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April 2008 - the one where Scorpio and Millie show us all the 'through the night' trick

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Scampmum · 18/06/2008 14:00

Sorry if someone else has already started one - couldn't find it!

Much better night last night, maybe due to gripe water?

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Denny185 · 20/06/2008 12:35

If you go cold turkey do it when youv'e got the energy reserves as you could be in for a few unhappy days/nights. Maybe you could just start getting rid of it during the day so she learns to settle herself to sleep, it might then just roll over into night and she'll start to settle without it then too.

scorpio1 · 20/06/2008 12:36

3 day rule - things always take 3 nights - then get better.

Denny185 · 20/06/2008 12:47

Good rule Scorpio

Scampmum · 20/06/2008 12:55

No dummy ideas but for the flailing you could try swaddling? If I hadn't swaddled my two from birth I don't think they ever would have slept more than half an hour thanks to windmill arms.

Got the routine wrong, I think - no feed at 12. (Or I guess you can if still awake - E was falling asleep in spite of DD1's generous gifts of elephants.) She just woke up at 12.30 and I managed to get her back to sleep - result. Now just have to take DD and her pooey nappy to bed (well, the pooey nappy will go in the bin, of course) and I might get some time to myself!

Not going to Latitude, thought was a bit ambitious with two little ones and we didn't have the best time when we did Big Chill with DD1 aged 4 months, as we had, shall we say, misaligned priorities.

ooh bugger she's woken up. That nappy might have to wait

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VictorianSqualor · 20/06/2008 12:58

I swaddle Alex, and the two ngihts he was awake a lot he wasn't swaddled, last nght he was, coincidence?

Scampmum · 20/06/2008 13:30

Update - I cracked. The baby waited instead of the nappy (which was REvolting, and sandy, again - I think she must gobble up a handful every time she clocks no-one watching her in the sandpit), and fell back to sleep, but then woke up and no amount of settling would sort her out. So she's feeding 45mins early. Will have to ask the nurse tonight what I'm supposed to do in that circumstance! She seems happy now, though.

I used Dentinox cradle cap shampoo last night, having smothered her head in emollient 90 mins before as per advice from HV. It looks quite pinky today - is anyone else using it? I don't usually like to use harsh/SLS-containing stuff on their skin as DH has psoriasis and I am prone to eczema...

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scorpio1 · 20/06/2008 13:35

Cover her head in olive oil, overnight then brush off in the morning, then wash. Olive oil is great for their skin after a bat has well.

I am even more . my friend owes me £50 - she is 4 weeks late with it already...she said she was dropping it in this morning before she goes away for 2 weeks - am i £50 better off yet? errrrr, no. i dont really need it but thats not the point.

So, how drunk can i get later?????

scorpio1 · 20/06/2008 13:36

Also TMI: those of oyu whose periods have returned, are they really, and i mean really dark? and alot lighter?

Scampmum · 20/06/2008 13:39

I am doing olive oil after bath, maybe I need to start bathing more often? Nurse said government guidelines are now twice a week for bathing, which is interesting. Not sure what the age range is for that.

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scorpio1 · 20/06/2008 13:41

twice a week??? i do every other day. i do boys and dh does mimi

scorpio1 · 20/06/2008 14:35

i sent her a text. 10 mins later her h dropped it up.

i wasnt that rude

sagitta · 20/06/2008 15:03

No feed at 12, scamp? Whoops, I was following your routine! Doesn't seem to matter though, she still had one at 2.00... do let me know what nurse says when they feed earlier/ later and what you are meant to do. (I think I'm going to have to chip in for your maternity nurse so I don't feel guilty about using all your tips!)

You're probably right about latitude/ festivals. My priorities would definitely be wrong...

Ellie, definitely try swaddling...

About to try my first expressing...

Scampmum · 20/06/2008 16:16

I have cabin fever. DD2 has stayed awake, on and off, and fed, on and off, until now, when we're back on schedule (sleep 4 till 5), although she's asleep in the carrier as we WERE going to go for a walk but now it feels ominously like rain. DD1 keeps taking off her trousers and nappy and rubbing her bits (I think she may have a bit of thrush so have put canesten on them), she's also being really boisterous and when I tried to do time out she wouldn't stay on the step. She's now gone and sat in her buggy because we were supposed to be going out. I'm tired! I should probably TRY and take DD2 out of the carrier and put her in the moses basket to sleep (because yes, it is that easy ) then DD1 and I can play. OK, that's what I'll do. I must say, though, DD1 seems to be calming down in the buggy much more than she did on the naughty step. Thanks for listening!

Sagitta, I will happily share the wisdom with you (and the rest of the www) for nothing! I think the thing with the festival was that DH thought he could have it both ways - have me and DD there but also stay up till 7 and sleep till 1. I didn't so much enjoy being the only one up from 7 till 1! I would love to go to Latitude but think it's too early to leave DD2 for 60 hours or whatever and Big Chill put me off bringing her.

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PeachyWontLieToYou · 20/06/2008 17:20

twie a week for baths? Bas has less as I sponge him more- why do we need guidelines for that fgs? as long as they're clean!

What do I do all day? it varies, today school run, PA meeting (threy changed venue to the 5 * hotel aain so had to change first), get home 12.30 and wake dh, banking run, collect kids, dinner...... thinking about adding in a mums and babies exercise class as well.

Bas went 4.5 hours last night, pretty good.

Bas has had a personality transplant- suddenly the buggy is ok, the car is ok, and he will settle for small periods of time. Hurrah! He's a bit more down this pm though- that bloody 1oz of soya has made him constipated, grrrrrrrrr

Mum2BabyRoo · 20/06/2008 19:19

That exercise class looks fun Peachy - wish they had it in Orpington...

EllieG · 20/06/2008 20:06

Oh poo I was just congratulating myself on my wonder-child who went to sleep at 7.30 after perfect bedtime routine and now she's woken up. Damn.

Back later.....much later probably....[sighs]

VictorianSqualor · 20/06/2008 20:54

DS is still awake, he is having daddy time atm.
He is ready for bed, I'll feed him about half nine I think and put him to bed by ten.

Sal22 · 20/06/2008 21:28

Peachy, that looks really nice. I've been to a running mummies class (similar to your link, but just with running as well), but this one looks safer on the joints etc. Ok, if I'm honest, I just like this one better because it's on medical advice that I'd be walking instead of running, not because I just can't . I see there's a Wednesday one near me, will give it a try in 2 weeks.

Best of luck for a good night's sleep to all of you. I've got a stupid cold again. I think we all keep reinfecting eachothe. Now me and dh, really hope R doesn't get it again.

LadyBee · 21/06/2008 00:31

DS is doing 10-5:30/6 last few nights, which is great but messing with my expressing a bit. When he was waking at 3/4 I used to feed one side, express the other after I'd put him back down. Always felt completely confident that when he woke next feeding would be fine.
Now if I feed at 6, then express, he seems to wake up again at 7:30/8 anyway and I have The Fear that there won't be anything for him.
This morning I woke up before he did, so expressed one side before feeding him on the other - seemed to work ok, but I bet once I get used to him sleeping later in the morning I won't be waking up early..sleep is too precious!

Denny, sounds like you're doing an amazing job with the potty training.

DS's trouser habits appear to be changing, hopefully this is a phase? He didn't poo at all yesterday, so there was the most incredible explosion this morning..then no more for the rest of today. Not looking forward to tomorrow - wonder if I can get DH to take the first nappy duty

Scamp, every time I've tried to give gripe water DS has choked as well, don't know why, he takes infacol no problem. Am going to have a look for one of those medicine dummies too - didn't know they existed but sounds great. How did Bella know DD was tired at 7:15 and would sleep?
This bit of the day gets me every time - I never feel like I know what DS wants and usually just end up feeding and feeding him.

I've just spotted this thread about cerezette - have told OH to keep an eye on me. Hope I don't have any of the effects described, sounds terrible.

Today I went into town - fairly disastrous, although not because of DS, he was excellent. I just felt quite overwhelmed & stressed using buses. I ended up on one going the wrong direction, the brakes on my buggy kept popping off and then when I realised I was heading into east London rather in to the centre and rang to get off, my wheel got trapped in the door.
Took hours to finally get to John Lewis, then they didn't have what I needed in stock, refusing to let the trip be a complete write-off I picked up some hugely overpriced top/legging sets and then had to wait for ages in queue at which point DS finally realised he was about an hour overdue for his feed.
gah...next stop was Habitat, who have a lovely store on Regent street, which has stupid steps down to the main floor . Ended up having to take DS out of the pram (he is fast asleep at this stage), leaving pram at the other level & carry him around until I can find an assistant who then confirms that thing I want is... NOT IN STOCK. Gah gah gah.
Just managed to get back on train home before rush-hour. The whole time DS was fine, even when he protested his hunger, but I felt so worried that it was all going to go wrong, and that I was running out of time etc etc.
I guess it gets easier once you've done it a few times. Please say it gets easier..

Peachy - excellent news about new and improved Bas personality, long may it continue. That exercise class looks just the thing. I MUST find the sheet with the tummy exercises the hospital gave me - was told I could probaby start around wk 8 post C-section and I'm now a week late. Caught a glance of the jelly-roll that surrounds my tum when I was sitting on the bed in the front of the mirror the other day. Not pretty.
Might need to wait a bit for the walking though - I hurt my knee just swaying from side to side yesterday. I think my ligaments are still a bit loose.

scorpio1 · 21/06/2008 08:27

Just saying hi

Am having coffee and pain au chocolat for brekky, yum. Mimi did 10-645 last night. she seems to be protesting going past 7 the last few days, but hey, 15 minutes is close enough, and she goes back down, so all ok.

Ladybee - that sounds a nightmare! i think that was a bad trip time.....it does get easier!! Why is nothing EVER in stock though??

I think DH has said no to the Stokke, im going to order that white ikea cot & a lollipop lane bedding set. (pink, natch)

DH has gone to work this morning. Last night he grovelled - M&S dinner & wine, etc etc.

Sal22 · 21/06/2008 09:36

Good morning.

Scorpio - great news about DH grovelling! Sorry to hear that you couldn't persuade on the Stokke, but that white Ikea one is really lovely. My take on that argument was that it cost less than all DH's computer stuff etc, then he said that he thought it was ugly, so I lost that one. I still suspect he liked the look but just used it as an excuse not to pay that much! Oh well, you win some, you lose some.

Scampmum, can't wait for your update on last night's mat nurse. That sounds like such a brilliant idea - sorry to be stealing all your tips, but thanks a lot for sharing.

On contraception - I'm now booked in to have the Mirena Coil fitted on the 4th. Seems to be my best option. However, every now and again I consider skipping hormones altogether (don't want the copper coil though) and just taking my chances with natural methods... Well, we will live of bread and water, but having loads of kids won't be an all bad thing - I was one of 4 and thought it was just brilliant!

Niceychops · 21/06/2008 09:46

Ladybee I still havent gone anywhere with the stroller - too scared of having a nightmare with it! Hefty baby getting way too heavy for the sling tho.

Had a nightmare first time I had an awfully big adventure - to Richmond M&S! Jasmine went ballistic in the cafe and wouldnt eat - and there was a 60-something lady calling 'listen to your little one! She's TELLING you what she needs! Fresh air! That's what she needs! Oxygen!' I almost went on a rampage with a panini.

scorpio1 · 21/06/2008 09:51

lol nicey

i would of told her i'll give you what you need in a minute!!

Sal - i could of persuaded him but tbh im not that fussed, i can spend the money on other stuff
also i said to dh about using it for dc4 and now he says no again

SonicTheHedgehog · 21/06/2008 10:41

We beat mimi
10-8
he made a bit of a noise when DP opened the window at 4am but he went straight back to sleep.
I'm sorting my kitchen cupboard, what a bloody mess one of them is
I did the larder and food cupboard the otehr day but the cleaning cupboard is awful!

scorpio1 · 21/06/2008 10:43

how dare you!

(are you a namechanger?)