August 2007- The one where we miss our plonkable babies! They're licking the pram wheels as we type...

[JamesAndTheGiantBanana]

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Yes we are sick and shit free .

Sorry your pg not going to well knickers i found second much harder as well. Although i put mine down to old age (37yrs) .

Hello. sorry I haven't been around much lately. I had such a horrendous week at work last week. Our managers decided it was a good idea to send two of the supervisors to Malaysia for training and let two go on holiday leaving 3 of us to run the place. I know I'm really stressed when I get a tight chest. I felt like walking out several times. Then on Saturday night dh slept on the sofa and sulked most of Sunday morning. It was all because I'd gone to bed early instead of having an early night with him. He knew how down I was feeling after my horrible week and I had told him repeatedly that my headaches were worse than usual and I was really tired, yet he was asking me all through the day Saturday how my head was and how likely it was that we were going to 'do it'. Then he made a comment that we needed a traffic light system so he didn't have to ask but that we would only need a red bulb!!! Why are men so selfish and insensitive All I wanted to do this weekend was sleep but all he cared about was getting lucky.

Rant over.

Sorry to hear about the illness Lizzie. Glad you're all better now. I always used to give dd milk even when she had a stomach upset. I knew it wasn't good but that's all she wanted. It didn't help that one doctor told me not to give her milk and another doctor said that it was ok. Made the vomit worse to clear up out of the carpet though - yuck!

James - I have the same feeling very frequently about wanting to get away from kids but it's normally by about 6:30am. Is there anyone you can leave James with for the weekend/a night just to get a break? It can be so draining at this stage when they're into everything and you've got to watch them like a hawk. Alex is getting very willful too. He's started throwing himself backwards when he can't get his own way. He's very good when we say no though. He generally stops what he's doing. If he's got something in his mouth that he shouldn't have he takes it out and then his little face screws up and he cries (bless).

Sorry to hear about the spd knickers. My friend suffered from that and her ds1 couldn't understand why mummy couldn't sit on the floor to play with him. He was 3 though.

I've decided that I can't be bothered with having friends' kids at ds's party so I'm just going to invite my sister's 2 kids round and they can play in the garden for a couple of hours while we chat. He won't care anyway and dd will have a good time.

Hope everyone's having a good start to the week. I'm already calmer now one of my colleagues is back from holiday and the other one is back tomorrow.

hi all

i've been popping on every now and again to catch up but haven't had time to post. been really busy at work and dd1 and dd2 are keeping me very busy too!

dd2 never stops, at all, ever, constantly up to something she shoudl not be! she is always up to mischief - getting into the 2 kitchen cupboards that i can't get locks on (because of the way they are shaped and emptying all the cans of beans out, unfortunately she stands up to do this and throws whatever she wants out of her way behind her . or climbing anything and everything, i've got boxes and stuff in front of cupbaords to stop her going into them but somehow she climbs or manages to move them.

her sleep has been a bit off too - though i think that's cause one of her pre-molars is nearly through and is causing her pain.

last nisght was funny - even though it was the 3rd time it was up with her, she fell asleep in my arms and was doing kisses and smiles in her sleep.

lizzie - hope you are better soon. kind of your girls to share

james - even though work is hectic, i like getting a bit of a change of scene from the 2 monsters. leave james with your dp for a few hours one day soon and go out and do somethign you've nto done for ages.

knickers - have you got the elastic belt thing for spd - supposed to help a bit? although lots of women suffer from it, it doesn't seem to be widely known about or help given.

gill - hope things do settle down at work soon. that was really bad planning by the managers!

conker sorry if i've missed it - did you get the house you wanted?

i'm sure i've missed loads of things off....

oh - and what is everyone getting their soon to be 1 year olds for their birthday? i need inspiration.

we got a cd sent from the ELC birthday club with lots of songs on that both dd1 love.

Funny i was talking to mum today about Lexie birthday and i am thinking about getting some ELC Happyland bits this or or this.
As they play for hours with the bit that Lizzie got. Well Lizzie plays Lexie eats .

It's hard because Lizzie got too many toys which Lexie plays with.

Morning. Work is much easier now another of my colleagues is back. She is able to share my workload that no one else knows how to do.

I'm currently waiting for the dcs to get chicken pox. 3 kids at pre-school have it, one of which was actually sent home because one of the teachers found the spots. I expect dh to tell me that he can't possibly take any time off work but he will have to this time. He hasn't taken one day off to look after one of the dcs when they were ill since I went back to work. It's only fair.

Sounds like life is quite hectic for you My2weegirls. Work makes you appreciate your time at home so much more though, I find.

I was thinking of getting ds the Night Garden shape sorter for his birthday. He'll only get one present. It sounds mean but we are so broke at the moment and he won't even know it's his birthday. Lizzie - ds plays with/chews dd's old baby toys and her current toys. His favourites at the moment are her doctor's kit and her plastic play food.

i'm in the same position re toys - dd1 has way too much and dd2 just plays (chews/bites/sucks/throws) with them too. happyland might be a good choice though as she loves playing with them at the childminders

hi not a proper catch up sorry - have read messages but dont have time yet to join in properly.

going to get ds some sort of farmyard with some animals as they seem to be his favourtie thing just now, and think they will last for a few years as my nephew at 3 still plays with one he has.

my2weegirls - still trying to sort out the house - our neighbours still want to buy ours, but the survey had a bit of damp etc so looking to reduce the price which we are not that happy with as they are getting a bargain anyway, and they havent sold, so we wont be able to conclude on the one we want to buy and he may then re-market etc etc - but stressed about the whole thing just now. shouldnt be though cause there is nothing we can do to influence things - they either get a buyer or they dont and if they havent by next week, we will probably put it back on the market until they do sell, or we find another buyer.

sorry long post about not very much but just wanted to get it out. thanks.

Hi all,

Conker, good luck with the house, I hope it all works out and they get a buyer so things can progress for you.

Had a crap day today, Joshua has had a temperature of 38.5 centigrade today so i have been phoning NHS direct and needless to say I am very worried.

He seems reasonably OK, he is responsive, playing, smiling, waving and pointing at everything as usual but he seems very tired.

He napped for 2 and half hours this morning and was whimpering and whinging when he woke up.

NHS said it sounded fine and just to give him calpol but he's never been ill before so I feel a bit useless and scared!

hi violetsmile - the poor wee thing. could it be teething? as long as he's drinking milk and water i'm sure he'll be fine. i find a cool damp cloth on their head/cheeks helps too (though dd2 likes to suck the water out of it if she gets a chance ).

conker - really hope they sell theirs soon, would it be better if you sorted the dampness? would your home insurance cover it so that you can get the higher price? though i presume that it would be even more hassle for you. how's the pick up put down working??

dd2s molar is nearly through - thank goodness! am hoping that we'll get a break before the next few come. her sleeping is still wonky and she's up at least once per night (we used to get the odd night where she'd sleep from 7.15 till 5.30ish but they seem to have disappeared.

i've got a tic in my leg - that keeps twitching and it is driving me mad. had it for 3 days now and it get worse at night and keeps me awake. think cause i keep thinking about it it won't go! arrrgh.

He is definitely teething, I can see another top tooth coming but he's never had a temperature with any of the others

so I don't know if it's related.

I just want him to be better. I am trying to keep calm but where my baby is concerned I always think the worst.

He's gone to bed fine and nhs direct just said to give him lots of fluids and leave him to sleep.

I am watching him on the video monitor and he seems settled but I'm not sure whether I should keep going in to him.

NHS said to leave him to rest and recover as if he wakes he'll want cuddles which will make him hotter.

I guess I'll just see how he sleeps.

If anyone has any advice or tips then I'd be grateful! Thanks

Morning all. I started off the day in a bad mood. I'd left a message on the HV's answer machine yesterday asking them to call me back. I asked if I could arrange to have ds's 1 year check during my holiday in August so I don't have to take any time off work (his birthday is on the last Friday of my hols). The woman told me that his appointment will be on 29th August and there is nothing they can do to change this. I explained that I work full time and I would have to take half a day off work but she wouldn't budge. Then I asked if they could come at 8:30 but she said the first appointment is not til 9:30 and they won't come earlier Ds's assigned HV is normally very accommodating and will come at 8:30. If I don't get to speak to her then I normally have to push the person I speak to to get them to ask her. It's ridiculous. Don't they ever come in to contact with working mothers? I'm going to write my HV a letter to find out if she will help me. I have no issues with ds's development so I feel like telling them f off if they won't help me out.

Sorry about that - had to get it off my chest.

The dcs are at the ILs today. Mum is having laser treatment on her eye. FIL and his partner were only too happy to arrange to have today as their day off (they both work shifts) as they don't see them very often. Ds wasn't too happy about me leaving but I'm sure he was fine after I'd gone. FIL distracted him to try and minimise the screaming.

Conker - hope everything works itself out soon. We're in our first house so I've only had the stress of buying. I can't imaging how stressful it is to sell as well.

Violet - have you tried phoning your doctor for advice? They normally advise me to dose ds or dd up with calpol and calprofen and give plenty of liquids. They may want you to take him in to be checked if he doesn't improve. I don't want to worry you more but I took ds in once and he had a throat infection. The only symptom I knew about was the temperature. They must have improved NHS Direct lately. I gave up phoning them because every single time I phoned the only advice I got was 'if you're worried take them to the doctor/hospital'. Hope he's better soon.

My2weegirls - sorry to hear about the tic. Are you stressed? I sometimes get one in my eyelid if I'm stressed. Hope dd2's sleep improves soon.

hee hee - i was thinking my2weegirls had a tic as in one of those little beasties you get if you walk through long grass etc with shorts on - but I understand now after gills post.

violet - dont have great advice, but try not to worry too much (I know thats easy to say)- you can always go in to check every few hours just to make sure and just be really careful not to wake him. But calpol, sleep and fluids are usually miracle workers.

just realised you posted yesterday - how is he today?

gill - hope you get it sorted with the hv - you are very organised down there - i have no idea if ds is to be seen other than for injections at some point. does seem crazy that they cant move the date at all - presumably there are babies turning 1 all the time, and i wouldnt have thought a week here or there would make much difference.

update on house - got a call to say they wanted to reduce price by £3k so we asked to see the surveys. turns out the work will cost £2k plus VAT so about £2300 in total - we asked why they were looking for £3k off and the solicitor said she thinks her client had just "rounded the figure up". Rounding up from £2300 to £3000 is a bit of a big round up. pretty annoyed as they were obviously just trying it on. will reduce the price by the actual cost cause just want to get out of here asap. having more trouble with our neighbour super glueing our lock again. he is a nutter - we have done absolutely nothing to wind him up recently so no idea why he did it. soooo cant wait to move.

ds is sleeping better - starting to only wake twice a night and not till 3.30 or 4 the first time. dh also settling him that time so i'm getting longer sleeps. its fantastic after 11 months of no longer than 3 hours sleep at a time. only he's been up at 5 the last two days and not persuaded to go back to sleep - think he's doing the being excited at being able to climb stairs etc and wanting to practice instead of sleep.

another long post. oh well. hope you all have good nights.

Evening everyone

I haven't been on this thread since about Aug last year but have often popped in to see how everyone is doing.
I just wanted to say hello as my DD was the first one born from the Aug 2007 thread and she is 1 on Sunday (she was a month early) , so thought I's pop in a again. Seems ages since I was discussing my life in great detail on Mumsnet! My name was different then - jem1969 and it's great to see some recognisable names and see that all your babies are doing well.
Name change worked as now 10 weeks pg with No 2 and slightly worried how will cope but I'm sure we will! Will probably be a couple more weeks until there are any more birthdays but happy birthday to them all when the time comes!

Hi conker - how odd about your neighbour. People can be very strange. That is very cheeky adding £700! Glad you are getting more sleep these days.

Hi quickerthistime. I was thinking about you the other day because I knew your dd's birthday would be coming up soon. Congratulations on your pg. You will be fine. Ds' birthday is on 15th August. Hope your celebration goes well.

I'm sure there was something else I was going to say but I can't remember.

HI Ladies, im still here im always reading but never have anytime anymore to post, every-time try something else happen!
Glad all the LO are doing well, Jem i remember you, Cant belive it will be a year, My LO started cruising on Wednesday for the first time and he did the whole length of my lounge/diner on the outside of his walker since then there has been no stopping him! But No more for us, dh vesctomery result came back and he is Sperm free YAH YAH

Take care everyone x

Congratulations on the pg quickerthistime! Hope your dd has a lovely birthday .

DS temperature came down by the next morning and he has almost recovered. i can tell he's not quite himself though.

He seems clingy and the gradual retreat method I was usuing to get him to sleep has well and truely buggered up .

Hoping it will get better as he feels well again but the last couple of nights he has sobbed as soon as I put him down and stands up til i pick him up again.

He is fine in my arms but doesn't want to be put down at bed time.

Feeling very sad today. Not only has ds been poorly but my dh and I are having a few troubles.

Not even sure what the problem is really cos we don't argue a lot but we don't seem to make eachother happy anymore. We used to be best friends.

I knew things would change when we had a child but we seem to have absolutely nothing in common anymore.

We had a very civil conversation about it earlier and we both ended up in tears.

DH always seems to be at work, he seems to think that I am always criticising him (probably true!)

I told him it was only because he seems to want to sit around the house all day, although he's great with Joshua,

I want to get the hell out of the house and do something as a family on his days off, other than watching bloody Jeremy Kyle!!!

Anyway, we have a lot of talking and a lot of hard decisions to make. Sadly he's at work tonight so as usual I'm left stewing about it while he gets on with his life.

Just needed to talk really. Haven't told anyone and I can't quite believe that we may not spend the rest of our lives together.

Think I'm going to enjoy a large glass of wine then go to bed cos I just want to cry while I'm awake.

Sorry for moaning, just have noone to talk to.

conker - i would really be mad if a big black beastie was sucking on my blood (they are real buggers to remove!). cheeky neighbour trying to add 700 quid! hope it all works out and hope that your other neighbour (i'm assuming it's not the same one that's buying the house) behaves till you go.

hi quicker - congratulations on your pregnancy. hope you are keeping ok and nice to hear about your lo.

pink - feel like we should be sending you a card with congratulations on being sperm free

gill - don't think i'm stressed - though dd1 wound me up a few times today - she's been so good this past week almost the perfect behaved child but today she went off the rails a bit, hit her sister, then me, pulled the stair gate off. she seems to be back to being good this afternoon and fingers crossed she's better tomorrow. anyway, going to whisper this bit

violet - how's the temp today? is he any better?

have a good weekend everyone else.

that should read have a good weekend everyone!

not 'have a good weekend everyone else ' as that sounds like i don't want some people to have a good weekend.

violet - sorry cross posts. i'm really bad at advice when it comes to relationships... i suppose that it's goood that you could sit down and have a conversation about it.. you both obviously realise that something is up rather than just going with the flow. kids do change your lives, DP and i have had 1 night out together in the 3.6 years that dd1 has been with us.

have you set time aside tomorrow to talk some more? is there someone that could look after joshua for a wee while, whilst you do talk?

big hugs

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Thanks my2weegirls, I wasn't expecting people to have to give advice or anything, just nice to know I can rant to someone!

Yes, we are going to talk tomorrow I hope but I dunno if there's much to day really.

We either work at it and try and fix it or we go our separate ways.

The scary thing is that there doesn't seem to be anything to 'fix', it just doesn't seem to work anymore.

As much as we love eachother, we aren't friends anymore . We kind of just live together if that makes sense!

It just happened so gradually. It started by us just taking eachother for granted, then by niggling little comments, then just having nothing nice to say to eachother.

I suppose I expect him to 'entertain' me on his days off but realistically I know he's knackered and it's selfish of me.

Just hard cos I still count down the days til he has time off work, then when he's off, I wonder why.

I seem to hurt him a lot. I had no idea how nast I'd become. Maybe I'm resentful of the fact that dh has so much in his life and all my days are the same!

I wonder if me and Josh would be better off living separately from dh so my expectations of dh when he comes home would be less!

Anyway, apologies if this is a rambling post!

Sorry knickers, x posted.

I feel a cow cos dh does pull his weight with shitty nappies and all the other stuff.

I know what you mean about getting up early though. DH often works nights so obvioulsy I get up with him the next morning but I'm often up half the night with him too!

I always feel like dh should get a lie in on his days off but when the hell do mums get a lie in?!

Have you tried talking to your dp?

It's hard but sometimes talking may help. For us though, it just made us realise quite how unhappy we are making eachother!

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Thank you, you are very kind! By all means, whenever you need to rant, please go ahead!

I almost feel like I should stick up for m dh really, he hasn't done anything wrong.

I expected the sex and passion to decline after a baby but I always thought we'd be best friends.

It's really sad cos we were such close firends before we got together and now I feel like I've lost my best mate.

Don't you just love those conversations when they are drunk and you think you've got everything out in the open, then in the morning they have no recollection of it?!!

Sorry, you're going through something similar.

I really think kids and marriages/ relationships just don't mix well!!