May 2007 - They are off and running, wobbling and falling down again.

[JamInMyWellies]

New thread needed.

Hellooooooooooo i have internet

Abby what are you like! Glad its only bruised. Hope it doesnt cause too much pain for you.

Totally manic weekend. Our friends left a few hours ago so now we have the house to ourselves (until tomorrow when the fitters are back in). They went to the theatre on Friday and dh took them with ds to the Farnborough Air Show yesterday and then today they were exhibiting their touring car at the local car show.

Had a friend over for lunch yesterday and she told me she was 5wks pg. I am so for her as she has been trying for about 9mths. I actually welled up when she told me. I feel very honoured as she hasnt told anyone, not even her parents. Am very excited but not enough to think about no.3!

Going to go and retrieve the cat from our old house tonight and try and get her settled here.

DH is taking the week off so that we can clear the old house and try and sort this one out. Cant say i am looking forward to it but i guess it does need to be done

LG&T if you feel you need to clean windows then please do pop in here, we have a few

LGT congrats on getting the school place

ABBY You party animal!!! glad its only bruised

AM good luck with the house sorting, fab news about your friend

MKG glad things are good atm - could you send some heat this way please, we have sunshine but its not very hot

Went for a picnic on dartmoor yesterday - it looked lovely and sunny, but was blowing a gale across the moors, dd needed her winter coat on and ds looked frozen - he wasnt but he looked it, so we went for a drive up to princetown to "look" at the moors, spectacular scenary, dp was supposed to return to work today but cant get his sorry arse out of bed

Morning all..

Nothing like a lovely beer injury Abby
Glad its not broken..

Blimey, £250 Just to get in your car TYG..seems a bit steep, but then no good having a car that you have to practically be a UN bomb disposal expert to get in I gues..

Good o re Jonah largegandt!Great news..Also many windows at ours to be cleaned.If you come and see TYG tomorrow may I suggest luncheon in Islington as then I can come too..and there is a very nice 'childrens cafe' up the road from my work which I want to go in (really to spy as when DH passes his exams we might look at getting some sort of business loan and setting one up near us-so you guys could help me be undercover!Also you would save me from certain death-by-audit as am doing my annual one these next two days and it will be deadly)

Youe chilly picnic on Dartmoor sounds very Famous five Lups..love it.

Glad you are OK, if hot MKG..

L has been nightmarish over the weekend.I really dont know what to do with her..can anyone tell me about their kids when they were two?..Yesterday L had 15 'class a' tantrums (the worst kind) and about 10 milder ones, apropo of nothing.She had her friend round and they played together OK, but she doesnt like sharing toys (fair enough she is 2.5) and that then set her off for the rest of the day.I am really worried she may actually be mentally ill..She just seems so angry all the time .And its having a negative effect on M who cant have a meal or a bath, or half an hour without having to listen to her screaming sister.And of course she will start to copy her soon which will be dreadful..We must be doing somehting wrong somewhere

Off to audit now, gaah!

LGT while I was snooping around on discounts/vouchers forums I came across this, cant see how long it is valid for, but migt be free gettaway for you and kids

www.hotukdeals.com/item/210932/showthread.php?t=210932&page=2

Forgot to say what fab news it is that J got into the school.

Superb news on the school front LG&T, what happens with the twins do you have to reapply for them?

AM bet oyur loving your house are the kids having fun running around?

TYG well did the full moon produce the precious prince?

LUPS tis not very sunny warm here either although the beeb just said that its going to be 30 by Friday , huzzah my new garden furniture arrives on Friday so will be donning my bikini and spending the day sunning myself, poor neighbours

So I had an absoloutely fantastic time with my BF our other friends did come down on Thursd eve but it was all good even though my hands smelt of garlic for 3 days as I had made so many meatballs was like a factory production line. We talked masses and her LO is so beautiful I hope I have a little girl. She managed to spend all of Friday with us too before dashing off to pick her DH up. Although it did make both of us really sad that we live so far away made me realise how much I miss her did have a bit of a cry on Fri eve.

Fab news Archie has learnt to say mama & dad this weekend oh and also has figured out how to climb on EVERYTHING!

We went to a great food place on Sat and am sitting munching my way through my second bowl of sugary loveliness that is Lucky Charms. Also have officaially turned into my parents we went to a garden center this weekend then spent yesterday weeding and tidying the garage. double

Oh Scoot poor you my love, why dont you describe one of L's mahoosive tantrums to us and lets see if we can work out a way to help you control what is happening.

Right back to the grindstone.

Sorry forgot to say Happy new house to AM..

Sounds a lovely weekend Jam..Im all for a bit of garden centering..there is a lovely one near us, its like the mother of all garden centres..you shoould come over and we will go..you will never want to leave though, I warn you..It stocks Cath Kidston and Sia and lots of other 'lovely' things and there is a lovely caff, and animals and a wee train for the kids..I would very much like to live there!

Lily-Well say she asks for something, and we say no..she chucks herself on the floor and screams violently for, an hour or more if we ignore her..or if we put her on the naughty step, screaming esculates..or if we try to reason with her she slaps and kicks and carries on screaming..Thus neither of the three approaches that we have been advised work actually work.We try not to give her own way all the time as I dont think its healthy but then sometimes we do, so she doesnt feel totally unempowered (for want of a better word)
Also we do try not to show that we are angry but sometimes fail..say after the third time in an hour or whatever-then we feel dreadful..
We make her say sorry for whatever she has done whenever she has calmed down and she does and she knows what she is saying sorry for, but 10 mins later starts again!It just feels like we are constantly telling her off or listening to her going ballistic at the moment

My Mother of course advises giving her a smack, but I dont agree with it, not sure what it shows other than that the answer to everything is to hit, and that you've lost your temper..What does everyone else think?

Blimey you will never get me out of there if it stocks lovely house type things.

In terms of L's behaviour I think you need to start from scratch first off is to completely ignore all behaviour that you dont like and when I say ignore I mean really dont even raise an eyebrow to it let her have all the things she wants dont rise to the bait at all. Do this for a wk and just see what happens. Try and see what her pressure/boiling points are then after a wk 10 days decide on what you both would like her to be like and be really open here dont expect too much atall start off with very small things. Pick one thing that she does that you dont like whether it is shouting no at you or brushing her teeth and stick religisouly to it trying to get her to do the one thing you want. This would be a really long drawn out process choose the one thing and stick to it for 2 weeks and dont try to discipline or correct anything else. Slowly after a couple of wks pick something else and just do it methodically. I know this is easy for me to say as I dont live in your situation but I think if you have tiny small goals it might be more realistic to reach than trying to tackle everything all at once. Mainly becuase you end up getting frustrated with L and yourselves and everyone loses their temper. Also you need to make sure everyone who spends time with L is on board with this otherwise everyone is working to a different point of view and she will be getting mixed messages. Does that help?

Hello all I'm destroyed today.

I was at work until 11pm last night installing a new computer system and I have to go in early today because so far I'm the only person that understands it.

SCOOT Iagree with JAM start from scratch, do you use a naughty spot/ corner type punishment, it worked wonders with Willow - gave her and me time to cool off, you do need to be consistent either a behavaiour is acceptable or it isnt - can you tell I am a fan of supernanny

MKG take it easy (wags fingers over pond)

Just been to the park this morning - gawd it was packed wit bloody kids!

Just uploaded some pics of my biffa son and scrawny daughter

grr bloody PIL said they would have the dog so we could go away at the end of Aug they have now changed their minds so we cant go away as kennels cost near on £200.

Scoot...... L sounds soooooooo much like Maddie..used to be!!!! ta da!!!

Do you remember the tales?..... honestly I really hated her some days! I could have given her away quite easily, she was rude, angry, stubbon, determined, hyper and all the rest. We tried EVERYTHING with her!!!NOTHING worked. Well, the naughty spot kinda worked for a few days until she decided it was not really a hardship, and more fun to do the naughty thing and send herself to the spot after!! Madame! I am pleased to say though that after a hourendous 6/8 mths she is just about bearable again now. She is much calmer, more reasonable, able to work out her emotions and feelings and talk and reason without it being the worst thing in her life to EVER have happened. I have relit my love for her and we do have some fun now. I hate to say it.... but it's a stage!!! just put in your earplugs, your blinkers and your hard hat and ride the ride with her...... she will get out of it.

Maddie will be 3 in two weeks time. Whats the next stage?

AM hows the new posh pad? Looking good? Will try to give you a call before we come back for the wedding. xx

Hope everyone else is ok.

Do I smell

ohhh meant to add, why have they changed their minds Jam? Do you not have a friend who would help? if it ruins your trip.

off to look at the chunky monkey and slinky princess.

x-post stinky Jam..... I couldn't have not really meant to add that, see 11 seconds after your post, I can't type and post that fast!!!! LOL

oops cross post.

have sorted dog issue using my saved child benefit to pay for kennels, think its justified childcare expense Archie needs a holiday?

good on you Jam!!! well done for saving it....... mines spent before it comes in.

x posting again MJB been bloody quiet on here today.

I have been shopping, too busy spending to chat

When do you need the wog looked after Jam?

OOOh what did you buy? (nosey emoticon)

Congrats on Jonah getting in BTW.

JAM your more than welcome to kennel here but it will probably cost you more in petrol - if it is cost effective (can you tell I dont own a car) then more than welcome as long as will get on with my old grump bag

Bless you, have got him sorted in a kennel not too far away and am using my child benefit rainy day money means DP wopnt get a b-day pressie this yr.

We just put a cheeky bid on ebay for a P&T vibe with dbl kit and the whole shebang and we won it! Amazed have got it for a vv good price guess we wont be eating for a few weeks to pay for it.

I dont mind having the dog either Jam..honestly-we have my Mothers crazy labrador all the time so it would be no bother..Then you can spend the child benefit on something lovely for the house

Will try what you said with L Jam..sigh..but I think the real trigger point is when we say no to her-which obviously we have to do-otherwise she would eat only chocolate, be in the park 24/7 and constantly try to feed Mae by shoving a spoon into her soft palate.

Im sticking to Mrs JB s reassurance that she will grow out of it.Otherwise im sueing you Mrs JB!

L took her pull up nappy off in the night and weed in her bed instead.I beg of you.Then she came in to tell us....So was up at 5 scrubbing the mattress and spraying it liberally with Febreze (we didnt have the mattress protector on as she was in a pull up of course).And M is in a grump as she has prickly heat all over her legs.

Have just discovered one of my customers was arrested last night for being drunk and disorderly in Crouch End (What he was doing there, Lord knows),undoing all my good work with him and 2 months being clean of booze and drugs.

I am NOT now in the mood to do my auditting.I am going to make a cup of tea and eat a biscuit and steal myself to get on with it.

SCOOT doesnt sound like a very good start to the day - I suggest eating the whole packet of biscuits wit adequate amounts of tea

JAM wow wee on winning the vibe well done you, remember beans and toast and a good spag bol are good cheap meals lol!

I am a little gutted, we walked down to the caravan park down the road from us yesterday, it is lovely - has pool, shop very neatly kept, lots of awards, playground for kids, dd wants to go camping so I said ok will investigate, my mum said se would love to come, dp says ridiculous - why go camping on your doorstep - I say why waste fuel travelling, its in the middle of no where it could be anywhere, however they have lots of room for our tent, but I thought I would look at the caravans, due to the reliable english weather and the are all fully booked - even after the kids go back to school all they have is the cottage or super luxury caravan - with heating, hot water ext which is v expensive and not what I call camping oh well looks like we are going to be freezing in the tent - at least if its too cold we can walk home - its only 20mins

Did a crazy clean up on the upstairs last night, am doing the downstairs today, my dad arrives tomorrow, I have a feeling his house is less than together with no female taking care of it and him, so at least he can stay somewhere nice, clean and comfortable for a week, altho I am sure e will be knackered, he has spent about 4hrs with dd and she half killed him lol!!