It's my party and I'll cry if I want to... June '07 PN one year on. Happy birthday babies.

[justRia]

feeble attempt, but we'llfill it soon enough

sorry you are ill jammy

Sorry to hear about Norty and Jammy feeling under the weatherm.

Norty - I fully sympathise with the anxiety, I have been back to the GP this week myself as have had to admit to myself, that my OCD is getting a bit out of hand again - I haven't really had a problem controlling it since I was 13, but since having the DCs it seems to have flared up again. I really hope they can give you something or the counselling helps - maybe they will refer you for CBT or similar?

Daisy - I recommended you for Rainbow Babies yesterday afternoon, and then emailed to tell you - the email has just been bounced back though - have you heard anyuthing from Rainbow Babies? If you don't hear by tomorrow, let me know and I'll try again.

jammy, there is another sickness bug going around, I've heard of a few people being struck with it. I hope you feel better soon.

norty, I'm seeing then doctor tomorrow so wil see what he has to say. I did notice that one of the side effects of the fluoxetine can be chronic fatigue so that n top of the pregnancy isn't helping. what your consultant said about people with anxiety rings so true with me. I had a real attack this afternoon when DS was kicking off in public; I just don't have the strenght to deal with him, and the more he stropped the more panicky I got thinking that everyone would think I was a really bad mother . I missed a few days meds as I left that at home over the weeknd, so that isn't helping. If it's just the pregnancy causing the tiredness I'm going to be fecking screwed in another 17 weeks!

On a lighter note......DD has discovered her nostrils and spent 10 minutes this afternoon in DHs arms picking her nose over his shoulder. He was chatting to someone at the children's centre (it was the official opening this afternoon) and didn't notice what she was doing. she then proceeded to offer him her fingers and he was pretending to eat what she was offering...and got a mouthful of baby bogies .....oh how I laughed

Hi FFF, glad there's someone about tonight, though I'll be off in a minute.

or two

LOL daisy.

Thanks for that fairy; I haven't had anything from them yet but I'll keep you posted.

I have henna tattoos all over my hands, and it looks lovely, if a bit on the orange side . Official opening of the childrens' centre today and they laid on a really good spread. The DCs had a great time and I got talking to a guy who ruins the Leeds credit union. They do small business loans at really resonable repayment rates, and they have grants as well. They also do child trust funds and the money is all invested back into the local community so that's what we are going to do with DDs....if we ever find the bloody thing!

Parents night tonight as well, and DS got a glowing report in spite of his recent issues. He had one of his hissy fits in the classroom though and his teacher was a bit as she had never witnessed it before. she said afterwards that she can appreciate how difficult it must be at home if that's how he behaves!

bugger, burnt the chick peas.

Living up to your name there Ria!
I usually do them an hour and a bit, till they're softish. If you bring them to the boil you can shorten the time they have to soak too.

hullo guys!

Evening all

Sorry I have been a bit sporadic recently, but I want you to know I am thinking of you all.

Norty, really sorry you are feeling so shit. I hope you get some time to yourself. Can you take any time off work? I got signed off for 2 weeks last time and it was the best thing I did. Just look after yourself, don't put too much pressure on yourself. You have done this once, and when I met you you seemed very relaxed, you can do this again.

Fury, I am thinking of you too. I really hope you feel better. You need to take things a bit easier, make sure you keep explaining to DH about how you feel. DS sounds fab, but a real handful. Do you have a piccie of him with his hobby horse?

Daisy, I know your DS is a handful too. Do you think there could be anything else going on for him? Does his diet affect his behaviour? I hope you are doing ok, and that things are ok with you and DH. He sounds like he is doing a great job looking after you but I know he can bow a bit under the pressure.

Ria, hope things are looking up for DH. What's his job situation? I'm not doing very well at keeping up.

Andie, hope your book is going ok.

DKMA, glad your horse box passed it's MOT. Hope work is going ok for you. Are you working full time? How are you finding it?

Jammy, sorry you are feeling ill, but think how good it'll be for your diet . Is your walk this weekend? I have sponsored you yet, I couldn't do it last time for some reason. Can you repost the link? Hope you feel better really soon.

Fairy, poor you. At least you have managed to recognise things. What can you do? Have you tried CBT? What's your trigger? You are doing a great drop, another one who needs to give themselves a bit of a break.

Screw a meet up with the kids - I wish I had enough money to take us all to a spa!

bless you bumper . DH is being a trooper at the minute; long may it last! I think DS is just a bundle of insecurity at the minute; it's tough being six. He can be so kind and thoughtful though; he wanted to buy me some flowers in the supermarket on Tuesday, then decided on a plant as it would last forever but the flowers would just die. It made me not mind at all that it was me who had to buy it. He chose it and that's all that matters.

that spa day sounds wonderful....maybe we should start a lottery syndicate

Have you seen VictorianSqualors thread in mental health? she isn't having a good time of it at the minute

Ria, that's precisely why I use tinned chickpeas....I always forget about things I leave on the stove

Hi fury....your DS sounds like a whirlwind. I'm impressed with his mobility; DS couldn't handle a hobby horse till he was three, and DD looks like she isn't ever going to walk...why walk when you can get there much faster on all fours?

fairy, I hope things get a bit better for you too, and at least you are recognising that things are getting a bit much. i think we can all be sooo hard on ourselves can't we?

had toms appointment today. he is being referred further. so im feeling a little sad that he isnt normal, and happy that it will be sorted... is that weird?

Hi Bumper, Natty, Sputnik and Ria

Spa sounds GOOOOOOOOOOD. Maybe when one of us wins the lottery.

Daisy, I'm glad the parents evening went well. Sorry that Ds is still being a terror - it must be nice that the teacher recognises it though.

Ria, I'm very of your making elderflower champage. I really, really wanted to try making cordial this year but the only tree that I know of, has been stripped bare alreay - I blame Hugh FW.

I'm not sure what triggers me, general stress and over-tiredness I think. It's not really, really bad and I can keep a lid on it most of the time but I do need to learn to cope with it, rather than supressing it really. The GP did mention CBT and she is referring me to The Priory - apparently they deal with a lot of the NHS' mental health work in this area. Not sure how long I'll have to wait for an appt though.

Hi Natty ...sorry to hear about DS but your feelings aren't weird at all. You must be overwhelmed with mixed emotions about it, but at least your worries about him can now be put into perspective and you can move on and deal with whatever the next step throws up. Fingers crossed for him.

bloody hell we are all going through the mill at the minute aren't we?

fairy u in croydon.. they referred me there too lol
to give you an idea i went docs in feburary.. still waiting..

Sorry Fury - I didn't mean to miss you out - Your DS sounds a bit bonkers, like mine

Natty - I'm sure it does make you feel sad but you are right that it is really good that it is getting sorted out - hopefully the'll be able to give you some tactics on how to best deal with his problems.

Daisy - bless DS. DD does that to me as well - infuriates me and then does something lovely that makes me think Ahhhhh.

BTW Bumper, did I see something about Foxy possibly not being able to have you to stay???? (or did I mis-understand?) - you are very welcome here, if it does fall through with her. Foxy, Andiem and I don't live that far from each other

i got dh results tomorrow too daisy.. i dont think i will be able to sleep tonight..

oooh, fairy, you might end up being bosom buddies with a bona fide sleb .

I hope things get easier for you soon. I have some mild OCD type things that I do, but it's never gone beyond repeating things (like I have to fill and empty a glass of tap water three times before I can drink from it) and never impacted majorly on my life.

Natty, I thought it might take a while! I'm in Teddington, so not that far from you.

im sure you will start to feel better soon. its hard, i was lucky mine seemed to be caused by the termination, so i have grieved and moved on. espescally with trying for another it helps me forget.. which prob sounds selfish but its the only other way i can see to break that newbaby/temination link i have at the moment. my friends get rather offended when i burst into tears when they have babies... lmao

I'm sure DH would go out foraging for you if you think elderflowers would cope with post fairy!

Hi everyone. Thinking of you natty.

Natty, fingers crossed for tomorrow.

FF, foxy isn't sure. I think the problem is she won't be able to explain me away to her DH . He may be away though. Thanks for the offer though, I'll let you know. Did we decide on a date?

Gotta go in a minute, DH wants the laptop.

Just a quick update on the genius that is DD. Earlier DH asked DD "where's your Boo?" (Boo is her cow, she can't say moo!) so she took herself off into the bedroom and found her cow and bought it back to DH!

oh bless bumper. they are so sweet just now aren't they.

It's funny ria, she just keeps getting better and better! I never look back and thing "Oh I wish she was XXX months again" I thought I would.