June 07 - Schools Out for Summer; well for some of us anyway

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Where's Tallulahbelle? Hope she is OK. She's not been on for ages. Anyone know?

I was wondering about tallulah just the other day. i'll send her a FB message or email.

DS is still....challenging. His latest is that it's not his fault he is naughty. It's his brain that makes him do these things and he has no control over it and has to do what it tells him! He is either very clever and has picked up on stuff DH and I have talked about or else he is a bonafide nutter . The books are good, but I have yet to have the scenario in the book where my calm and reasoned response is met with an "ok mum".....we still have the constant arguing back and if I try walking away from him, he just follows me into the other room going on and on and on at me about how horrible i am, how hard done by he is, how emily always gets the attention, how i'm going to go to jail etc etc etc. And this is his standard response to everything; even a simple "Go and out your plate in the kitchen" is met with "I didn't leave it there, it's not fair, I always have to do jobs, you never do jobs, you're going to jail, I'm going to kill you, I'm going to kill myself, you're not my mum anymore" (and that's all of those things at once, not a delete as appropriate) I try to stay calm in the face of this sort of onslaught, but tis very,, very very, trying not to mention emotionally draining

ooh, Hello Norty. How very rude of me

How are you?

norty, how are DDs teeth?

Mine has been dribbling and drooling all day like a hungry labrador. She soaked through four tshirts today.....the front of them was completely slathered from neckline to hem!

lol at this thread I googled my old student address and lo in front of me was mine!

Daisy, I think all that is standard. If that makes you feel any better.

I hear it regularly.

Sometimes I like to say "Would you? Would you really like me to die? And never see me again? Ever? I'd be gone forever" but thats quite cruel I guess. Mostly I say 'that's nice dear. now go to your room before I get angry."

Worst thing I did yesterday was laugh when DS1 was attacking me. What started off as him going for me with a slap ended up with him clawing my arm as hard as he could in sheer frustration.

DS2 has started to have angry hissy fits as well. But I am still bigger than they are so if I put my hand at arms length on their forehead they still can't reach me.

DS1 frequently wants the others to die, or he wants to die or kill himself. Tis all for effect. Oh, the other one is 'I'm so stupid. I don't deserve XYZ". That one is far more effective. And the bugger knows it.

Do girls do it, I wonder? Or is it a boy thing?

Evening ladies

Daisy, DD is a right whingebag with her teeth.....she opens her mouth for the bonjela now (I only give the calpol when really necessary). I can't believe every time I look in her mouth there are more poking through - at least 6 all coming through........must hurt like hell. Luckily she doesn't dribble though.....just screams

I was wondering about Tallulah the other day as well

Hi Foxy....Ria and anyone else I've missed.

I'm going backwards here again so I'm going to the doctors tomorrow and going to stand my ground....I cannot let this rule everything I do any more and I just have to accept that for a short while it will get worse before it gets better.....I'm terrified of doing anything to my baby though but I really don't think I can carry on like this....Daisy, did you have feeling like this about taking meds whilst pg?

It's reassuring that it seems to be an age related boy thing foxy. I think girls save their venom for their teenage years

Norty, I did lots of resding on the effects of the drugs in pregnancy and talked things through really well with my GP, who has been nothing short of bloody fantastic through all of this, as well as canvassed opinion on here and was pretty satisifed that any problems related to the drugs are either caused in the first trimester or else baby is likely to have withdrawal symptoms at birth; though saying that DD never had any on=bvious signs of withdrawal. Fluoxetine is the SSRI with the best track record in pregnancy as it has been around for such a long time now and I was happy to take it for that reason alone. I also talked at length with my psych and he agreed that it's a risk thing and that there is more risk to a baby who has been through a very stressed and anxious pregnancy than there is from the drugs. It's a case of weighing up the pros and cons I suppose. If anything, you should demand a referral to a psych with experience of treating pregnant women, but I think at the very least it's what your GP ahould be suggesting anyway.!

Thanks Daisy.....I can't carry on feeling like this, but after my last visit I'm terrified she will send me away with a "keep busy dear" attitude.....fucking doctors....fucking anxiety...

right off for a relaxing bath and read some shitty mag....shame I can't have the whirlpool option but so be it

Norty...some stuff you can read through and use to slap your GP around the chops with influence your GPs thinking on this.

CG45 Antenatal and postnatal mental health: quick reference guide

understanding the NICE guidelines

Antenatal and postnatal mental health: full guidelines

Thanks Daisy...you're fab

don't think I'll slap her round the head with the last one - it'd knock her out!! 369 pages.....well that'll help me sleep

aw, shucks

all the more reason

and don't make me laugh out loud.....tummy muscles still too sore for that nonsense

Right off for some bedtime reading....and puking probably

Night x

Hi and bye Norty, sorry you're feeling crappy, but stick with it. You do have to look at the pros and cons as daisy said, but you know yourself better than anyone else and if you think you need something then push for it. There's no point you pushing yourself to cope now, and then be beyond breaking point when you have then LO to care for. If it helps my boys are all fine (on the surface) and they've all had a little bit of "something" in my blood stream.

Sorry you're having a hard time with DS daisy. I have no advice, I generally go for screaming back at them (apparently both my dsis's threaten their children with coming to live at Aunty Ria's house when they're being naughty/feling hard done by, and then they'd find out what it's really like to have to behave) DS1 has finally got his CAHMS referral. We are having to spend our holidays with a weekly visit from a late middle-aged student MHN, he has strong aftershave, an earring and a sports car. DS1 witters on to him about nothing relevant and he witters back pointing out the bits in the worksheet that arent relevant as he's a child and CBT. six months too late matey.

Lovely DMs laptop decided to do some updates so I had to come back and turn it off.

And nick a pizza out of her freezer

lol ria.....in a wry funny way

perhaps my siblings and inlaws use the same threat re my house

good for the cahms referral and i hope things start to get better for DS1. Is he getting nervous about high school yet?

thanks for the message daisy.

I'd better be off again. Tis very lonely at home without you guys though. Will have to chat to DH (suppose that's better than the alternative though). I broke the modem during a cleaning frenzy.

I think he is a little nervous, though he wants to go on the bus (and because we're bona-fide pikeys we get free bus travel for him) and he wants school dinners (which he can have while they're free too) He really grew up a lot while his cousin was here, now it seems like they never came.

I really am going home now. I was putting some pics of the christening on FB, and I can't find them on the laptop. I will bring the disk next time and put them on. The service was lovely, it was more like a reaffirmation of our wedding vows than just the standard responses. Anyway, enough of that...

Back soon!

christening sounds lovely Ria . glad you hadd a good time and enjoyed it.

I'm off to bed; talk to you soon I hope

and if you want to meet up for a coffee when DH has his next appointment, you know where to find me

Sorry I missed you Ria

Christening sounds lovely Ria

Morning all

Chickened out of GP...

Naughty Norty

Take it easy though lovely and try and see them next week. You can't go on like this and I think you know that yourself.....and surely it's getting to the stage where they said they would prescribe womething anyway?

{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}

So, is anyone meeting up today at all?

I know...I know....

Don't know what DH is going to say.....