JUNE 07.........PSSSSSSSST over here :0)

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came to talk and the thread was full.

Oh, natty. Sorry to hear that, but try not to get too disheartened. If you go to the hospital they will probably do a pregnancy test (so take a sample of "first thing in the morning wee" with you as hcg more concentrated) and would then do a belly scan, but would probably need to do an internal scan to see anything , but it would just be the foetal pole at this stage as it's uncommon to get a heartbeat before 6.5ish weeks.

I hope all is well.

I would wait till tomorrow and contact the EPU as well as A&E are unlikely to have someone available to scan you at this time of the evening.

i wont go in then, as if there is no heartbeat visable i will freak! i will give it a week and try again if tests are not getting darker.
i am thinking possibly cos the tests are 2 differant types? one is boots own brand one is first responce. are the boot less sensitive?

my local EPU will only see u if referred by the gp.. and no doctor appoints avalible till next week
if i go a&e they will do what they did last time, pregnancy test followed by bloods to get exact HCG and then scan if HCG is above a certain level. last time it was 11 and they would scan me cos at 6 weeks it should have been in the thousands and they said that means baby died a while ago
which is why i am panicing, cos according to docs baby dies monday and i miscarried thursday. so for all i know the baby may not be ok now.. its making things so much worse!

*wouldnt scan me

natty at this stage it depends on the time of day you test as the hcg concentrations get less throughout the day. And yes, the first response tests are very sensitive so would, I'd think, give you a stronger line. At the end of the day though, a line is a line is a line. It shouldn't matter how light or dark it is. Line = pregnant. Can you stretch to one of the digital tests? It might reassure you a bit. It's really crap, early pregnancy after a miscarriage. I sooooo feel for you, lovely

Can you not get a phone consultation with the duty GP? We can do that here if they are horribly busy. Then GP can fax through a referral for you. I would call again tomorrow and say you need to speak to a doctor urgently and explain what is happening. They would be very heartless if they didn't get you a referral.

Here we can self refer thankfully.

thanks daisy. i am testing first thing.
i think im gonna get a first responce and compare that to the first one. i cant really compare two diff brands can i ?
i know that the darkness of the line is effected by how much HCG u have.

Oh Natty please try not to worry. I know that it's hard. I think that it is likely that 2 different types of tests will bring up different results. I think that if you had used the same test each time they would have been very similar.
IMO the best thing to do is leave the tests well alone, as although positives can be reassurring(sp?) it's not helping your piece of mind atm.

Congratulations btw
Sending you lots of ((((hugs)))) and sticky stuff xx

Hi to everyone else! Hope you all had a lovely Bank Holiday weekend

JBM sorry to hear about your DD having to be whisked off to hospital like that I really hope that she's on the mend. How scary for you .

Bumper, sorry that your DH is going through all the crap with is job. Hope it gets sorted soon. Congrats to LCY!

Annobal, hope your DS gets on Ok with his hearing aids!

Fury, so about your dog. It's sooo hard. I just wanted to let you know that I found the Cocker Spaniel Club fab! We rang them (the lady that we dealt with was lovely) they ask you a load of questions about the dog and then they work to pair them with the perfect owners for the dogs needs etc. They never take the dog away from you and the dogs never go in Kennels or anything like that, they just ring you when they have found perfect owners and arrange a time for them to pick up the dog or you to drop the dog off and the dog then goes straight to the new owners. The person from the Cocker Spaniel Club will then keep an eye on the dog once it is with it's new owners and will keep in touch with you to let you know how it is doing and pass on photos. The new owners are vetted and have to give references to the Cocker Spaniel Club to say that they are suitable to own a dog etc. I will find you a link to the website if you are interested.

Went shopping to the Trafford Centre today! We got a gift for our friend's new Grandson and took it round today. AIBU to hate their daughter? She has a 2 week old little boy and her stomach is as flat as a board

lol izzybel, YANBU at all

Are you close to the Trafford Centre then? It's only an hour from me

Not too far! About 30 - 45 mins... depends if DP is driving!

spaniel club website for fury

Right off to bed. Goodnight xx

feeling sick this morning
thats a good sign
havent done test yet dont need to go.. lol
im sure it will be fine, im just worrying myself and being silly
not like me at all

Hi Natty. I can't imagine how worrying this must be for you, but I really think the best thing you can do is try to relax. Easier said than done I know. But at this stage I don't think there's much you can do to make a difference one way or another, and I agree with Izzy that too much testing doesn't necessarily help. HOWEVER, that is of course just my opinion, and it's not me going through it, so feel free to ignore me Thinking positive thoughts for you though.

Jamlet pointed for the first time (that I'm aware of) this morning I had a reflexology appointment adn we were going to be very early, so we stopped at the recreation ground nearby to kill some time. I was planning on just letting her play on the grass a bit, perhaps have a little toddle about etc. But she saw the playground area with the swings in and got excited and definitely pointed! So we had 5 minutes of pushing her on the swing, which had her in fits of giggles

Hello
Glad you have been feeling sick Natty... well, you know what I mean LOL! I really do feel for you. Being pg after a mc really sucks. It makes you worry about every little niggle (as if being pregnant wasn't worrying enough!) But everything will be fine!!!

Yay for Jamlet pointing and I meant to say for her taking her steps the other day too!

Well not much to report here, just wanted to come on and see how everyone was. You lot have been quiet this morning!

I have been busy working...well actually have been gassing on chat threads this morning and generally ignoring my children.

been getting really strong braxton hicks contractions on and off all morning......is this going to be another one like DD?

wooo for jamlet, and on the steps too (I must have missed that)

natty, glad you are feeling more positive (no pun intended ) today. I'm sure everything is just fine

if DS has one more tantrum I am going to kill him

fury, I feel your pain. will it help to think about it being him unabel to express himself and tell you what he wants and that as he gets more vocal it'll stop?

Probably not but stick in there; he is obviously a clever little onion

Right babies should be in bed by now as there is a glass of cold pinot grigot in the fridge with my name on it.

oh, but found out today all my worrying over maternity pay was unnecessary. I thought I'd be on about £200 a week for the first six weeks...turns out it will be just over £500

I'm already eyeing up a new handbag and wondering whether to tell DH or not

did a test, first responce, line is soooo dark is crazy! am feeling a million times better and have vowed not to touch another test! well i will try

i am fecking knackered. went out early with kids, house a mess left DH home, assuming he would at least wash up.
no
he has done nothing
at all
and now i have to do it all cos he is out at the cinema
grrrr

Fury i dotn wanna sound new age but baby signing helped ellen a massive amount. 1 tantrum a day now, and only over something she cannot have rather than cos i dont know what she wants.
i can send u a copy of the dvd? worth a try perhaps?

Natty glad to hear your line is suitably dark!!

Daisy yes I have been reading your posts and -sorry - hoping that I don't have the same fate! It must be very hard.

I am having a lot of problems with DS right now. We have learnt that he is very smart, very stubborn, and very strong willed.

He is refusing to communicate on our terms (not sure baby signing would help natty? maybe...)
ie, he WILL NOT learn any words and instead tries to teach us his series of grunts and whines. He used to try and talk but has given up. But he knows exactly what we are saying damnit.

He will have a full on screaming tantrum over ANYTHING. Dinner being too hold/cold/'interfered with'. Not being allowed to climb the stairs. Being picked up. Not being picked up. Not having the right spoon/fork. Being put in the pram when he wants to walk. Not being able to climb on the couch. Us helping him on the couch. Us not helping him on the couch.
etc.

I am hoping that when he learns to communicate it might ease up... but I don't think it will. I think we have a few more years of it yet.

DD can get like that at times fury...and once she has started there is no reasoning with her; she screams to get picked up, when picked up she screams to get down again, wants the toy then throws it away when given to her and so it goes on.

Her latest is with food; if she doesn't like the look of it, she takes a big handful and dumps it on the floor.....or tries to feed it to the cat . she has a range of words (or half words like ba (bath), be(bed) and her latest, which is very cute, ballil(balloon)) so communication isn't a problem, and she is especially good at saying NO . I'm impressed that DS is trying to get you to do his grunts though; definately a smart cookie there.

Natty, great news on the test......I hope you can relax a bit now

Evening all

Natty, glad you've had your mind put to rest.

Fury/Daisy those tantrums sound baaaaad. Thankfully nothing that bad yet, just a few little baby paddies when I won't let her have something she wants. I'm sure it'll come though.

Bah! You've all disappeared now that I've finished work