APRIL 2008 - The One Where We Step Away From The Psycho Pill and Try Not To Need Pregnancy Tests!!!

[VictorianSqualor]

Our Babies

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for SalLikesCoffee, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
05 April: Ellis, a baby girl for MadameOvary
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
09 April: Jasmine, a baby gilr for Niceychops
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
11th April: Florence, a baby girl for LouMoose
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
16 April: Jasmin, a baby girl, a first baby for Eggandketchup, 9lb 3oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
17 April: Benedict, first baby for LadyBee 9 lb 3oz @ 41 +2
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
20 April: A baby girl for SushiMama
21 April: Eve, a second baby for OMaLittle, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
21 April: A second DD for Monmoo
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
22 April: A second DD for blinks.
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
30 April: Ellie, a baby girl for Annamama
30 April: A second DD for luckymummy74
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for MommyHasAHeadache, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for sagitta, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

Should you feck, OML, (or Scamp, as I think of you!). You should - as you did - be eating magnums, and lazing in front of the telly. You've been ill!

I bribed dd1 to help me clean the bathroom. Brilliant parenting. And now i've put on the telly so I can MN.

And, yes, you're right. I've admitted to my rodent problem. . Got rats on the brain at the moment...

Yes, my back hurts too. I slipped a disc when DD1 was five weeks, so I've been really nervous about it this time and never carry the dds at weekends when DH is around. But its getting them in and out of cots, and changing nappies on the floor that really seems to do it in.

Back horrible if I carry R for anything longer than an hour a day too, so I tend to use his buggy around here and his sling only when I'm worried about steps or rain. When I pick him up inside I stand funny, kind of twisted, which doesn't help either, I know.

Oma and TSC - I'm still thinking of you both in your "maiden names" terms

Dh away Tuesday to Friday next week (coming back mid-day, but I'll only see him evening), will miss his help. That'll teach me for moaning about how he does stuff!

Why do the buggers keep going away? Er... to stop us moaning about them on the internet and make sure we realise they are a little bit helpful?

I know what I should have been doing! Expressing! Then I can legitimately MN!

mmm - it would be too generous to say that DH is a little bit helpful...not that i'm bitter, or anything.

Actually, to be fair, he is going to work from home one day next week so he can take dd1 to nursery/ pick her up/ put her to bed while I take A to a work meeting in London. Should be interesting. I'm a bit scared of having to BF in the office...

In fact, if anyone is knocking around central london at lunchtime on tuesday, I'll be there.

Hehehe OmaLittle. I've noticed an eagerness to go on overnight trips lately... Surely it can't have anything to do with loads of waking up at night and the luxury of a double bed all to his own now, can it?? [wink}

Sorry, x-post TSC (had to dessert my post half-way through for yet another nappy change). I went to the office the other day - was weird but nice at the same time. (Not bf-ing, but just weird to be there as a mum as apposed to manager).

It was weird? Oh dear. That doesn't bode well for me. And I'm not just visiting. I've got to go through loads of new designs and proofs, and apparently come up with loads of ideas...I've got nothing to wear and will have A with me. Going to look sooo professional, especially if A is true to form and I've had 4 hours sleep...

I went in a few months ago and had to breastfeed. Only person who came up to me was the shyest chap in the team (I've been in it for five years and have had approx. 3 conversations with him) and he came up and pointed at her going 'is she sleeping?' - er, kinda - then realised and sloped off. Other than that it was way less embarrassing than I thought. Then again, I obviously don't give a rat's arse what they think as I revealed my flabby 2kids body in my boss's swimming pool when I went to his summer bbq!

DD1 is being SO cute today (which is good as I've had one of those days with DD2 where I feel like the last 20.5 weeks count for nothing and I have absolutely no understanding of her needs whatsoever ). DD1 has today started wanting to sing with me. We have gone through Hakuna Matata, I Just Can't Wait to be King (the Simba song, Mummy!) and 'Mummy's song' - A Whole New World, apparently . Please no-one expose me when I'm moonlighting on another 'I'm into really cool music' thread on MN one day. Seriously, though, singing with her was so lovely I'm welling up just thinking about it.

Oh Oma, that is sooo lovely! Ah, it's one of these things where you just wish you could have a snapshot of the whole thing - sounds, feelings, everything, to keep you heart warm and fuzzy on difficult days.

TheShipsCat - not weird as in horrible, it was actually quite nice. It was just strange because I was there in a completely different position. Since you're actually there not only as a current colleague, but also doing work on the day, I think it will be great. (I left my job when I had him, so was strange in not caring about what's happening as well. )

Oh Oma, that is sooo lovely! Ah, it's one of these things where you just wish you could have a snapshot of the whole thing - sounds, feelings, everything, to keep you heart warm and fuzzy on difficult days.

TheShipsCat - not weird as in horrible, it was actually quite nice. It was just strange because I was there in a completely different position. Since you're actually there not only as a current colleague, but also doing work on the day, I think it will be great. (I left my job when I had him, so was strange in not caring about what's happening as well. )

Oh Oma, that is sooo lovely! Ah, it's one of these things where you just wish you could have a snapshot of the whole thing - sounds, feelings, everything, to keep you heart warm and fuzzy on difficult days.

TheShipsCat - not weird as in horrible, it was actually quite nice. It was just strange because I was there in a completely different position. Since you're actually there not only as a current colleague, but also doing work on the day, I think it will be great. (I left my job when I had him, so was strange in not caring about what's happening as well. )

Oh Oma, that is sooo lovely! Ah, it's one of these things where you just wish you could have a snapshot of the whole thing - sounds, feelings, everything, to keep you heart warm and fuzzy on difficult days.

TheShipsCat - not weird as in horrible, it was actually quite nice. It was just strange because I was there in a completely different position. Since you're actually there not only as a current colleague, but also doing work on the day, I think it will be great. (I left my job when I had him, so was strange in not caring about what's happening as well. )

Sorry, my laptop driving me mad...

Bloody hell you lot talk loads! Can't catch up....

Had a rotten couple of days with mol, but she's gone down like a dream tonight - exhausted from 2 days of crap sleeping. Or maybe she just knows when the window threats start to sound real....

Oma - your singing with your LO made me all sniffly x

I missed you!
I had a cooking afternoon, made Lamb Tagine in double quantities and will hopefully do Chicken Olives tomorrow after swimming.

OMa, only think I can think of suggesting is cutting the early nap short, so it's 9:30-10:30 ish, then 12:30-2:30 ish, then a short one 4:30-5, then you've got 2 hours to a 7/7:30 bedtime. ...

or...earlier bedtime. The Healthy Sleep Habits book recommends trying an earlier bedtime as one of his strategies for trying to stop overnight waking so you could try putting DD2 for 6:30 - he promises it won't result in earlier waking

TheShipsCat (Sagitta) good luck with the rodent ridding, we've got something, cat or fox I think, excavating the planters at the front of our house, which is really hugely annoying as it's exposed the roots of a rosebush I've been trying to coax along since DS was born.
Must remember to go out and collect tomatoes tomorrow as well, all we won't get any ourselves to eat.

I wake up every morning with a sore upper back, I don't think I move in my sleep anymore and am so stiff and sore. I go to bed with aching knees and wake up with a crook back..like an old lady me.

oohh, I've bought a buggy!

and I haven't told DP yet.

I think I won't. I think I'll just wait for it to turn up and then tell him how clever I was getting it for a bargain price and show him the super-dooper folding thing, and he won't mind at all.

Besides, I've paid for it out of my own money. He really can't complain.

This is the buggy I got.

cool buggy, ladybee! I'm sure dh will love it!

I tried that routine - more or less - yesterday, giving A an hour at 4-5. But although I put her down at 7.15, she didn't sleep till 10.15. (Then up at 4,5,6 etc). -As OMa said so well - "I've had one of those days with DD2 where I feel like the last 20.5 17 weeks count for nothing and I have absolutely no understanding of her needs whatsoever ".

Hello all. Another OK night - up for 50 mins twice and ten minutes another couple of times (though I was VERY fast asleep and quite confused so I'm not really sure! I did note that I think there's some kind of alarm in her that goes 'TING! Mummy's about to get three hours' unbroken sleep, better start yelling, even though I'm not hungry', though... anyone else's LO have one of these and anyone know how to disable them?). Sis has gone to Indonesia (after staying out till 3 last night and leaving here, far, far away from Heathrow at 8.50 for a 12pm flight - sometimes I feel more like her mother than her younger sister!) which is quite a relief. Had a bit of a falling out with Dad on the phone as I can't help but be a bit spoilt brattish about the fact he said he couldn't help me on Tuesday because he had to practise for his cello lesson. Feel like I am always usually the diplomatic glue that holds my dysfunctional family together and at the moment I just don't have the spare emotional capacity!

Aaaaah, MN therapy.

On a good note, DH is coming back today and I am SOOOOO excited about seeing him. If you'd told me two months ago our relationship would be back to this by now (even before she's sleeping through...) there would be no way I would have believed you. So thanks for helping me hang in there!

LadyBee, love the buggy and your cooking sounds delicious. Must be on the mend .

TSC, was trying (in vain) to figure out how could do a Tues lunchtime with DD's nursery, assume you are working the morning or could you do an 11am coffee or something?

Was thinking of you all in the night as I tried to fob youngun off with one boob at the 4.30am feed. Initially went well, she had an extra 10 mins on the right (I was saving the other for expressing), then sat up for burping, glanced down meaningfully at the other boob, looked up and flashed her winning smile, then quick as a flash activated Plan "Dive And SUCTION"! Initially foiled by my top, she efficiently grabbed it and pulled it away. I suspect this might be a girl of considerable wiles.

OMa - (actually, I do think of you as OMa now). It would be great to meet you - but I have to be at work at 11.00.... I've got a feeling you live in S London - but if I'm wrong, I am going to Camden in the pm, if that's any use.

Was going to write more about sorry you had a shit night etc but must go stop the crying....

We are indeed in South London (as are all the best people and gun criminals and uninsured drivers). You could meet my DH in Camden, as he works there, though that might be a little odd. Perhaps we should swap for the day - by the afternoon they'll have sent me packing owing to mild underqualification so we (and A) could sit in the pub... hmm... nice idea.

DD2 doing another 2.5 hour special . DH picking up DD1 on his way back, but feel like I should check he'll make it otherwise I've got to get her out of bed and make a real run for it.

Ah, MN. For when you don't have anyone else to talk to.

howdy all

well the builders have started and there is mud mud mud everywhere not to mention the racket caused by them smashing up 50 year old concrete that is about 4 feet thick. Luckily DD seems happy to sleep through it at her 'normal' times so that is a blessing.

Re sleeping issues I would try reducing the amount of naps during the day - DD has about 3 hours only now - 9.15 till 10 and 12.15 till 2.30. sometimes she has a short nap in the afternoon about 4.30. Then bedtime is 6.45 ish after filling her full of milk(!) and she will generally sleep until 6.30/7 ish.

DH has decided we need a holiday so have been frantically searching all morning for somewhere in the Lake District for next week - it is so hard to find baby friendly places....not that I ever growled at squealing babies pre-DD of course