Dec 2007: Gummy grins give way to teething tyrants

[claraquitetirednow]

How about this?

yes me too with the lively baby spinning in the cot and getting legs trapped in bars. Dd1 was very still as a baby (and still is) - we would find her in the same position she went down in in the morning. dd2's cot looks like the London Blitz after a nap - teddies and blankets all thrown around and her usually face down, upside down, in the corner with a Taggies blanket over her head....

...hmmm, cot bumpers, might be a good idea (Amani - not sure how old they can be but she seems pretty robust now so I'm not so worried about these things as when she was newborn).

I read that bumpers shouldn't be used until the bay can lift its head, and should not be used after it can sit up unaided.
I've took mine out, coz it was a PITA and ds just kept pulling at it.
Tried Ds on some Peach and Banana porridge, he wasn't too keen on it.

Afternoon
Just gave ds his first organix rusk, he grabbed it, put it straight to his mouth bit off about half of it and promptly gagged! He kept going with it though and has mushed it all over his hop and pop-next time I'll put him in the highchair!

Buzzy dd just would not be spoonfed so thats why I'm not even going to bother trying with ds. I'll use a spoon for porridge, yoghurt etc but hopefully he'll do it himself and we have missed out the puree stage

Bloody HV's-took ds to be weighed today so I can say he got to x on just bm (and a random green bean!)and she basically told me off for waiting til now to wean! He is still on the 9th % which is where he had dropped to last time and she said "does he eat much?" I said I hadn't started solids yet but was going to this week and she looked really shocked then went "Oh well yes you better had start" Then she asked how much milk he drank and I said "I don't know he is bf but he feeds a lot so I'm not worried about his intake" and she said that was why his weight gain was low and that bf babies usually need to be weaned earlier as breastmilk isn't enough. At that point I said that as far as I was aware bm contained all he needed for AT LEAST the first 6 months and she kind of backtracked and said "yes it does but mum doesn't always produce enough so usually breastfed babies need supplementing past a few months". Talking out of her arse methinks.

Whizz don't worry, ds still doesn't sleep either!

BT don't feel bad, it happens to all of us at some point, I think I've said before that dd rolled off my bed once and climbed the stairs and fell down them because I didn't realise she could climb them. In fact just yesterday I could hear her playing by the front door (she likes to play with the shoes)and then after about 15 mins she called me and when I went to look she was actually outside the door not inside it!
God my heart stopped, I was shaking, if I'd stopped being able to hear her it would have still been a few minutes before I thought to check and she could have been anywhere by then. The door is normally locked anyway which is why I let her play by it but I must have forgotten to lock it yesterday-will be double checking from now on.

RE bumpers, dd had one from birth and ds from about a month ago, I think as long as they are tied securely the danger of suffocation is minimal and as long as they aren't too rigid they shouldn't be able to use them to climb out of the cot.

Yep ds is crawling (should've mentioned that to the hv as another reason why he might not have put on loads of weight-too active), he goes forwards now too but veeeerrrry slowly and he often uses his forehead as an extra limb!

Oh and BT I've actually bought some formula for cereal etc-no way I can be bothered to express. Will probably just use cows milk (not to drink, on cereal) after a couple of months but to begin with it is nice to know they are getting the extra vitamins etc.

Can you use cow's milk then? I wasn't too sure!

Am at that HV - I would have told her she was talking bollocks I'm afraid .

afternoon all!
clairey or maybe at your HV, seems to spout as much rubbish as mine. I'm taking dd down to get weighed either tomorrow or next wed for the same reason, and expect to have the same conversation! (although i can be quite smug with her now, after all the pressure to put dd on formula, she has gone from 0.4th at birth to 25th now!)

re solids - dd so so so not interested! unless it is a rice cake!! i want to mainly blw but i would quite like her not to turn her nose up at jars etc in case we get caught out somewhere etc so I've tried a bit of both...she will pick up the food and put it in her mouth, but the only thing that doesn't immediately then get chucked away is a rice cake! the purees she seems to hate with a passion but will tolerate a bit of baby rice which is good as i need to do the odd half day back at work this week so dh can give her that as she is still crap with a bottle!

what sorts of foods are people having success with?

oh speaking of food, was it macdoodle who also had a bottle refuser? or dundee? dd has finally taken 1-2oz from a Mothercare bottle with a nuby teat, worth a try!! she has rejected everything else, i must be the only bf-er who owns at least 20 bloody bottles!

well done to all the crawling babies!! dd not interested thankfully, she can roll and that's about it!

macdoodle we are halfway through term 2 of waterbabies, dd loves it! i didn't go to the photoshoot, too expensive, but if you can afford the photos are amazing!! the only thing i would say to be prepared for (other than the price ha ha!) is that the girls felt the babies were under for much longer than usual - we are at the stage of letting them go when under now (!) but even then it must be 2-3 seconds at the most. one dh counted and said for the photos it was 6-8 secs, which is still not long but seemed VERY long when someone else has your baby under the water!! A couple of the babies who have never cried, cried at that. but they do have the most amazing pics!!

dundee how is the CC going? dd's sleep is pretty awful too, BUT just wanted to say for all of you who are getting hourly wakenings etc - I think we might be out the other side of that now, so hang on in there!! (famous last words I bet!). we've had TERRIBLE sleep for at least 6 weeks, 1-2hrly feeds etc. Just in the last week it has calmed down, I now feed at 7ish, 11ish, 3ish, then she wakes at 6ish but isn't looking for a feed until 7ish. I know to some people that probably still sounds like a nightmare but atm it feels like bliss to me. anyway everyone says 4-6mths is a dodgy stage for sleep, and as i think as my dd is one of the older ones here maybe it is just something they get past? HOPEFULLY!

bath time....

Oh - cot bumpers - i've heard mixed things too - just sticking to using baby sleeping bags as she can't get too caught up that way (and I don't have to buy bumpers!!). the one nap she went in without the bag she got in a terrible state all wrapped around the bars!!

erm not sure actually...you can use it in cooking but not sure about on cereal. Anyone?

Claireybee - hmmm, cows milk, I too am confused. I just looked it up and it seems to say its fine to use in sauces etc but not as a main drink (which I already knew). However it doesn't say whether to use it on cereal. For now we are still using formula on cereal etc but today I gave her some plain yoghurt mixed with apple mush so I guess that's her on dairy.

caz - I assume you have tried a variety of purees, eg the sweet vegetables (sweet potato, carrot, squash etc) which usually go down well, as well as fruit? We have had sucess with toast (with flora and marmite but perhaps I should just do butter!) and also those Organix carrot sticks which she enjoyed mushing up in her mouth. She seemed to like the rice cake today but not sure how much of it actually went down.

Oh and she's also enjoyed grass and houseplant leaf.....

Hello everyone,

My dd is also getting in a pickle in her cot and I have resorted to cot bumpers... but I do tend to check up on her regularly until she is asleep just to make sure she is OK.

Re cows milk, I thought it was too early other than in food e.g. cheese etc. at this stage but not sure at what point it is OK.

Re sleep, dd is a disaster still ... she just does not seem to have much of a pattern ... waking up at different times each night, just to keep me guessing.

And at the moment she is really constipated ... I think it is too much baby rice and not enough water. I have been giving her just apple puree for the last couple of days but so far not too much impact. Poor little mite!

Morning everyone

Is anyone else finding that there lo's are a bit unsettled atm?
Ethans usually so good but yesterday it was impossible to settle him, he's been the same this morning, he's whinged since he got up, he's had a bottle, had cereal, been changed, winded, had juice, had stuff on his gums, i just can't settle him. On top of that ds1 has been up since 4.30 this morning so im trying to get him to have a nap but he wont go off either
I just dont know what to do

re cc - not meant to pour salt in wounds of those still being woken every hr or two, but so far so good and on night four dd went from 8:30 to 4 w/o bf, just wanted dummy twice (which dh does, and i would have fed her!) then back to sleep until half six.
at clairey's hv! mine phoned yesterday to make sure i was ok (she thinks i am depressed - sooooooo not the case, i just disagree with her ) and she said for constipation try orange juice, diulted. but, i thought, isn't that on the list of 'don'ts'? hmm. this is the same hv who said dd couldn't possibly be teething, 10 days before first teeth emerged, and that all the dribble was because she wanted food. hmmm.

fifi - sorry you've had a rough start to the day. here's hoping it gets better!

keep forgetting what wanted to say and walking away from laptop!

question of the day - how long is my hair going to keep falling out for, and is bald a good look for summer?

Caz that's nice to know. DD is one of the youngest here (b 30/12) so we may be a few weeks away yet of dropping some of these night wakings...having said that she must have heard me writing last night as we actually had quite a good night (by comparison) and today felt quite a bit better.

So far we have tried bread, cheese and corncake which she has a good go at. Am thinking I might try cooking up a vege mash and adding some cheese since she seems to like cheese. The only puree I've got into her is banana&pear which I don't want to turn into a habit. In 4 weeks she will be at creche and they have a permanent on-site chef who cooks nice healthy foods fresh every day there so I'm guessing/hoping she will start following the other babies.

Ds has been very unsettled last few days, I've been pretty down about out as all he seems to do is whinge.
His sleeping is atrocious - put him down at 7.15, he woke up at 8.15pm, 9.30pm, 10:45pm, 1.30am, and 3.40am. All wakings needing a feed. Lat waking he wouldn't go back to sleep in his cot so he came into bed with us, and slept to 6:45am. He's not long been awake from a 2 hour nap this morning, and am about to give him some lunch - roasted sweet potato and mushed sweet potato, plus some melon for afters. Don't know how much he'll eat though

Hi all

Not been on for ages and trying to catch up with your messages!

at your hv, clairey. Sounds like a lot of rubbish to me. My hv who is actually quite good told me the complete opposite - bf babies tend to need weaned later. I only started my dd on baby rice when she was 23 weks and she was excl bf until she was around 20 wks so that seems to fit in.

DD is 6 months on Friday - I can't believe how quick it's passed! She's a bit irritable today, I think she is getting another tooth ( she has 2 already!) as she has a red face and is constantly sucking her fingers.

DS didn't like the sweet potato much, will put him on baby rice again.
I'm thinking that maybe DH should offer him new foods, though that could be difficult as he is never fecking around

BT - keep at it, you often have to ofer the same food a few times before they take to it. Don't give up! He'll get into it eventually. Perhaps if his sleep is bad he's teething too - which may put him off food.

If you're doing baby rice, mix it in with some fruit or veg to get him used to a new flavour.

My baby is 6 months old today. I can't believe it's been six months since I gave birth. Where oh where has that time gone????

Wow happy half birthday to your dd Claraq!!

BT - I remember it taking a few attempts to get ds1 to eat different things, he refused a couple o times then decided to eat it, i must admit Ethan hasn't refused anything yet, i think he eats whether he likes the food or not

Clara - I know what you mean, Ethan is 6 months on Friday...its scary how quickly the time goes by.

Well my day has picked up a bit, eventually got ethan settled and he's now been asleep in his cot for about a hour, i think he was just over tired. He wont give into sleep as much during the day, he's too busy seeing whats going on.

I just hope he's ok on friday as ive got bf's dd again

Also, is anyone's lo not sitting or rolling yet??
Ethan can get so far over then gets stuck, and he cant quite sit just yet either on his own.

Fifi - yes, ds rolls onto his side.
He'll sit up if his hips are supported but he tends to lean very far forward.

No real sitting or rolling here yet - can kinda sit propped with pillows but usually topples forwards or sideways...kinda half rolls onto side but thats it - though does tend to wiggle round in a circle She is one of youngest though born 28th Dec...and also very very fat so not surprised she can't as fat legs and neck get in way

Well day ds had porridge for breakfast-he really enjoyed playing with the spoon but dribbled most of the porridge back out again! He tasted a bit of plum-yuk face- but at a friend's birthday party this afternoon he munched his way through a whole breadstick and would've had more if I'd let him. Think the change has upset him a bit though as he's been quite clingy and will only nap in the sling today.

Caz I think you may be right re 4-6 months nightmare! DS was 6 months yesterday and the past couple of nights he has slept a bit better (still waking every 3 hours or so but sooo much better than hourly!) and my boobs suddenly feel really full of milk again and when he pulled off mid feed he got a faceful-that hasn't happened for quite a while! I know full boobs isn't ideal but I think it is just where he has increased my supply over the past few weeks.

Oh and last night I was showing dh ds' red book and the stoopid hv has only plotted him on the wrong week so the weight gain isn't so small afterall!

Macdoodle - one day younger than my ds
DS can also do a complete 360 on his back!!