April 2008 - the one where Scorpio and Millie show us all the 'through the night' trick

[Scampmum]

Sorry if someone else has already started one - couldn't find it!

Much better night last night, maybe due to gripe water?

Thanks, i will think about your suggestions at a better time.

I am a bit sad tonight. DH keeps swearing at me and he banged the table at me. I'm sitting here crying. i keep asking him to stop but he says im sensitive - im not i just dont want to be sworn at. i dont swear at any of you or my friends but he just told me to fuck off (nastily).i was bf-ing when he said it which makes it worse to me.

Sorry

Scorpio, hope you sort it out soon. I had a massive rant at DH yesterday as I couldn't park on the drive (he'd parked too far over) and had to get 3 kids out the car and days worth of bags, DD2 needed feeding and DS needed toilet. So after unloading car, feeding etc I stomped out the house for half hour. Normally wouldn't bother me but 10 weeks worth of night feeding have caught up so on return we had a big 'I'm not bloody superwoman, need help with kids and around house etc' talk. So far he's pulled his finger out his arse and has helped a bit more, we will see how long it lasts - I have a feeling it won't be the last time I spit my dummy over the next few months

VS - I see you and DP had a spat too, it's joyous being tierd and less tolerant than normal isn't it? Can't believe Alex is already cutting a tooth BTW is that why he's waking more in the night do you think?

Ladybee, love the pics. Re waking babies in the am, I wake DD2 at 7am to feed her B4 i get DD1 and DS up and ready for school run, otherwise have to feed her with DS jumping all over me, it's much calmer that way. Would say if it's your first and your in no rush to get in a routine (ie getting back to work) then go with the flow and sleep as long as you can in the am. As for BLW, my first 2 had puree foods as B4 6 months so not a clue sounds like VS will be the adisor on that one.

Sagitta to a no crying day, things are looking up.

Peachy, Bas can roll, wow how advanced is he!?! Pants about DS3 and the milk, you don't have much luck with his school do you?

Scorpio loving the cot BTW v posh

Scamp, hooray to improving nights, re getting the gripe water in, have you seen the medicine dummys so the LO's just suck it out in their own time. I got one from tesco (a larger store). Or put it in a teat and let her suck it out?
YEAH to DD1 peeing in her potty!!

Well that serves me right for not coming on for a few days there was loads to read through. Had a busy few days with friends over, toddler groups, Cheshire show and DD1'a sports day. DD2 has gone from sleeping through 3 nights last week from 8 till 7 to waking during the night again, twice last night, it would be nice if they did something consistantly wouldn't it. She's also upped her feeding again, she had dropped down to 4-5 feeds in 24 hours and is now back up to 7-8 feeds so ob more hungry again.

DS has been dry for 1 week apart from one incident - he undid his straps in the buggy and climbed out without me realising so I ran him over as well - think he wet himself with the shock of it (as did I but through laughter [v bad mummy]). Were having some probs with the poo's though as he has toddler diarrhoea (sp?) so most goes in the potty but lots of little escape bits B4 and after. Still really can't complain he's generally doing a really good job.

Right after that essay I need to do some tidying B4 bed

10-6 Ladies
10-6!!!
Wooooooohooooooooo!!

Scorpio for you.
I totally understand, I'm a right sap when it comes to the way DP speaks to me, he only has to sound a little curt and I start telling him how I don't like to be spoken to like that and expect to be treated as though I'm special

Denny, how the heck did you manage to remember what to type?? I read one or tow posts and forgert the rest!

Scorpio - for you but in a way I hope it's good to know there are others the same - certainly helps me! DH threw Makka Pakka at me the other day. I know I am winding him up but I have to keep saying 'please don't swear at me, I don't swear at you'. Especially in front of DD!!

VS, well done on the night, still haven't registered my and [awe] at the middle of the night oven-cleaning mission! I open another tab and open the thread again to remind me what I wanted to comment on! Still miss stuff half the time, though.

WELL, the maternity nurse was here last night, she is lovely, very sweet and clearly loves babies. Feeding was a bit up the spout last night as she fed at 6, 7 and 8 and then I went to bed at 9.40ish after a chat with Bella who got here at 9. She fed her expressed (I put 5 in the bottle, she only had 3 at around midnight, woke me around 3.30 (I had asked her to wake me for 2nd feed), was back in bed by 4 until 6.20 when she was kind of hungry but kind of needed a poo. Fed her until around 7.15 when Bella said she was tired and would go down until 10 - I was but she was down by 7.30 and is still asleep now! Have even tidied house, feel great.

Tips were -

1. we are swaddling her in too small a sheet
2. make sure I really finish each feed - I thought I was as she's pretty decisive about when she's finished but she had more hindmilk at the feed Bella was supervising
3. wind her immediately but put her down if she's asleep
4. use vaseline on her bum - was using nothing
5. introduce (no cry) routine during day - basically feed 6.30-7.30, sleep till 10, feed, play, feed again around 12, sleep till 2, feed, play till 4, sleep till 5 and, erm, I guess I find out the rest tonight!

I am so chipper. It is totally worth the money so far.

Sagitta, how are you doing? Congrats on the no cry day, crying does make trying to do anything 100x more stressful, I think. DH may have a spare ticket for Latitude - will keep you posted!

Oh, and Denny, thanks for the tip on the medicine teat, sounds great, will look today when I go shopping for babygros that aren't too small (another tip the maternity nurse gave us... ).

have been expressing without watching (supporting pump with left wrist while I type [smug]) and have done more than 5oz from one boob!

Well done you!
I expressed a good 5ozs straight off this morning as well, took a while to get the last 3 but I did it!
I don't use anything on Alex's bum either, I use zinc&castor oil cream as soon as it gets a bit red but that's it so don't be too !

Still asleep !

Well done you too on the expressing. Do you feed Lex from one boob then express the other? Does DP do the last feed at night? If so, he can use the time to tell Lex all his work traumas so he doesn't need to tell you . If I can do a bit later (have 2.5 left from yesterday) I can leave two 4oz feeds for tonight and I could have 10-6 too!

I've only just started expressing so I have the milk for next weekend for DP's mum.
If it keeps up being this easy though I may start expressing so he can do a feed, he tells me too all the time!
He always says 'well, if you'd just express I could help more' but I'm too lazy
This morning I didn't start the expressing with Alex on the other boob but I did some of it with him on, I had literally just woken up and everyone else was asleep so I came downstairs and started to express before Alex woke up properly (he'd had a small feed and gone back to sleep) then when he did wake up I put him on the other breast.
For some reason I can only express well from one side, the righthand side doesn't like the breast pump!

Hi everyone! sorry for bad manners, never introduced myself. My little girl Jasmine was born 9 April. She seems to be nice and assertive thus far!! I am just starting to find it a bit odd being at home all day (lovely though she is). This is a stupid question, but what does everyone DO all day? highlight of mine is going to Tesco!

We MN!
9 April was my due date, and my Dad's birthday.
I think the highlight of my day is probably talking to other mums on the school run
Oh, or Eastenders

(I cried at it last night)

me too - left boob is superboob. Weird! I can express some from right but never as much.

She's still asleep! If she wakes on the dot of ten then I will follow what the nurse says to the letter!

Sorry Niceychops - we go to the park, pick up DD1 (2) from nursery three days a week, see people (random selection from NCT to friends of friends), nearly ready to go into town and meet people.

With just DD1 used to go on long walks a lot as this was the only way to settle her. Did find it hard and much more isolating, though. Next Weds might be a good start for a trip out!

I've always been a bit wary of 'maternity nurses' especially after all that claire verity stuff but seems she is giving good advice!
At least anything that sounds odd you can just MN and check it out

VS I would like to say it's my amazing photographic memory, however it's not, if I have so much to catch up on I have a little pen and paper by the PC

Scamp, Bella sounds like she was well worth her money, is that the most sleep youv'e had since LO was born?

Well DH was doing a night feed last night while I went in spare room. After listening to DD2 cryin for an hour I got up anyway. The lights were on, the TV was going no wonder she wasn't settling. So instead of being up for the normal 20 mins night feed was up for 2 hours. V helpful

Niceychops, coffe mornings, toddler groups, gym tots, walks, school runs, copious amounts of washing, MN, housework.
Debating re-starting aqua aerobics

Sounds like most of us had a good night! A slept really well - i fed her at 11, 2 and 5, but she went straight back to sleep afterwards...and she's been smiling and cooing this morning.

Sorry to hear about your spat with dh, scorpio. my dh - who was at a work do all night on wed, spent last night in the pub - without telling me he was going to. So i've demanded a lie-in tomorrow - he is going to take A and get up dd1 - the first time he will have looked after both. it'll probaby be only for an hour, but thats better than nothing.

Scamp - bella sounds great, and you sound chirpier! I am going to try to follow that routine today, and all the tips. i have a feeling one of my problems is that the moses basket is too small...
ps are you going to latitude?

my left boob is superboob too, lol. i keep forgetting to express

feeling really delicate today. told dh last night if he doenst stop im going. i tried talking to him and he laughed at me when i was crying ; so i told him that and he soon stopped. i mean it though, i dont want to live with someone who swears at me, ridicules me and bangs things at me.

we are 'friends' now but i feel like such a fucking mug, going into town to pay his child maintance in & picking u[ his asthma pump

Mimi went 9-630

Many hugs to you scorpio. Having a new baby is massive strain on a relationship - not that it's an excuse for bad behaviour - me and DP have never argued as much as we do now at times. We try and talk it through and discuss things properly but we've had some humungous rows. I hope you and your DH sort it out, and in meantime have many hugs from us x

Hello niceychops! Welcome here. I am a bit infrequent at the moment as I can never find time as I am horribly disorganised, but am getting there!

Molly slept 8.30 - 3.30 and then basically back to sleep til 6, but then wouldn't settle properly. She slept, but her dummy kept falling out and she would start flailing around and wake up. Seems she doesn't sleep so deeply after that first feed. Feeds again at about 6 and then sometimes goes back to sleep, sometimes not.

Does anyone have any tips about settling them to sleep without a dummy? I think Mols is getting a bit reliant on hers and I am soooo fed up of getting up every half hour after 3/4 am to put her dummy back in.

Does anyone else's LO flail their arms around loads when overtired? She also pulls her ears - makes me laugh but is a pain as if she would just keep still would be easier for her to get to sleep, silly muppet.

It's my 30th birthday on sat and I thought it was going to be really crap but DP has just told me he's organised a babysitter and he's taking me out! Bless him. I think it might be cos he can't put up with my moaning any longer, poor man

Sorry Ellie no useful dummy tips, DD1 didn't sleep a full night till we got rid of her dummy (2 1/2) thats why DS and DD2 havn't had them.

Yeah to your DH and his organisation skills, hopeyou have a fab night planned

Maybe I should go cold turkey on the dummy?

Alex hasn't really taken to his dummy, he never uses it when sleeping so no idea. Sorry.

Millie doesn't really do dummy very well, its like she doesn't know what its for.