April 2008 - the one where Scorpio and Millie show us all the 'through the night' trick

[Scampmum]

Sorry if someone else has already started one - couldn't find it!

Much better night last night, maybe due to gripe water?

Afternoon all.

Peachy, where so you get time to manage 4 boys, PTA etc and fit in an exercise class? Looks good though.

Ladybee, each trip out gets easier as you start to take less and less each time and you get more used to how to do things IYSWM. Our trips out have started to get slightly more eventful again with the amount of toilet stops required and that I now have to carry potty, spare clothes, towel (to mop up any spliages), as well as the previous change bad etc. I guess if I was getting on and off buses i'd have to invest in a v large back pack

Scorpio, glad you and DH have made up again, I don't think Millie will be too upset about the cot

We went out for a curry last night, must have been the quickest trip out ever. DD2 was woken during meal - DS accidently kicked her car seat, she decided it was feed time and started crying and DS was brewing a poo and asked for toilet 4 times in the time we were there. So after a v quick shovelling of food down faces we admitted defeat and came home. Still it was a lovely meal and good to all get out together.

We had a good night last night too 9 till 6 then back to sleep till 9. DS didn't get up till 8.45 either so I had a massive sleep and feel v refreshed today.

DS and DD2 both asleep again and DH in bed - on nights and DD1 playdoughing so thought I'd make use of valuable time and MN

Ooops
I forgot to change back
Have you seen Sonic's bird thread?

Ooh I am off to a first birthday party - dd of my friend from when I was young and out every night - might bring about midlife crisis!!

And all her other friends will be v stylish and well-groomed - fret fret. So I have blow-dried my hair.

well done Niceychops - blowdrying hair is a true sign of Making an Effort - your friend will appreciate it, even if none of the other friends understand

I haven't had any 'well-meaning' comments from old ladies yet but I live in fear of a meltdown while out in public. Closest I've come was on the train back home when DS really needed a feed, I ended up getting off the train and sitting on Greenwich platform feeding him (it was my first time in public too) - feeling hugely anxious on the inside but pretending to all the world that I did this every day and knew exactly what I was up to. Still don't know whether I'd be brave enough to feed on a train if I needed to.

oh bugger. I've forgotten to take my pill.

I've decided to do another mission into the city asap but this time wear DS. Just need to find a bag I feel comfortable wearing with him on my front. Hopefully the sling will let me feel less limited - buses are bad enough, but the tube is another story all together. Will take him in sling and try to observe other mothers to see how they do it. Honestly can't remember seeing any mums with buggies on the underground, but that was probably because

1. They most likely came out during working hours and disappear before rush starts.
2. I was a typical commuter and avoided taking notice of anyone on the tube, let alone struggling mums.

Ladybee could you use the stroller but take sling for the tube? Some of the strollers have carry handles/straps so u could get it up and down escalators more easily. Knitter put a link up on the last thread for her sling which folds down to nothing so you could easily slip it in your change bag.

Mind u by sounds of it u might need a sling and back pack in 9 months time

I have breastfed on the train - never thought I would be capable of it! But hey, for a peaceful life...

denny congrats on the sleep!! Your curry night sounds erm.....eventful!! Sometimes it's just not worth it is it?? Could your mum babysit and give DD2 a bottle of EBM so that you and Mr Denny could go out just the two of you???!!!

Hope you are continuing to feel refreshed after your big sleep, I'm feeling that too today after DD2 did the same....long may it last!!

Denny that thought should have filled me with dread and yet it's actually srangely appealing.
I was seriously thinking about looking up the terms of my mat leave to work out what would happen if I were preggers again when i was supposed to go back. All i know is that i have to return for at least 5 months or pay back the money... my brain isn't quite up to doing the date calculations.

hi all

denny- i seem to hae loads of time as boys in school but only for stuff i can do with bas, hence class is ideal i think!

bught bas a bumbo today seeing as hes not far off 3 months and has the head control of a 5 year old (bizarrebaby), he adores it! grins a plenty!

and the formula-induced constipation noticeably resolved itself (yuck)

not getting bas weighed at baby club any more, dh is coming to the clinic with me instead. hva not always there, so worth it even if it straight after club and often has a 2 hour wait (gulp)

we were talking about bumbos today, weird.

So is it 3 months you can use the bumbos then? A friend has leant us one, sat DD2 in it for a few mins the other day and shes got pretty good head control in it but thought she was prob a bit young so havn't used it properly yet.

Luckymummy, funny you should mention the bottle, DD2 hadn't had a bottle for about 3 weeks, with DH shifts it was just easier to feed myself and couldn't be arsed to express. Well now she's having a little spell of not accepting the bottle at all, has a screaming hissy fit after a couple of mins Just trying to do an ounce a day at the min in anticipation of getting out for our wedding anniversary next week. Mum may be having some fun with her I think.

Ladybee, not another one thinking about the next LO, your all barking mad

We've been out to a friends bday bbq today, v nice time and 2 bottles of cider (little ones) later I feel quite tipsy, what a light weight!

I'm going to try to express every mornig now. Mimi has been on my boob all day so DH is giving her a bottle now to rest me!

You can get bumbos from my toy library here, think i will do it that way - just a couple of quid a month.

Hiya,

Can I join in? I have been following posts for a little while, including the ante one as I was due in April, but with LO going 10 days over..ended up with a May baby instead!! Congrats to everyone and thanks for all the good advice I have already gleaned.

I had a little girl (a 2nd DD) on May 9th..so she is 6 weeks old now. All is going really well, except for bedtimes! If anyone has any pearls of wisdom I would be grateful! DD1 is 4.5 and I can't remember...

We have tried to get a bedtime routine going bath, feed, bed...I have varied the times from 7 - 9.30 depending on how much sleep she has had and I seem to be getting nowhere. She is tired, and goes down for maybe 30 mins (sometimes only 5) and then suddenly is screaming, and apparently wide awake. She is not hungry and seems to just want to be up, when really, I want her to be in her cot (and I think she needs to be there). Also, it means she is going down late (about 10.30 - 11) and is really tired the next morning until after lunch.

Any ideas anyone - when she does go down she is brill, sleeps sometimes until 6 but routinely until 4.30, has a quick feed and back down until 7.30/8am with no worries. I know I prop shouldnt be complaining..so sorry!!

Hope you don't mind me joining in at this late stage!

Charlie

Welcome CharlieOD, have you tried the baby whisperers sush/pat technique (explained on her web site) DD2 does this, more so with day time sleeps, I turn her on her side and use this technique to calm her back down. Used to take about 45 mins to get her back off, now if she does wake and can't resettle herself usually only takes about 5 mins to get her off again. The other thing is to try and put them down awake and I find this happens less, think if they go down asleep they can wake thinking 'shit where am I' and freak a bit.

Scorpio, you have a good library, thats a great idea coz they dont get used all that long.

've just watched some billie piper thing on BBC1, thinking through out it 'gosh that boy looks like my old school friend'
It was bloody him!!!

Ooeerr, you know 2 famous people now then

VS I just watched that thing, who was the character you knew?

Hi CharlieOD - my DS is exactly the same. I'm feeling chuffed that I managed to make him go to sleep tonight at 8:30 after putting him down at 7:30. We'd done bath, a good feed which made him v drowsy, he was yawning and still the moment I put him down he decided that actually he was wide awake and would like to play. First I tried giving him my finger to suck as that often works (and am trying to avoid dummy - more on that later), then I did gentle jiggling, shushing etc which lulled him until I was just about to leave and his eyes sprung open again. Round two I tried jiggling/shush and it didn't work at all, tried the finger and he went off almost immediately. So odd.
I don't know whether that is helpful at all, except to suggest trying different things at different times and to know you're not the only one!

hah! Just jinxed myself...can hear DS waking now

ohh..what an excellent boy, he settled himself and is back asleep

Someone tell me about bumbos please, what, why & when?

I think using a dummy, even only occasionally, with DS is making him want to keep his mouth sort of pursed & closed when feeding..I've been finding it quite hard to get him to open his mouth recently and I think that's why my nipples are tender & pink. HV took a look at them last week and was really certain they didn't look thrushy (and DS has no sign of that), and I've been looking on the BF threads and I think he's not getting enough in his mouth and they're rubbing on the hard palate. I'm trying to make sure I wait til his mouth is really open, but he seems to adjust himself to close his mouth when he's on. So I'm going to have a go at not using the dummy this week and see if that helps, and will also take myself off to one of the breastfeeding cafes/support things.

Thanks Denny,

I must get the baby whisperer book and educate myself...Ladybee thanks for reassuring me I am not alone, it does make me feel better!!

I put DD down at 7.45...and she FINALLY gave up to sleep at 10.20.... We have decided we need to at least be consistent...and not keep bringing her up and down .....I feel mean, but I was up and down like a yo-yo and while she was crying, it was stop start and more shouting than anything iykwim? She had no wind, wasnt hungry and had clean nappy so was comfortable. Well done Ladybee on an hour ...fingers crossed it will get easier day by day!!

Charlie

bumbo says 3-14 months though my sis struggling at 7 as lo keeps escaping!

Given bas's size i reckon should last until puberty here.....

off to see mum in a mo, its her 6oth this week. she can'twait for her bus pass lol, they cant drive

welcome charlie

you're dong better than me- still no routine for ds1 and he's eight lol

how nice to see others awake at this time on a sunday morning! makes me feel almost human!

blimey! DS slept 8:30-5 last night, then back down at 5:45 and slept on to 7:45. Spent from 10-11:30 waiting for him to wake up (and watching old Buffy episodes) then gave up and expressed instead, convinced I'd be up at 1am. Hope we can do it again
Also hope the cold I seem to be brewing doesn't go any further.