc. When we came back from Ireland recently he did not even realise buggy was broken.

I bought a mothercare swoop in the end for DD and DH just accepts it when I say we need X Y Z iyswim.

lucky if it was Nathan it would be tummy ache

try holding her for a while to see if she settles properly, upright against you can help sore tummy too

I know you always worry waking her in case she stays awake

hope it passes soon

He thought that she needed a new one at 9kgs. I don't want to lie to him though. Also he's being very strange about money lately. REALLY worrying about it. It doesn't help that he keeps reading the tabloids which ofcourse are full of "end of the world" stuff. I've tried to explain to him that as we don't have money invested anywhere or want to move house it doesn't affect us that much but he ain't listening to that. His argument is that the cost of food and fuel and gas and electric is going up but his wages aren't which I can understand but I don't think its a big prob as we don't really live outside our means. IYKWIM....

MM - Good on you!! I'd be pushy parent too. My friend (who I saw today) is having real trouble getting help for her little boy. He's nearly 13mo now and can't sit up. He's been referred to physio who have him as 3rd urgent and he may be seen before xmas Bloody ridiculous I Say.

MM thanks for that hun but i've not heard a peep out of her for ages now so I think she's finally drifted off fully but if she does wake again I'll try that - have a bottle for her too so if she does wake properly i'll hopefully get her back to sleep with a bottle.

Lucky - maybe teeth? You are still waiting for them arent you? Or she may be having bad dreams? Thats awful regarding your friend babies should not have to wait for the care that they need! Bloody NHS it makes me so angry sometimes, i wont get started on that ot i will go on all night!

MM - what is portage all about? We are under the local early intervention team for DD not sure if that is the same thing! and also pupd?

Hi Simpson how is your evening going?

gosh you lot chatted whilst i went to bed early!

lucky - you'll need the car seat at some point anyway so why not get it while on special offer? ds2 has moved to next seat (can't remember the max weight for his rear facing one but the minimum for the next one was 20lbs/9kg) and loves it. they seem so much happier being able to look out the window properly and see what's going on.
{though i SHOULD say that most recent advice seems to be to use a rear facing car seat for the next stage too, but my kids wouldn't like it...}

right, breakfast time so back later...

MrsMc - how did last night go?
think Ange is right, dh needs a PLAN!
maybe if you sit down together and write out the next few years and what you both hope to be doing/achieve by the end of each year. a kind of 'where do you want to be?' exercise.
My dh has one of these that he did years ago and he loves ticking off the things we have done! we keep adding to it of course with the DCs plans, like starting to school, etc.
If your dh realises that these years are mostly DC focused for you, but that you will be going back to work/sharing the breadwinning in the future (at a set date if that works for you) he might lighten up? like Simpson has done.
If you are like me though you will need to write stuff down beforehand as i tend to get emotional and cry far too easily
most men find it hard to imagine the baby at the beginning when nothing is obvious to them, whilst we feel every change...
your relationship with him has obviously changed and it's throwing him from the sounds of it. you will need to spell out that your priority is ds really, not him, he is not a baby after all - even if he behaves like one
and the working with your parents thing- that could be adding to the stress?

simpson - yey for the wolf bumbo in the loft here too...such a short window of use.
i may have to rearrange bedtimes for a bit as i'll be on my own lots until christmas. afterwards i'm not so bothered as ds2 can have some milk in a sippy cup then during stories, just can't look at the books and feed at the same time - though he tries...

cazzy - pretty sure the othera are right about the grobag. what is she wearing underneath? ds2 has a sleepsuit and the bag at the mo, plus he now has a fleecy blanket (a throw from primark, really fluffy ) on top as he likes to chew it
could add a vest when is gets colder.

ange - even one nappy less in my life is a good thing love it when i see nursery has done a dirty one, lol.

lucky - hope night was better? your dd has been concentrating on moving, whilst ds2 has been concentrating on teeth! maybe they can swap now? he's still not rolling/crawling/etc.
oh and re feeling for temp, better to feel back of the neck or chest than head

madmouse - that all sounds v positive, well done you

right long enough, think i've said everything i meant to this time!
got to get boys and me dressed now!

Morning all

Just off out to send off postal orders for wolf!! Ds very excitied. Pay pal doesn't work for me for some reason

Mrs Mcjnr - hope everything ok for you?

Lucky - Hope you got a decent nights sleep...

JKS - Hope you have a good day today...

Cazzy - think our sleeping bag is 2.5 tog DD wears a babygrow and vest under it.

Madmouse - Glad PUPD method seems to be working. Good for you on the pushy mummy front

Hi to everyone else.

May not get on till tomorrow eve as going to stay at my house tonight. Bit nervous TBH but will see how it goes....

Morning ladies
How are things MrsMcJnr?
Yey on the wolf simpson.
We wright lists like that jks. Feels good when all the stuff is ticked off . I did my first bed time on my own last night too. dh is back to work full time now Wasn't too bad. No bath though. I shower them when I'm on my own one by one. If they have a bath its when dh is here. As soon as Georges bum is in his bath seat he splashes and splashes till were all as wet as he is
madmouse pushy Mummy= Happy Mummy
re car seats George has been in the next size up since he was about 3 months old. Basicaly for the fact we kind of passed all the others on so to speak. ds3 is now on a booster seat, ds4 is in his old seat and ds5 is in a new one but the next size up iyswim? Can you tell I have no clue what I'm talking about
Well I wasn't kept awake by George last night who woke at 4 as usual and then 7, but dh. He's got bloody toothache and was up and down all night so I'm bloody knackered today.
ds3 had his first full day at school yesterday and told me it was 'brilliabt'. Ha ha give him time.

Crikey, a new thread and I'm months, possibly years, behind.

Ok, not years, but a long long way....can anyone fill me in anything big?

Here, all good: Tamara not moving yet at all but she now sports her first tooth which came as a bit of a surprise as there were not signs apart from slight grumpiness for a day or two.

Going back to work in 3 weeks today, and off on holiday before that...so I may not be around much until I get back to the office but I suspect that I'll find a bit more time for MN when I'm not looking after 2 kids all day!!!

Hope everyone is well? xx

Hey Filly, glad to see you

Mrsmc how's things?

Simpson hope it goes well at your home...

Well managed to apply for a passport after having to have new photos made. Can you believe the Dutch demand pics on which your face is between 16 and 20mm from the start of one ear to the end of the next and between 26 and 30mm from top of the crown to bottom of the chin bureaucracy indeed [anger]

then on to Ikea for lunch and some storage for Nathan's room. Also wanted a cheap-ish and small-ish chair to feed Nathan in at night in th nursery, as my nest of cushions on the floor is killing me. Ended up with this, looks mad but just right for feeding. very low and nice rocking action. Bought a mad frog shaped fleece blanket to cover it.

cazzy pupd stands for pick up pat down, it is asleep training technique from the baby whisperer. you put baby in bed awake but leepy, if they cry you pick them up and pat them calm but still awake (you can also say shshshsh)then put down again rinse and repeat until bay falls asleep. I like it because it does not involve leaving baby to cry and after about a week Nathan is starting to self settle and I don't do a lot of picking up anymore. It is quite sweet, he grabs his toy hair, bashes it, kicks his legs, mutters something and falls asleep

portage is basically education before school age for children with special needs to help them develop skills through play. so I guess it is the same. Not sure how much help Nathan will need in terms of his cp. we notice he can now pick up very small things with his left hand using a real pincer grip, so he seems to be developing fine motor skills on that side.

leepy sleepy

toy hare typing rubbish...

I wonder why they dont do thicker growbags for when the weather gets really cold?!!

Madmouse - that technique sounds nice wish I had heard about it sooner. My health visitor suggested controlled crying which worked for DD as she now goes to bed awake gets herself off and sleeps through, but it was awfult to do as I hated leaving her to cry. Would have been nicer to maybe try something like that before resorting to such drastic measures but I guess I know now!
Well sone to Nathan the pincer grip is ment to be one of the hardest things to master! We have noticed that Izzy is using her arms much more this week so the physio must be having some benefits! Its lovely to finally be able to watch her grab and bat her toys on her playmat!

Sold our bumbo on ebay for £20! DD never was able to sit in it, and hopefully will be getting her special seat from the childrens centre on Friday so she will be able to sit with her friends and play

Did no one get the little hard board xmas book from marks and spencer thought it was a nice little bargain for £1 for lo's!

Weather been shocking here so been stuck in all day not spoken to an adult other than at school pick up so have arranged to meet couple friends tom for lunch. It's odd but there seems no structure to the day when dp not here iyswim.

Simpson good luck for tom!

MrsMc hope you and dh ok!

Madm lol you need to get an early night you sound all shopped out

Filly wow 3 weeks how do you feel bout going back ?

Gingeme can't imagine showering mine think i would end up soaking lol! DS could shower himself but dd2 sleeps in our bed still so by time he ready for bath she in bed and shower in our room! I throw all 3 in bath together if possible but find bed/bath hardest too! But do bath every night as dc expect it now!

Lucky hope dd ok tonight sounded like trapped wind maybe ?

JKS i do that too cry when i am really angry and want to get my point across makes me even more mad

x post Cazzy so glad Izzy is making improvements with the physio it must make you twice as proud when you know each milestone is twice as hard for them to master and ditto to Nathan MM

Hi Lilyloo

All 3 in the bath together! You brave mummy! I find doing one hard enough! I am feeling proud today her pead said that she is a very determind little girl with a great drive made me feel very proud. Especially when people keep saying she's just lazy and doesnt want to sit ext

Where is your dp does he work away?

Cazzy you deserve to feel proud and each achievement no matter how small to others is a major step for you. Some people can be so ignorant and hurtful. I love hearing how Nathan is doing and now Izzy as it makes me think twice when i begin to grumble about dd being into everything!
Special baby's are sent to special mummys !

Long story with dp but basically he had mortgage buisness that went under with current situation and he now doing training for a bank which doesn't look much more stable today Hopefully when training done he won't be away as much. That's if he still has job although on news it saying they putting in package to rescue banks but we worried last in first out!
What do you do on evenings ? Am hoping to be able to find something myself as can't afford childcare for 3 if i go back to old job!

Just popping in to say Hello. Absolute no chance of catching up at the minute. You ladies have been very chatty while I've been on holiday. Hope you are all well. Will try to catch up tomorrow.

It is a worrying time at the moment isnt it, my mum is fuming today as she had money in the Ice save bank that is all over the news!

Who is he training with tell me to bugger off if i'm being too nosey! I was on a residential training programme with co-op bank training to become a financial advisor when I fell pregnant but left as with the baby coming it wouldnt have worked out.

And now I am working as a waitress in the restuarant where I worked when I was 18! BUT it works really well as we dont have to pay for childcare, also the money which I get in tips is tax free. My DP was reluctant to me going back at first but then he realised how much money can actually be made he is fine with it. Although its only minimum wage I probably come home with about £100 a week in tips if i've had a good week!
Also have managed to shed the last of my baby weight from being on my feet all night so it has its perks!

What did you do before your newest addition?

Hi Cazzy same field as you is with royal bank of scotland now! Training to be a finacial advisor he had some outstanding exams. I know what you mean re it sounds really bad but one of the mums at dd1 swimming class has a restaraunt and was thinking of asking her for some hours. Other than that have app form for asda and called into local booze buster who want someone but wary of being in shop on own.
I worked / work in school with vulnerable kids and families going from yr6 to high school. Will be sad to leave but went to 3 days after dd2 and now basically cc outweighs my wage Am hoping to start teacher training next Sept when dd1 starts school all being well guess my career on hold for mo!